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  1. #9521
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    If you think Sharpcast disappearing is bad, try having Enochian eaten. Yes, it has happened to me more than once. Yes, it has made me contemplate the reasons behind homicide.
    Casters, BLM's especially, have some weird glitches that inconvenience them places. The server devouring buffs is one thing, but I'm pretty sure casting Blizzard IV and an Umbral/Astral granting spell on Invincible mobs will have those buffs disappear (for no reason at all).
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    Last edited by Nestama; 05-19-2017 at 06:41 PM.

  2. #9522
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    If you think Sharpcast disappearing is bad, try having Enochian eaten. Yes, it has happened to me more than once. Yes, it has made me contemplate the reasons behind homicide.
    I've never had either of those happen and I've played with pings ranging from 45-175 depending on the time frame. Is it more related to packet loss, maybe?

    The only annoyance I've ever had is Swiftcast sometimes not registering in time for the spell I use immediately after it. I don't lose the swiftcast though, it just gets applied to the next spell. It's more like Bio/Bane situation than what is being described here.
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  3. #9523
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Casters, BLM's especially, have some weird glitches that inconvenience them places. The server devouring buffs is one thing, but I'm pretty sure casting Blizzard IV and an Umbral/Astral granting spell on Invincible mobs will have those buffs disappear (for no reason at all).
    I don't think that's a glitch, though. When you cast a spell with opposite-element stacks on (e. g: casting Blizzard with AF stacks), it automatically takes away those stacks. The level 3 spells then grant 3 stacks of their own element, but I think that only happens if they actually hit the boss.

    What happened on your picture looks like the result of a discrepancy between the information your computer and the server has. Your computer knew the spell was interrupted, but the server apparently didn't get the message and deleted your AF stacks.
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  4. #9524
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    Naw, what happened was I Swiftcast Blizzard III on the door you go into during the Diabolos (don't ask. I don't know why I did it either) and because it's invincible, it removed my Astral buff. It happens on Hrasvelgr (when he's about to charge) and some other invincible mobs I can't remember (tree boss in Void Ark might do it). The Swiftcast was originally going to be for Blizzard IV, but the doors you can kill died before my Blizzard III could finish casting and with Enochian so low, I decided to just spend my Swiftcast on a pity Blizzard III... but I used it on the middle door like a numpty and that's how I lost my Astral buff.

    I hate this buff so much.
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  6. #9525
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    So. After nearly 20 runs of A12N (kill me now pls) I finally got my fourth shaft and gave my DRG the prototype body. I ran 60 roulette on her last night to try and get the hang of a 60 rotation (yeah, still working on that), and got an AST who, bless their heart, kept giving me Arrows.

    I already have WAY too much skill speed on my DRG because every piece I've managed to scrape together is riddled with it. So add an arrow to my already way too short GCD, and I'm just watching my TP go down like this: ;________;
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  7. #9526
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    So. After nearly 20 runs of A12N (kill me now pls) I finally got my fourth shaft and gave my DRG the prototype body. I ran 60 roulette on her last night to try and get the hang of a 60 rotation (yeah, still working on that), and got an AST who, bless their heart, kept giving me Arrows.

    I already have WAY too much skill speed on my DRG because every piece I've managed to scrape together is riddled with it. So add an arrow to my already way too short GCD, and I'm just watching my TP go down like this: ;________;
    Sometimes that's just the way the cards roll. It's always better to use a card then to just right-click it away or overwrite a royal road. That, and there isn't a single fight in a 60 roulette that lasts long enough to run out TP using a single target rotation even when hasted. Unless DPS is bad enough that the fight drags on longer than it should, of course.
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  8. #9527
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    If you think Sharpcast disappearing is bad, try having Enochian eaten. Yes, it has happened to me more than once. Yes, it has made me contemplate the reasons behind homicide.
    Yeah this is pretty bad when you are doing Savage as a healer and you are in A12S during adds Holy spam and you use Lightspeed and it goes on cooldown but you don't get the buff and watch 3 DPS die as you struggle to cast AoE heals ><

    I was so mad lol

    I've also had Enochian not work too lol outside of raiding though.
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  9. #9528
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Sometimes that's just the way the cards roll. It's always better to use a card then to just right-click it away or overwrite a royal road. That, and there isn't a single fight in a 60 roulette that lasts long enough to run out TP using a single target rotation even when hasted. Unless DPS is bad enough that the fight drags on longer than it should, of course.
    Well we had a BLM as the other DPS. And they got all the Balances. I just got Arrows. :/ BLM would benefit more from an Arrow than a DRG. And everyone can benefit from a Balance, which is why I try to either expand them or at least rotate them among DPS, unless the DPS is just awful that a Balance would be a waste. That being said, I was still top DPS even without any Balances and just Arrows in that roulette. According to my crystal ball.

    It's like when I'm on Bard and usually get Ewers. Or worse, Spears. Share the Balances. And even if I continuously draw Arrows, I try not to just feed them to melee, since I don't want to listen to them gripe about TP issues later. Some times it's good to always give your highest DPS the best cards. But other times it's also nice to share them. Especially if DPS are equally skilled. Because it's not like that BLM was god awful.

    (Addition. Because my queue popped and I didn't finish my post):

    For comparison, my BRD has 820 Skill Speed. That is a speed I'm very comfortable with on BRD. Recommended Skill Speed for DRG is 650 maximum. I currently have more SkSp on my DRG than BRD, because I have filler pieces to get me into Dun Scaith to get the pieces I want (and to not have so much SkSp). Looking at DRG's abilities, they're pretty TP heavy for some--Phelbotimize costs 90 TP, Heavy Thrust 70, Impulse Drive 70, etc.. That's not counting AOE, which if I get a Ring of Thorns proc combo'd off of Heavy Thrust, I try to use that against 3+ mobs. Take into account my ridiculously high skill speed, TP can drain pretty fast. Especially on large trash pulls. Sure, I have Invigorate, but it has a cooldown timer. :/

    I wouldn't have cared too much if it wasn't every single Arrow they drew. And when they did draw Balances (which really wasn't that rare), they were fed to the BLM. Just wish more ASTs were mindful of how melee can and will have TP issues, especially when they try to contribute to AOE rather than just single target trash packs of 5+ mobs, when giving out Arrows (and Time Dilating them). I try to be mindful of it myself.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 05-20-2017 at 02:42 AM.

  10. #9529
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  11. #9530
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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkaN View Post
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    nq on top of it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Farming Dun Scaith for DRG pieces since I got her to 60 this morning. She's 5 ilvls short of making it in there, so I'm running on AST and hoping people will be nice and pass on the pieces I want. ;_;

    Anyways, last run, MT kept dying; not sure if from no heals or no cooldowns, since they weren't out alliance's tank. Our tank stepped up. And god, I wish they hadn't. They tried, but they only had 5,000 more health than me (they were a DRK), a Padjali weapon, and a 215 body piece. One hit from Diabolos Hollow took out 80% of their health. Not even a crit Essential could have saved them.

    While Diabolos was doing his Double Edge towards the end, none of the tanks had him so he was just running around smacking people. A bard from another alliance got marked, and ran to me while I was trying to heal my co-healer. That attack hit me for 70k. WITH A CRIT SHIELD AND A BOLE ON ME. I squeaked a little there. That is over three times my health pool.

    And worst yet, not a single DRG piece dropped. ;_;
    I'm only after the head piece, body, and legs. D:


    EDIT: Well, just got out of my seventh Dun run today (I obviously hate myself). My co-healer was great; just they kept having disconnecting issues. ;_; Their husband was in our group too, and during Hollow, both dc'd, so I was doing everything I could to keep everyone up. Entire alliance was ranged except for the tank, who REALLY wanted to MT. The entire run the tanks were arguing with each other in alliance chat about who was MT and who wasn't. It was getting very annoying.

    The tanks were as follows: DRK / DRK / WAR. Our tank was a DRK. For the first Diabolos Hollow pull, the second DRK was MT. Well, they decided to also eat the tank meteor. Twice. While also tanking Diabolos. No one went into the center door, so the Dahak showed up outside. I'm trying to keep people alive, since my co-healer was dc-ing again, and the Dahak comes after me, since my HoTs triggered it. Second DRK is complaining about MT having to eat the tank meteor, and I know that our tank was too busy fighting with the other two over who got to tank Diabolos. The WAR was also fighting, so not eating tank meteor. At one point, our tank was dead. I raised him, and he never accepted it. When the second DRK started complaining about the tank meteor for the third time, I flat-out said "Our tank was dead, and wouldn't accept my raise."

    Second pull, we managed to kill him, but it was messy. Co-healer and her husband both disconnected, and kept coming back. We eventually got LB3, which they used. But shortly after, everyone was dead again. At the end, the DRG body piece dropped. Now, I'd asked in the beginning if I could have that piece if it dropped, and people said they didn't have an issue with it. Well, the BLM that I raised more than I should have been raising (they died close to 10 times throughout the raid), rolled against me for it, and, of course, won.

    I just... I am just so tired now. ;_;
    I really wish I was at ilvl to go in on DRG myself; one Diabolic piece would probably put me right at 235. Guess I'll have to just try and get tokens from Creator Normal for placeholder gear... just sucks that we can't turn them in for GC seals yet when we're done, and I already have so many other Creator Normal pieces clogging up my retainers. ;_;

    (No, I can't get any lore gear at the moment since I spent all my lore on umbrite for my next anima... I really wanted to do the PLD one. ;_; )
    I know it is late cuz of post limits but I wanted let you know, encase this is an issue for other jobs, just pvp a bit and use the wolf marks to fill in the gaps (full i235 gear) pretty meet any causal ilevel entry with it. You also do get script and lore as well. 3-6 runs is not to bad for a 235 weapon, and lower cost for right, hands, etc.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 05-20-2017 at 02:21 AM.

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