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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post

    You know why this doesn't work? End of the fight, the bad dps still clears the fight. Who handles the crap that the DPS screwed up? That's right, the rest of the party who didn't do badly.

    So who's being punished here? The rest of the party who played well? Why?
    So 4 player / 8 player content isn't completely derailed due to one person. This isn't end game raid here but story progression and expert dungeons - ie stuff you could probably do 2 man. The purpose is to give a bright red sign to the DPS that the are lackluster and should improve. What is the alternative? Th entire group is screwed? That's silly.
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    So 4 player / 8 player content isn't completely derailed due to one person. This isn't end game raid here but story progression and expert dungeons - ie stuff you could probably do 2 man. The purpose is to give a bright red sign to the DPS that the are lackluster and should improve. What is the alternative? Th entire group is screwed? That's silly.
    No, the problem is your suggestion doesn't change anything from how it is now. The players who did well are still being "punished" because of the bad DPS player(s).

    What the ideal should be is that if they fail said personal DPS checks, they themselves pay the price, not the rest of the party. Sadly, this will NEVER happen because the devs want this game to be accessible to anyone as possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    No, the problem is your suggestion doesn't change anything from how it is now. The players who did well are still being "punished" because of the bad DPS player(s).

    What the ideal should be is that if they fail said personal DPS checks, they themselves pay the price, not the rest of the party. Sadly, this will NEVER happen because the devs want this game to be accessible to anyone as possible
    Do you think most people deliberately play badly? I don't. I think many people are completely ignorant of the appropriate way to play their class optimally. My solution addresses this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    Do you think most people deliberately play badly? I don't. I think many people are completely ignorant of the appropriate way to play their class optimally. My solution addresses this.
    You'd be surprised lol...
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    No, the problem is your suggestion doesn't change anything from how it is now. The players who did well are still being "punished" because of the bad DPS player(s).

    What the ideal should be is that if they fail said personal DPS checks, they themselves pay the price, not the rest of the party. Sadly, this will NEVER happen because the devs want this game to be accessible to anyone as possible
    It wouldn't work your way because punishing DPS for failures also affects the entire party. The entire game is set up so that either the whole team does their jobs or everyone suffers.
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