Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Dzian]

One of the DPS recruited the tank ( so they knew each other in some way, remember how I said i entered there without a tank as well?), also auto siding with the tank because good tank = hold hate, no one cares about the healer point of view along with not caring about the belittling I got over my healing. I can't use embrace when I had to dissipation because of the lack of CDs and taking too much damage. (during the downtime moments anyway, the person was not stance dancing, just full time Deliverance. A good tank that is attempting that should know when to put Defiance back on, not give middle finger to your healer when things are going bad, you keep it on because healers can heal anything) If you want to point the fingers at me well next 2 experts I got went fine, it is not me. (I was doing expert for Monday and Tuesday dailies under this week's reset) He wants to claim there was never embrace used because he took too much damage????

In my opinion using Dissipation was your biggest mistake.
It's literally never worth using. The 20% boost to your heals is terrible. Firstly it doesn't impact Lustrate or Indomnibiity. And secondly getting a 20% buff on Psykick isn't worth losing the potency of Embrace for.

If your Psykicks hit for ~5k on average then under Dissipation they'd hit for ~6k. Which is pretty lame compared to a 5k Psykick and 3k Embrace from your fairy..

Theres also the almost 2,000 MP cost of getting your fairy back once Dissipation wears off

You'd probably have been better off using Emergency Tactics with Adlo. For the extra heal boosts.

From a healing perspective Dissipation is pretty much never worth it.

[Mhaeric]

In my opinion using Dissipation was your biggest mistake.
It's literally never worth using. The 20% boost to your heals is terrible. Firstly it doesn't impact Lustrate or Indomnibiity. And secondly getting a 20% buff on Psykick isn't worth losing the potency of Embrace for.

If your Psykicks hit for ~5k on average then under Dissipation they'd hit for ~6k. Which is pretty lame compared to a 5k Psykick and 3k Embrace from your fairy..

Theres also the almost 2,000 MP cost of getting your fairy back once Dissipation wears off

You'd probably have been better off using Emergency Tactics with Adlo. For the extra heal boosts.

From a healing perspective Dissipation is pretty much never worth it.

The main benefit of Dissipation is the aetherflow stacks, not the healing bonus. You do get three additional Lustrates from it, so it is useful as a clutch tool if you're out of aetherflow stacks and your tank is about to die and you just need to get through the next 10 seconds. The healing bonus is there so that you don't entirely cripple your healing potential due to the loss of the fairy.

That said, the number of times I've actually needed to use it can be counted on one finger, so I agree it could definitely use some improvement to give it a more more consistent functionality.

P.S. Im pretty sure it does affect Lustrate and Indomitibilty, since they're potency based heals. Lustrate used to be percent based, but they nerfed that to be potency healing because SCH could use it during Cleric Stance at full potency.

[ErryK]

P.S. Im pretty sure it does affect Lustrate and Indomitibilty, since they're potency based heals. Lustrate used to be percent based, but they nerfed that to be potency healing because SCH could use it during Cleric Stance at full potency.

Dissipation's 20% buff only applies to spell-based healing, so it only affects Physick, Adloquium, and Succor.

[Mhaeric]

Dissipation's 20% buff only applies to spell-based healing, so it only affects Physick, Adloquium, and Succor.

Well that's stupid. And the tool-tip is inaccurate then since it says it's a 20% boost to "potency-based healing" which both Lustrate and Indomitibility are. Not that I don't believe you, but going to test to be sure, since it really SHOULD be that way if it isn't.

Edit: Blech... looks like they changed to tooltip from "potency-based healing" to "healing magic potency" at some point.

[Lilseph]

The main benefit of Dissipation is the aetherflow stacks, not the healing bonus. You do get three additional Lustrates from it, so it is useful as a clutch tool if you're out of aetherflow stacks and your tank is about to die and you just need to get through the next 10 seconds. The healing bonus is there so that you don't entirely cripple your healing potential due to the loss of the fairy.

That said, the number of times I've actually needed to use it can be counted on one finger, so I agree it could definitely use some improvement to give it a more more consistent functionality.

P.S. Im pretty sure it does affect Lustrate and Indomitibilty, since they're potency based heals. Lustrate used to be percent based, but they nerfed that to be potency healing because SCH could use it during Cleric Stance at full potency.

Based on what I tested, it doesn't. The description says "increase healing magic potency", so I'm guessing it only applies to spell-like abilities. Both Lustrate and Indomitability are just abilities, not spells.

However I have used Dissipation a lot on pulls before boss fights. Why? So I have to wait 30 seconds instead of 1 minute to get 6 stacks of Aetherflow for my DPS opener (Initial 3+renovation). I can re-summon the fairy a couple of seconds before the boss fight. On rare ocassions when I need to spam heals on the tank, I have used it again... SCH struggle with DRK's Living Dead. sometimes the 3 Lustrates should suffice, but sometimes it doesn't -.- So rip fairy.

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So, speaking of which, this morning I was on my alt and decided to heal level 60 roulette and leveling roulette. I don't know if it's a DRK thing or not, but they seem to either be allergic to darkside or they really don't know how to play the class at all, just using it for the edginess. I mainly play SCH for roulettes because I'm tired of healers that won't DPS at all, so this way I can force the runs to go faster but this morning...

For level 60, I get Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) and they tank starts doing small pulls. So, I notice we have a BRD and a SMN, and I'm very confident about my healing skills. With that being said, I politely ask the tank if he can pull more so he starts doing so. What was the problem? Well, this tank in particular had a huuuuge issue with his MP management, so he didn't have enough MP to unleash the trash mobs. The mobs were scattered around, attacking both the DPS and me alike, I even got the "slow" debuff crippling my healing speed. I was unable to remove it because people were taking lots of damage, I kinda panicked there. The tank also didn't use any cd at all (Your daily DF tank) so we wipe.

The tank calls me out "Were you saying? Why am I dead?". I'm very patient, rarely call people out in dungeons, I mostly judge them in silence until I complete the duty then commendate accordingly or not commendate at all. However, this guy got on my nerves and had to tell him that he had a very bad MP management, he should use cooldowns because the tanks clearly have them for a reason and he should learn how to stack trash mobs. He only replies "K", and the run continues. Small pulls from there. At the end of the run, I got 2 player comms. -.-

For Leveling Roulette, I get... omg, I've been getting this a lot lately... I got Dusk Vigil. I'm on SCH, I summon Selene and I get a DRK again. The DPS were a MNK and a MCH. This DRK... Yes, she was allergic to darkside, crippling their mitigation capabilities. I ask why she wasn't using it, but I get no response at all. So, this tank in particular starts doing big pulls. The ONLY cd she used was Shadowskin and Darkdance, NOTHING ELSE, and they also were poorly used. Darkdance on the ice sprites, for example. Good luck mitigating their magic damage with your parry. The first wipe was in the room after the mammoth boss. The tank decided to mass pull everything until she reached the locked door. Things were NOT dying! (Actually, they were but extremely slowly), I run out of MP, because she wasn't using cds and not getting positioned correctly (Showing the mobs her back, disabling their passive parry completely). She was taking soooo much damage. Welp, we died.

Again, I call the tank out about doing big pulls, they are not worth it, we don't have the DPS for it as it was obviously proven. The tank ignores me and she keeps pulling more and more. So I summon Eos to get some healing carry and DPS whenever I was able to because man, this tank was taking THE damage. Granted, everything hits really hard in this dungeon, but the tank made it way harder with their poor performance. No commendations at the end.

[Aosha]

So, speaking of which, this morning I was on my alt and decided to heal level 60 roulette and leveling roulette. I don't know if it's a DRK thing or not, but they seem to either be allergic to darkside or they really don't know how to play the class at all, just using it for the edginess. I mainly play SCH for roulettes because I'm tired of healers that won't DPS at all, so this way I can force the runs to go faster but this morning...

I know what you mean when it comes to the no-Darkside Dark Knights. It was especially bad back in the day when Foreverreap was relevant. Every second DRK I met, in EX or otherwise, either could not keep up DS due to MP management, or didn't even try. Try to offer help or ask why they don't use it: instant hostility. It's gotten a lot better since, but there's still the odd edgelord here and there...
I mean come on, I'm a sucky DRK, it's easily one of my worst jobs, but even I can keep up DS during pulls, maybe needing a short break between two if I messed up real bad. If one chooses to main a job they should at least try to learn the basics.

[ArikDimas]

A story from a run of PotD floors 51-60 late 2 nights ago. Party consisted of I think it was monk(me), a warrior, a lancer, and an arcanist. Not much conversation but on one floor both the lancer and arcanist run into the next room to grab a silver chest, the arcanist gets low on health on a mob they fault, and then they both run to the silver chest to open it and it was a bomb so the arcanist dies. Upon reviving the arcanist, they slap the lancer, on the next floor the lancer slaps the arcanist, than the arcanist gets mad at the lancer and calls them out blaming the lancer for causing him to die, they have a little back and forth with each other and the arcanist tried to kick the lancer twice, both failed so I initiated a kick on the arcanist which passed, told the lancer and we went on our way through the dungeon and got a healer to join in at floor 60.

[Anarnee]

Just did leveling Roulette with my SCH alt.

...I got AURUM VALE.

With a newbie tank PLD (First time), and a newbie BRD (Not first time but had a sprout) and a MNK.

The tank clumsily pulls the whole first room, steps in yellow a bit, but its super chill. Even I accidentally pull some mobs. >>;

No panic. DPS do their job, Tank does their job (They were a pretty Femroe btw ♥)

I give some small tip before each boss fight.

No deaths in any fights, no trouble, period.

It was beautiful.

[Natsuno]

Speed runners in PotD taking it to a whole new level.

Three of them sitting on a Cairn of Passage... that wasn't even activated yet.

Just for context, there were mobs that they could of been killing in the next room. I came in from clearing out the other direction, solo.

Tbf, one of them moved into action a few seconds after I stood there and said "wow, really", but that was still two people short of acceptable. So I started to dance. Then they moved.

Too little, too late. I just had to bail right there and then as it was only the second floor into the section and I didn't like the thought of having to supervise them the entire run to make sure they were helping to kill at least the bare minimum to active the cairn of passage. I'll take a 30 min penalty over boosting such blatantly lazy people.

[Mysterysword]

Let's compare and contrast, shall we? Two Leveling Roulettes I ran, both as DRK.

1. Dzemael Darkhold, with a newbie SMN. Party stops to let me explain mechanics to the newbie, doesn't pull mobs or bosses after I ask them not to, and newbie actually listens to my advice and follows basic instructions correctly.

2. Sastasha, with both newbie DPS. LNC keeps pulling mobs and bosses even after I ask them to wait for me to explain mechanics, refuses to listen to any of my advice, can't be bothered to wait for simple explanations, and refuses to communicate at all.

See, runs like the second one are what make people want to leave. When newbies refuse to listen, and actively work to make your job more difficult. When you're in that position, at some point, you realise that you're just carrying someone who's going to go on to other dungeons and parties to make even more people miserable. And that's when you start feeling like the vote dismiss is an excellent function. People who play this game only to make others angry, don't deserve to progess further.