Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Dzian]

I thought that too, but no one said anything to her. While it's entirely possible, normally they speak up if they recognize her (or at least give her a wave).

I think she might have gotten them because I left too quickly. I don't recall if I left immediately, but I am guilty of wanting to get in and get out as quick as possible and if that was one of those times the party might have just thought "oh I'll just commend the other Noblesse".

Did her job well? dps get commendations too

I get tons of commendations on ninja often for the simplest of things.
tossing a goad on a monk or paladin soon as there tp drops to half way. instead of waiting till they have no tp at all. or waiting for someone to be begging for goad.
using katon instead of doton on trash pulls that will be dead in less than 20 seconds.
using death blossom in big pulls,
shadewalker smokescreens.. all things the average duty finder ninja never seems to do.
oh and mechanics.

[Averax]

Dun Scaith is a wonderous place, specifically the 2nd boss.

I was trying to turn all the pads the right color, but then this blue dress bimbo wandered through all of them and started changing them back. We had the water debuff, and she was turning them blue. I undid all that she had done and started chasing her, she kept running in a circle trying to undo everything i had just fixed. She even sprinted to try and change more of them.

My FC mates are like "Averax, are you gonna punch that person in the face, because you should punch that person in the face"

all i manage to get into chat with my blind fury was the following:

olawnjdwkl,awnmdl;'awwkjmdksad
awldmalwmdwdlmadad
wdlawjdaw
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[Ilenya]

So I had an interesting Lancer in PotD. I've been running as a DRK to get to to 60, and was doing the 31-40 floors since I needed levels on my gear. We zone in, running through the first floor, and I'm noticing the Lancer's...Interesting choice of abilities. Unfortunately I don't know enough about LNC to correct much, so I didn't really say anything.

Until I was called a dumb tank for bothering to explore the map.

Which is pretty silly from a LNC using nothing but Chaos Thrust, Doom Spike, and Ring of Thorns.

[Shougun]

PvP Duty Finder count?

Immortal Flame team. Was going in deep to grab a node, noticed we started to thin out - some running away for better node targets (good thing). Didn't want to leave the other members behind if I could help it though, I'm Paladin; you have to play like one when you're one! lol. Besides nothing better feeling than making your cover ability actually feel useful. Cover, seals and clemency, Hallowed, etc, assured feeling like a boss when it works :P.

Anyway, definitely didn't work. Got stunned before I could use Hallowed Ground effectively, died with Hallowed Ground popping off (trying to get a last second ground is always the worst, cast it slightly early lol). Lala paladin on Maelstrom team thought it'd be cute to dance on my face, repeatedly until my re spawn timer was up.

Fastforward, Immortal Flames is winning, killed him on a node and either hallowed was on CD or my stuns stopped him (him being at least one of the Maelstrom lalafel Paladins), game starts to near a close - us leading, saw him again with my battle high drawing all the DPS trying to steal it, hallowed ground stun locked the Paladin into the final moments of our victory. I was happy to get the kill particularly because I wasn't going to toss the match for revenge, winning > some silly strife - but I got my revenge and was able to be helpful to the team :3.

Dunno about other game's and PvP but like I'm used to Dark Souls, you bow before fighting or you're not worth fighting... so dancing on their body? I was like.. really? Was nice to rolf stomp them :/.

A petty joy, but a joy I enjoyed no less lol.

[Kallistra]

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I'm not saying she's a bad tank/DPS or "I deserve all the commendations because I'm a better player". She is a perfectly fine tank, inexperienced, but fine. Above average, I'd even say. It's just not a job she's used to. I'm not criticizing her ability or how she plays.

I simply thought it was amusing that she received all the commendations in a fight she was unfamiliar with on a job she was also unfamiliar with. It did make us both scratch our heads and say, "How did that happen?" when it was over because neither of us were expecting it. That's why I decided to share the story, because we both found had a good laugh about it when it was over. I really don't care about commendations, all I care about is that we had fun doing something together.

[aesteval]

Did her job well? dps get commendations too

I get tons of commendations on ninja often for the simplest of things.
tossing a goad on a monk or paladin soon as there tp drops to half way. instead of waiting till they have no tp at all. or waiting for someone to be begging for goad.

You missed one: instead of tossing Goad onto the tank right after they pull and before they even use much TP. I've seen that one too. May have ended up missing it except for the macros announcing it every single time.

[Brinzy]

Just a general complaint and a pretty tangential post:

I think that if people are going to grind Lore for their Anima Weapon in ARF, eventually they should be doing more than sub-500 DPS. Also, healers should be using Cleric Stance when nobody is taking damage. At the very least, I shouldn't die three consecutive runs in a row to the 2nd boss because nobody stacked with me while everyone in the group overgears the content.

I don't get it. I'm closing in on my second anima weapon, and the gut wrenching part of doing these dungeons is the high probability that I'm going to do well over 50% of the group's entire damage done, even on bosses. Why are you grinding so much Lore without bothering to learn how your class works? The first thing I do when I hit max level on a class, especially a DPS class, is look up how they work. Going from a good <20 minute ARF run to several 35 minute ones is ridiculous. I don't want to go after anymore weapons just because I know that I'll have to endure these runs where people are doing literally 50 to 70% less damage than their class is capable of.

The main thing that makes this so baffling to me is that I know their runs have to consistently be 35-45 minutes, so you'd think that, eventually, they'd go, "Hmmm... this doesn't seem quite right. Should dungeons really be taking this long? I want to get my Lore as fast as possible. Maybe there's something I can do to speed things up?"

But no, that doesn't seem to happen. Of course, if I ever voice anything like this in game, I get called a "hardcore elitist", even though I've done nothing that would be considered difficult by anyone on these forums.

[Galaktica]

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This past week or two have been a truly eye-opening experience. I've encountered bad players before, but I feel like at least half of my recent dungeon runs will have someone who is completely clueless in one way or another. I had a bunch of examples typed out and ready to go, but ya know what? It can be summed up much easier simply by saying: there are a staggering amount of players who have no idea how to play and/or just don't care. While I think SE deserves their fair share of blame for making it so easy to carry people thru content and also their lack of "do you have any idea what you're doing?" checks throughout the vast majority of the game, I think the players themselves also deserve some blame.

I know I said I wasn't going to list any examples, but I have to talk about this one. I got an in-progress Sohm Al HM on the last boss earlier this week with a MNK who couldn't even keep up greased lighting 1. Not 2 or 3. Greased Lightning 1. Let that sink in. That player got all the way to lvl 60, cleared all that content, and still has no idea how to play their class. Again, SE deserves plenty of blame, but that is just a baffling level of cluelessness on that player's part.

And don't even get me started on the time I encountered a couple (at one point they paused for about 5 minutes because they were eating dinner btw...) and their friend in Snowcloak who got mad at me for correcting them when they were actively doing the opposite of what you should do during the 2nd and 3rd bosses.

You pretty much summed up the rest of my feelings on the matter

The main thing that makes this so baffling to me is that I know their runs have to consistently be 35-45 minutes, so you'd think that, eventually, they'd go, "Hmmm... this doesn't seem quite right. Should dungeons really be taking this long? I want to get my Lore as fast as possible. Maybe there's something I can do to speed things up?"

and, like I said earlier (because I need to apply some sort of reason for my own sanity), I'm convinced these types of players simply don't care. They don't care that they don't know. They don't care that they're wasting everyone else's time. "As long as I'm having fun, nothing else matters."

[Brinzy]

You're my hero.

I really think they just don't care at this point. Now that you mention it, there aren't that many, if any, checks to see if you know what you're doing. I think the most difficult scenarios people get put in for that is their class quests. I remember having to put in a few attempts on a BLM one, and then it turned out, surprise, I was doing something wrong! I learned what the problem was, corrected it, and it hasn't been a problem ever since I've last played that class. That MNK makes me cringe, because that's the main thing I look for when I notice poor play - resource management and the lack thereof, especially things that are critical and obvious to the class.

I've been in so many runs with DRGs not using Battle Litany, SMNs not cycling through Dreadwyrm Trance and Deathflare, etc. But you can't say anything, because like you said, they're having their own "fun" at the expense of everyone else, and it somehow makes you an elitist for not wanting to be their mule.

EDIT: The Snowcloak thing is hilarious, because I find that it generally takes trying to explain something like that once to a player to know what kind they're going to be. Usually they try to fix it, but then you get "those" players...

[Crysten]

I've been doing DF runs on A1S to test the waters in new bonus windows.

Last one I had was with a SMN at bare minimum iLevel who casted nothing but Ruin III. After getting Faust dead after 6 add pops, we get to the main boss, where she manages to die to both Photon Stream and Resin Bomb in the first 30 seconds. Of course, wipes happen cos no-one knows the legitimate mechanics.

Seriously, these players are seeping into DF Savage runs now? Christ.