THM or CON

[Vahzl]

All conj attack magic is doing more than all THM attack magic. Shadowsear is laughable, while ancient magic does in the 1000's aoe

So what you meant in your original post is:

"I am first opening a thread to ask people a nice simple question, and having my own opinion and formed my own conclusions on this before even opening the thread, I am now going to harp on about how THM sucks".

[PikachuLink]

i have both to 50, if you want to do damage go thm (their almost not healers anymore ) if you wanna heal go conjurer.....now if you want the most useful moves first and to have use as mage in party at 50 faster go with cnj first.

[PikachuLink]

All conj attack magic is doing more than all THM attack magic. Shadowsear is laughable, while ancient magic does in the 1000's aoe

AM isnt aoe anymore. shadowsear rawks even more so with chainspell and the AM has like a 90 sec cast time. DMG Thm>cnj Heals cnj>thm. thread closed pick if you wanna heal or damage easy choices are easy

[Reika]

AM isnt aoe anymore. shadowsear rawks even more so with chainspell and the AM has like a 90 sec cast time. DMG Thm>cnj Heals cnj>thm. thread closed pick if you wanna heal or damage easy choices are easy

No, AM is aoe. I watched it being cast duoing with a 50 con.

And I didn't start this post to say THM is gimped, I was only answering a question.

I guess I should ask those who have both L50 in THM and CON if they actually played and experimented with both classes after 1.19, or at least payed attention in combat to other L50 THM and CON.

[viion]

AM isnt aoe anymore. shadowsear rawks even more so with chainspell and the AM has like a 90 sec cast time. DMG Thm>cnj Heals cnj>thm. thread closed pick if you wanna heal or damage easy choices are easy

AM is AOE, but it only AOE's on "Links"

[Roll]

But... the patch notes for Ancient Magic says...
"・Now affects a single target.
・Recast time raised from 10 to 90 seconds.
* These six actions share a recast timer."

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tch-1.19-Notes

[DeadRiser]

I use ancient magic all the time, it's an AOE.

The effecting a single target probably means that it will move with them, and not just explode on the spot they you initially cast it on. It attacks links and non links as well.

Even though I don't have THM to 50, I still prefer CNJ for their nukes. The AM is amazing now, and makes me want to be a black mage when roles come out

[Jinrya-Geki]

I hate both, cause neither of them can do damage when it counts, at the moment.