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  1. #7991
    Player
    Vele's Avatar
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    Vele Aeolus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Same thing happened to me but we had a War myself as drk, Sch healer, rest DPS, the healer would DPS which is great and all but she let just Eos heal which isn't that effective lol.
    It is very possible to have Eos solo heal a1s, because I had joined a farm once where the party leader (an ast) put a 2nd healer spot just so they can make that other healer do all the work... I used Selene at first not knowing this, a poor bard got nuked by the prey and the ast reproached them for "not paying attention" instead of going out of cleric for one second to use ED or something. In fact, I'm sure an ED in cleric would have saved them anyways.

    I switched to Eos after that and with well planned CD usage (and ACTUALLY PLACING HER NEAR THE TANK which I don't see 90% of scholars do) she can heal a1s all by herself. The dps has to be good though, in later farms I joined that had poor dps, the adds would kill Eos before Faust died, even with adlos and sustains.

    On the topic of a1s light farming, I joined a farm on my blm a couple days ago and had one of the other blms in the party get really salty about me not using ley lines on Faust, saying I was "letting it go to waste" and "making the run slower" even though I was still top dps on Faust and Oppressor. Faust is such a short fight that I prefer saving ley lines for my full opener on the actual boss. But it was amusing watching this blm get all-caps angry about it, especially as I watched them consistently drop their second ley lines right before resin bomb (and immediately abandon them as a consequence) and also stand around for ~10 seconds waiting for buffs to come back up before they started attacking (which is even more of a dps loss than "wasting buffs").
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  2. #7992
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vele View Post
    It is very possible to have Eos solo heal a1s,I switched to Eos after that and with well planned CD usage (and ACTUALLY PLACING HER NEAR THE TANK which I don't see 90% of scholars do) she can heal a1s all by herself. The dps has to be good though, in later farms I joined that had poor dps, the adds would kill Eos before Faust died, even with adlos and sustains. .
    And you're so right about that good schs will put Eos near the boss this sch just depended on Embrace not Whispering Dawn or Fey, which lead to many people's deaths including my own. Also the person talking about your ley lines is crazy, DPS is laughable on Faust and you wanna get the most out of it since you, as a blm don't want to move and you don't have to in A1S unless a Resin drops on you. I don't know why there's so many angry people in A1S lately I get that there's light windows but 40 seconds- 1 minute isn't the end of the world.
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  3. #7993
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    I don't know. We have 3 tank slots, 6 healers slots and 15 DPS slots. If anything, queues for tanks shouldn't be faster than DPS' queues. Depends on the datacenter, but speaking in general.
    That theory is nice, but in practice it is not the case at all. The distribution of jobs in 24 man content does result in some differences from 4 man content queues such as longer queue times for the ones who usually have the shortest queue times due to the sheer number of people required and relatively shorter queue times in comparison for those with the longer queue times due to the larger share of party real estate, but it's still the same order of length. I.e. Tanks have the upper hand with queue times, healers are usually pretty fast, and dps have the longest ones on average. It's especially noticeable when going in as a group since groups with only DPS have long queue times, but add a tank or even a healer and it's dramatically reduced.
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  4. #7994
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    lvlagmarink's Avatar
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    Magmarink Dragregory
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Joined a clear party on AST yesterday and I left after a few pulls when the MT stayed south after the demon claw mechanic (which was done correctly, kudos), and I took a couple cleaves and died. It wasn't the first time the MT had some positioning issues, so I said something. I was basically told "no, I don't move, YOU move," and when I mentioned other groups do it that way too, the response was basically "you're the only one who had an issue." So I said if we're going to argue about it, good night, and left the instance.
    I don't get this, how does it matter if the tank just stay facing it south or facing it north.. that is to say, the MT got knockbacked by the demon claw from north to south like in most cases do and kept facing zurvan to south.. In my opinion tho, it barely matters at all because unless you expect 2nd soar in 2nd phase with zurvan being off centered, which shows the party have awful dps..
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  5. #7995
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by lvlagmarink View Post
    I don't get this, how does it matter if the tank just stay facing it south or facing it north.. that is to say, the MT got knockbacked by the demon claw from north to south like in most cases do and kept facing zurvan to south.
    Apparently I've been spoiled by a considerate MT who takes care to keep the boss positioned facing north as much as possible so the whole party knows what to expect? And does this during demon's claw as well?

    It's whatever. Joined a different clear party to help out last night and they knocked it out in half an hour. It's great to see people mastering the mechanics. Three people got their achievement.
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  6. #7996
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    Cylestea's Avatar
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    Luna Shadowmoon
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Apparently I've been spoiled by a considerate MT who takes care to keep the boss positioned facing north as much as possible so the whole party knows what to expect? And does this during demon's claw as well?

    It's whatever. Joined a different clear party to help out last night and they knocked it out in half an hour. It's great to see people mastering the mechanics. Three people got their achievement.
    some people take him north others tank him south. as long as its not facing you or the party its really not an issue
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  7. #7997
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestea View Post
    some people take him north others tank him south. as long as its not facing you or the party its really not an issue
    I don't think you saw my original post. It was an issue. They didn't say what they'd be doing. And they did cleave people. And I left. And they made a snide remark about me expecting a carry which was a hilariously dumb assumption.
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  8. #7998
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    Texa's Avatar
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    Texa Yuu
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 70
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  9. #7999
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    lvlagmarink's Avatar
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    Magmarink Dragregory
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Gotta love all of those fancy descriptions on pf.. I've encountered myself something like "please do sub-par damage, we dont want to give carry" and "leviathan bird farm, bring high dps" in the limitless blue extreme, "zurvan kill party 20% are fc members"..
    The last description seems to bug me the most as 20% of 8 is 1.6.. So someone is 0.6 fc member..

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    I queued myself Urth's Fount synched trying to get my khloe sticker and stumbled upon bunch of newcomers, the tank asked "what's the deal here?" Much to the whm"s dismay that the tank didn't watch a guide prior to joining. I explained that the tank just need to deal damage and dodge but the whm kept throwing taunt on why the tank should watch a guide. When the tank died because the whm was dispelling bleedings from einhejar from every party members, the whm didn't bother to raise the tank at all.. it just feels like they spite each other on that run.
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  10. #8000
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Recently I Find myself becoming more and more "THAT PLAYER" that just ups and bails after a couple of wipes....

    Joined a Seph Ex clear with someone in my ls to help them out. Amoung other instructions I told players to stack in "B" to bait the pillars. Had half the party in "B" a couple just outside "B" and a couple more a few inches out from "B". Then the pillars killed half the party and the other half got knocked off cos they saw where the pillars were gonna be and tried to adjust.

    Second run I said stack in "B" means IN "B". Not near "B" not around "B" but IN "B". I was told to stop being a jerk and pull. Started the second attempt exact same thing happens. I said sod this if you can't even stack properly when needed there's no hope you'll be able to clear. Apologised to my friend in ls and bailed. Friend said in ls they were throwing some right flak about me soon as I left. I Just lolled.

    Then I joined a Zurvan clear help some other people in the same ls.

    First run 3 people died to the red circles so I said everyone needs to stand on the right hand edge. Not the middle not the left but the right edge to bait those red circles as much as possible. Second run starts same thing happens again. So I pressed up to bring up my last instructions and this time put some se.# noises in there. People say "yeah we know" Third attempt same thing again... even the tank died cos all the red circles were overlapping on the left side of the arena and he couldn't run through them in time

    Made some remark about how if you can't even do something as simple as stand on one side you got no chance of doing the rest of the stuff and this was a clear party, not learning and once again I bailed... apaologised again to people in ls.

    Then joined a Zurvan ex FARM party... exact same thing with the red circles and ppl not stacking but we made it down. Even survived the soar. Biting halbeard came up. And then people spread out all over covered half the arena in ice from southern cross yeah that's a wipe.

    Second attempt made it through the adds and tyre fang. Leader said stack in "B" for southern cross. And like my earlier sephi party player were near "B" but not in "B". Other players were couple of inches away from "B" not in "B" and then half the dps died cos the circles were to spread out on the left.

    So I said stack in B means IN "B" not near "B" but IN "B"!!!!.
    Party leader put "^ this!"

    Third attempt. Same thing again except this time even more spread out than last... Yeah sod this. Dropped party...

    I really don't get why people can't even do the simplest of things. If you can move to be near "B" you can definitely take that extra couple of steps to stack properly in "B"...

    End of rant.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 02-04-2017 at 10:55 AM.

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