What if FFXIV was part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis?

[Amiaze]

I'm one of the few who enjoyed FFXIII for what it was. I liked the lore behind that particular game.

However, I thought the trilogy itself was a plot-hole ridden mess with a variety of contradicting themes and character worship that made absolutely zero sense. I wouldn't touch FFXIV with a ten-foot pole if it were part of it. As excited as I was for FFXV, I haven't even attempted to play the demo because the "Lightning Saga" left such a bad taste in my mouth, even though I know they aren't as connected as they once were. The mere association makes me cringe.

[saber_alter]

please no...lightning somehow harnessing the power of the operation of parallel worlds is one thing, but i kind of like the story and direction this game is going now.

[Greven]

You are really bored, isn't it? Here's a cookie.

[Atoli]

Urgh. No. 1.0 was bad enough, I don't feel the urge to imagine FFXIV being an utter mess again (and 1.0 actually had proper story and lore in comparison..).

Actually, I don't dislike the FFXIII games or Type-0 or what little we know about FFXV so far, gameplaywise. I'm even somewhat okay with the characters and the direction the story took.
The lore though? I despise it to the core. Nothing about it feels finished, it's more like they created characters and then kiiind of tried to weave a lazy explanation around them to make their story full of plotholes SOMEHOW make sense and all it did was making the already vague and messy lore even more convoluted.

I'm incredibly happy FFXIV is not part of that world (even though something atrocious happened and Lightning is now able to jump into any world she wants to, even Hydaelyn ;_; ), but I would find it funny if someone actually wrote down a scenario on what would be different x)

[TheUltimate3]

To actually answer the question.

Expect the city states (if they continued to exist) to be far more technologically advanced.

The Primals wouldn't exist in the way they do now (existing through prayer and the like). If they did exist as bosses, they'd have to be summoned via some crazy powerful l'Cie as Eidolons.

I'm not sure how the plot would really change, if involving Hydaelyn and Zodiark. As sentient crystals I don't see why they can't still be a plot point.

I do not however think things like the beast tribes, the dragons, or the like would remain though. The Fabula Nova Chrystallis, from what I understand, didn't have that level of fantastic creatures running around. So about half of Heavensward wouldn't work as there would be no sentient dragons to make us realize how much our ancestors sucked.

Job wise, as I think only l'Cie can use magic (And I'm not sure about that due to Type-Zero), all the DoM jobs would either have to be reworked to not use magic (lolwat) or every player is a l'Cie, which would make sense. I don't know how the summons work as a whole, but either every Player gets a summon as a LB or keep the summons exclusive to a summoner job.

Overall, as XIV and the FNC are the only games in recent memory that actually involve crystals as a major plot point, it is an entertaining thought to follow.

[Morningstar1337]

Overall, as XIV and the FNC are the only games in recent memory that actually involve crystals as a major plot point, it is an entertaining thought to follow.

That;s because XIV is meant to Incorporated past elements of the previous Final Fantasies, and crystals were a plot point int the first few games ina ddition to the gaem you already mention (which is also why Bravely Default had crystals as a plot point)

to add, only 3 games are actually directly connected, type-0 was only connected because of sharing the lore and XV, as Enkidoh stated, has been exercized of anything connecting it to the FNC lore.

That remidns me, was Toriyama demoted over the recepetion of the games, they didn't bomb unlike say...Spirits Within so I don't think he'd be fired, they they ARE polarisizng so I expected that he did get punished somehow.

[TheUltimate3]

That;s because XIV is meant to Incorporated past elements of the previous Final Fantasies, and crystals were a plot point int the first few games ina ddition to the gaem you already mention (which is also why Bravely Default had crystals as a plot point)

I'm aware of this. I was going to include Bravely Default, but as it is not actually a Final Fantasy game, I elected to ignore it.

I think you're the only one who actually decided to answer the question rather than complain about XIII

It's an interesting question in my opinion. Story aside, the world and the themes around the FNC I find quite interesting.

[Averax]

To actually answer the question.

Expect the city states (if they continued to exist) to be far more technologically advanced.

The Primals wouldn't exist in the way they do now (existing through prayer and the like). If they did exist as bosses, they'd have to be summoned via some crazy powerful l'Cie as Eidolons.
I'm not sure how the plot would really change, if involving Hydaelyn and Zodiark. As sentient crystals I don't see why they can't still be a plot point.

I do not however think things like the beast tribes, the dragons, or the like would remain though. The Fabula Nova Chrystallis, from what I understand, didn't have that level of fantastic creatures running around. So about half of Heavensward wouldn't work as there would be no sentient dragons to make us realize how much our ancestors sucked.

Job wise, as I think only l'Cie can use magic (And I'm not sure about that due to Type-Zero), all the DoM jobs would either have to be reworked to not use magic (lolwat) or every player is a l'Cie, which would make sense. I don't know how the summons work as a whole, but either every Player gets a summon as a LB or keep the summons exclusive to a summoner job.

Overall, as XIV and the FNC are the only games in recent memory that actually involve crystals as a major plot point, it is an entertaining thought to follow.

I think you're the only one who actually decided to answer the question rather than complain about XIII

[Atoli]

I think you're the only one who actually decided to answer the question rather than complain about XIII

I think you need a solid knowledge of the lore of both games to draw comparisons and I don't think many people are that familiar with the lore of a series of games they disliked and probably dropped after the first one.

[Felis]

Overall, as XIV and the FNC are the only games in recent memory that actually involve crystals as a major plot point, it is an entertaining thought to follow.

And so, the dark knight Cecil was stripped of his command as the captain of the Red Wings. He and the master dragoon Kain head toward the dark valley for the village of Mist. The advent of the airship marked the realization of Baron's dreams, but also the birth of its militarism. With its Royal Air Force Red Wings, Baron soon reigned supreme. Now, as monsters multiply and stir unrest, Baron only exploits its power to collect the world's Crystals. Why? The Crystals silently shed their light...