Page 8 of 9 FirstFirst ... 6 7 8 9 LastLast
Results 71 to 80 of 84
  1. #71
    Player Beckett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    1,289
    Character
    Beckard Arseneau
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Casstiele View Post
    I hate it when your literally 20m from being able to do a "sandwich" and someone says either "node not worth it" or "new nodes" they dont understand
    that u can attack for 1min get some kills and retreat or even leave 2-3 ppl behind..
    That would be great, if executed well, but in my experience, the vast majority of the time, this leads one or another GC getting their bloodlust up, and the retreat never happens. Either your GC forgets about the new nodes and continues to attack the sandwiched GC and/or the sandwiched GC gets pissed and hounds your GC as they try to retreat. Either way, the third GC is left to get all the new nodes, uncontested. If leave the two other GCs to fight each other over a dying node, then you're the company that's free to pick up 3-4 of the new set of nodes.
    (3)

  2. #72
    Player
    Blitzace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Limsa
    Posts
    532
    Character
    Blitz Ace
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    The one thing that pisses me off about PVP(Own team)

    People that insist you heal. So what i have a heal job? I queued up as a tank, or a DPS. I healed the last X matches because people were to lazy to step up
    But hey, Lets stop right there, I know for sure you have a heal job to, Why don't you heal yourself as you're the one that is crying we do not have enough healers.

    And ofcourse the people that go GG(Sarcasticly and themself underperform when you look at the SB at the end) And ofcourse, Blaming the RNG for the disaster of this match.

    Always have to blame something or someone, as long as its not themselves.
    (2)

  3. #73
    Player
    Guesswhat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    557
    Character
    Aira Comet
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    And then one of the guys that just died manages to cap the A or S rank nodes that just spawned when everyone else was locked in combat on the other side of the map.

    You usually get more points for having free reign over a majority of the nodes than you gain from the kills, along with not having a vengeance seeking GC after you.
    Thats what I mean about the "backfire" concern. Avoidable by quick sandwich. The problem is tunnelvision. Go in, get a few kills, and get out. Before they start chasing. Even 10-20 secs could be enough. If a GC gets pressured from both sides, chances are high many of them try to escape. But if you overstay your visit they will chase you back. This happens in most flank situation I see as peeps don't know when to leave; the concern is real.

    Sure, if nodes are about to pop/die, wait. Seize is very situation based; acting quick is gold.
    (3)

  4. #74
    Player
    Casstiele's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    8
    Character
    Casstielle Martell
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    its gonna happen anyway
    teams take advantage of sandwiches either capping the non protected nodes or coming up from behind or both or abit of both.
    People will take advantage of it just cus u didnt doesnt mean there not cus u didnt.. happens all the time and i facepalm when other gc do it
    and no killing when coming 3rd place or 2nd AND team is 50pt from win and ur 250pts killing is only thing stopping u from winning
    plus attacking(not all the time) has the benefits of taking pts off, attacking helps put you in advantage rng spreads. Just saying.


    but i understand what people saying that tunnelvision or bloodlust total negates the positives, but it also gives them more expereince
    in attacking.. opening the map is vital to assess, ppl should do it more so they can find advantages to get those more kills instead of chasing that 1 guy wanting a kill
    (0)
    Last edited by Casstiele; 10-30-2015 at 10:14 AM.

  5. #75
    Player
    Casstiele's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    8
    Character
    Casstielle Martell
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    thats a issue, people thinking that a sandwich is a 5minute commitment when really i only want 30secs and only from 1 gcs flank then retreat
    for "their" precious new nodes that coming.. sorry there is a abit of venom in that last bit but why should your call be more important then mine
    and ur reasoning is very very weak


    btw that whole "2 gc attacking alot" and u staying behind is a MYTH, you are either in lead by only a very small margin
    and the other team have been fighting most of the game so how do u compute that plus they have battle experience
    and prolly battle high and fever and there will be situation u get sandwiched anyway and lose the game.


    Im not saying there are not times you dont stay back, or u dont have to actually do sandwich or even just attacks.
    But 30% node and thats the only answer to a rebute call is very weak imo
    (0)
    Last edited by Casstiele; 10-30-2015 at 10:38 AM.

  6. #76
    Player
    Warlyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    3,065
    Character
    Warlyx Arada
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind View Post
    -People who will complain about no heals, AND THEN PROCEED NOT TO HEAL. If you want healers so bad, you fucking do it.
    -Anyone who bitches at the healers for not healing well enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Argh, yes! "Where were the heals?" From the guy whose corpse is on the opposite side of the map from the rest of the team.
    or when u are stuned , sleeped ,silenced attacked by 4 (3 being smn of course) and around there is that guy attacked by a pet asking for heals...omg no heals!!! ???

    or when they chase some1 far from node...LOS the healer (rock /pilar /ect)....and die..."this healers suck" -_-
    (4)

  7. #77
    Player
    Stormrider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    668
    Character
    Storm Rider
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 60
    I almost always heal. But if someone tells someone to heal, I tell them to be quiet or do it themselves. It can be an unenjoyable experience. No one should have to heal pvp if they feel uncomfortable about it. I want to win, but not at the misery of the people I am playing with.

    To the sandwich comments. I am a firm believer that kills can be more important then nodes. But, BUT to many dps stay too long or chase way to far for it to be a pug viable strategy. You also have to expect to see three to four players die after the scrum. General population wants kills not smart play
    (0)

  8. #78
    Player
    xxczx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    444
    Character
    Dark Falz
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    I love it too when people complain about no heals when I play as WHM. 99% of the time it's because you went to far while I was already casting Cure II, just out of target altogether or it was because I intentionally let you die to keep up a battle high/fever because you thought you queued as a tank when you're actually a BLM. Scathepls.
    (2)

  9. #79
    Player
    AzureFlare's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    178
    Character
    Lucille Lifeblossom
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post

    To the sandwich comments. I am a firm believer that kills can be more important then nodes. But, BUT to many dps stay too long or chase way to far for it to be a pug viable strategy. You also have to expect to see three to four players die after the scrum. General population wants kills not smart play
    I honestly don't know why this isn't more popular. Fully commit on aggression like the first two sets to build up Battle High/Fever, back off and then run over anyone coming your way. Arguably the most brain-dead strat you could think of anyway.

    On topic: "Back back back" or any variation of this, followed by "WTF why you still chasing [insert GC here]". No, I'm not chasing. I'm trying to keep the people alive that were on the front because you and nearly every person capable of mass CC fled early to die on the other GC before grouping up.
    (1)

  10. #80
    Player
    GrumbleBeard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    299
    Character
    Severa Nanase
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    I've been flipped out on while solo healing enough times that it makes me consider not ever doing it again. I don't heal in pve, so the only reason I leveled a healer in the first place was to help out my team when we needed one. The complete lack of respect you get from a lot of players is just astounding though. If I have to solo heal, whatever, but know that when I'm being attacked by half a team, it's a little difficult to also keep everyone on the team alive by myself. A little self preservation goes a long way in pvp, but I guess it's easier to just put all of the blame on the person who took on the worst role for the good of the team.
    (3)

Page 8 of 9 FirstFirst ... 6 7 8 9 LastLast

Tags for this Thread