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  1. #31
    Player
    Avatar de Canadane
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    juillet 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    The only reason this would exist is for glamour, as you'd easily outlevel any piece of gear in a levelling dungeon after only a few tries.
    Sure it's nice that you can get your glamour piece after 10 or so runs instead of 20+, but those 20+ attempts end up helping Greenleaf Newplayer with his first time in, keeping the queues healthy and filled.

    You gotta think of the bigger picture as to why you're going back into that dungeon. It's not for that piece of gear, it's because SE wants you in to help new players with maybe a cool piece of gear as your reward for doing so.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  2. #32
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    Avatar de _slowpoke_
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    mai 2015
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    Yayadon Yadon
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Canadane Voir le message
    The only reason this would exist is for glamour, as you'd easily outlevel any piece of gear in a levelling dungeon after only a few tries.
    Sure it's nice that you can get your glamour piece after 10 or so runs instead of 20+, but those 20+ attempts end up helping Greenleaf Newplayer with his first time in, keeping the queues healthy and filled.

    You gotta think of the bigger picture as to why you're going back into that dungeon. It's not for that piece of gear, it's because SE wants you in to help new players with maybe a cool piece of gear as your reward for doing so.
    The existence of the Undersized Party option pretty much voids your entire argument. Plus, the roulettes already exist for that purpose.
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    Citation Envoyé par Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Citation Envoyé par Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

  3. #33
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    Avatar de Etiken
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    Character
    Nissa E'yegha
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Érudit Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par _slowpoke_ Voir le message
    The existence of the Undersized Party option pretty much voids your entire argument. Plus, the roulettes already exist for that purpose.
    Totally agree. It was a nice try but Canadane totally overlooked undersized partys. If SE wantd us to be there for the new guys all the time, they would have done a lot more than implement a feature that helps us avoid them lol.
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    ^.^

  4. #34
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    Avatar de CGMidlander
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    Character
    Height Error
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par AskaRay Voir le message
    I love this

    please implement this ASAP.

    also the NPC has to be called Shady McGee
    And make Shady a Lalafell.
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  5. #35
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    Avatar de Dotsusama
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    juin 2013
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    Character
    Cidriel Tausendklingen
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Colorful Voir le message
    That's arguable, farming an item over and over again and not getting it does ruin my day and this does improve the quality of my in-game life...
    No, you must understand, that is not the "qualify of life" how it is used colloquially in relation to changes to the game. "QoL" is when S-E patched in an NPC to take you from the Idyllshire aetheryte right to Hinterlands, without having to Sprint your way to one of the zone boundaries. It was not strictly necessary, but you have to admit it is convenient for those that need to leave the AFK crowds very quickly.

    A token system is a not a quality of life change.
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  6. #36
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    Avatar de Evanoel
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astromancien Lv 74
    Do want. I agree with OP.
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  7. #37
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    Avatar de _slowpoke_
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    Character
    Yayadon Yadon
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Dotsusama Voir le message
    A token system is a not a quality of life change.
    Token systems - whether in endgame content or otherwise - avoid or lessen burnout. Avoiding burnout is very much a quality of life change.
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    Citation Envoyé par Leveva Heavensreader
    A realm where one must apologize for being a victim is no realm worth living in.
    Citation Envoyé par Hall of Novices, on Healer DPS

  8. #38
    Player
    Avatar de Dotsusama
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    juin 2013
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    Character
    Cidriel Tausendklingen
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par _slowpoke_ Voir le message
    Avoiding burnout is very much a quality of life change.
    I'll agree to leave the "QoL or not QoL" point aside because whether or not it is it just detracts from the main point.

    How will giving the player the gear they want, faster, avoid burnout? They will just find something else that they want. Once they reach the same sort of probability wall, demand they demand THAT content be made easier / given to them sooner, etc, and the cycle begins anew. Given RNG insurance for EX primals. Raids. Desynthesis!

    ...no.

    I have my eye on a particular glamour piece from Brayflox (I still don't have the Cavalry Skirt...) I queue up normal mode and help players that were there as part of roulette, or were leveling. It's not that much faster than running it solo and I'm not the only person to benefit.
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  9. #39
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    Avatar de WinterLuna
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    dcembre 2013
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    Character
    Indira Light
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Astromancien Lv 69
    Citation Envoyé par Dotsusama Voir le message
    In the case of glamour, it means they must have at least one class at 50 or higher. Then they can just run those low level instances, solo or duo, un-synced to farm as much gear as they want, as long as it takes to obtain it. There is no need to implement a new system for this.
    RNG is RNG. You could run it once as a low level and get the drop, or 500 times unsync and not get it. Being level 50 doesn't increase your chance of getting the item nor makes it any easier to obtain when it's a random drop.
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  10. #40
    Player
    Avatar de Dotsusama
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    juin 2013
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    Character
    Cidriel Tausendklingen
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par WinterLuna Voir le message
    Being level 50 doesn't increase your chance of getting the item nor makes it any easier to obtain when it's a random drop.
    Yes it does. Experience, gear (even when sync'd down to the level of the content), the ability to lead players to complete content faster, OR to go in solo and brute force your way through a dungeon in mere minutes...

    The unsynced feature makes it inherently easier to complete low level content. That's the whole point of it. If a player does not use this to acquire glamour equipment, mounts, or just to feel powerful, then that's their choice but there is zero point to an alternative to it when the feature is already here.
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