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    Help with bard

    Hi guys,
    Any guide about how to bard on 3.0?
    or any stuff like that? I'll level up My astrologian to level 60 this week and I want to level up my bard next... but I dunno much of it specially after 3.0
    (ATTENTION : if you have any discouraging comment... keep it to yourself please )
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    Not that I've played BRD yet, post-50 at least. And its not like you need to know much if you only do High and Trial roulette but...

    This is a guide that looks pretty much well made...

    Its from the 3.0 so there are bound to be inconsistencies by now :U
    Good luck!!!
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    wow.. Thank you ^^
    I really enjoyed this bard changes on 3.0
    Warden's can really help your war anytime when he uses beserk and this dancing stances are awesome... I wanna try It out since I used this stance switching a lot on my raiding through the Final Coil of Bahamut.
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    Hrm, but the stance dancing is no longer a thing for BRD it seems O__o?
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    The stance dancing is only necessary if you want to increase your DPS by 2% or such...something so minor that it really isn't worth it ever.
    If you find yourself bored for some reason, then go ahead and stance dance but it's not necessary now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Hrm, but the stance dancing is no longer a thing for BRD it seems O__o?
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    The stance dancing is only necessary if you want to increase your DPS by 2% or such...something so minor that it really isn't worth it ever.
    If you find yourself bored for some reason, then go ahead and stance dance but it's not necessary now.
    2% is totally worthy when you are playing against a friend playing with machinist xD (My friend and I always try to see which one is the best dps while healing and clearing the raid so... )
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    Im just stance dancing in individual situations now... f.e. if you fight a boss with a massiv aoe phase or something like that - most of the time WM should be up imo.
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    I believe stance dancing is worth while when you don't have any gcd and well... Considering how blood letter works you could proc it without WM and therefore have a dps loss there. Though, you'd probably want to ask them BRD guru's for a solid answer to that.
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    Due to River of Blood, it's not really viable to stance dance for a no-oGCD Heavy Shot string in the same way that Machinists might. It's really best to just have WM on 99% of the time. The 1% is comprised of:

    A) Situations where you are going to be losing a substantial (say, more than 1 in 5) amount of GCDs due to either extended movement or single-target enemy deaths. These don't really happen in Alex Savage, but Bis EX wind phase can be an example of the former, and Rav EX butterflies arguably of the latter.

    B) Extremely rare cases where you know exactly when your auto-attacks are happening and have a specific plan to spend ~3.25 or ~6.5 seconds outside of WM because some confluence of factors causes it to be an overall potency gain. It is not recommended for anyone to consider this unless they are very comfortable with the class and have done the math to be certain that it isn't just dumb.
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    Atm i only use Feint in a few conditions.

    * Move more time than a GCD usage or i have an oGCD to use. Sometimes i have the GCD to use, dodge an aoe ground, use feint and i have to wait for GCD reset to shot again. It's weird :/. I prefer don't use Feint and delay my GCD to, once i dodge the aoe, use HS/SS/IJ.

    * I need a fast attack to kill a mob and don't wait for a cast and the tick damage, like Adds in a1S, a3s and a4S. Feint damage is executed instantly instead others abilities which damage take more time.
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