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  1. #7561
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    A9S crushed my pride as a healer ._.
    *cry*
    I used to main AST in raiding back in Midas, but switched to WHM because I don't like the recent AST changes. Got talked into trying to heal A9S yesterday (with strangers) despite not being confident in my familiarity with the class yet (been maining BLM for Creator progression).
    We could, for the love of all things alive, not get below 16% on Faust Z x.x I want to blame the DPS for the severe lack of dmg, like, how can you do less than 1k DPS on ilvl 260? But then I'd have to answer how I can't soloheal this mini-boss on ilvl 250 either, so..idk...joke's on me, I guess ._.
    /pet

    Solo healing this can be very tricky at iL250 our healers tried. With better gear it is much easier. But making lower than 1k dps the real issue here.
    Faust Z shouldn't take more than 3 minutes. its is a dummy fight. Does this mean dps are making lower than 1k in less than 3 minutes?

    Idk if you had another healer who went full dps or you went in with 5 dps..
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    Last edited by Yeol; 12-30-2016 at 06:55 PM.

  2. #7562
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    Estelle9lives's Avatar
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    Estellise Ciel
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    So I've been leveling my WHM alt, and recently have been running into a slew of players who apparently don't know you can combo their weaponskills. Now, I always try to offer advice, some people listen, some don't, we go on and finish the Duty, nbd.

    I ran into a very special case however.
    Was running Qarn NM. The PLD (mind you, a level 55 PLD) was losing aggro to me, then I noticed they were doing things like Savage Blade > Fast Blade, Shield Lob, Savage Blade > Riot Blade, Rage of Halone (by itself...), Shield Lob.

    I asked why weren't they using Halone in a combo, since that makes them do less damage, generate less enmity, and making them take more damage because no STR debuff - also pointed out the melee ranged Shield Lobs, which do much less damage than Halone and eat more TP.

    They immediately reply with "You should spend less time in Cleric and heal better ; )". I'm flabbergasted by this as no one came even close to dying and I was contributing to DPS nearly full time since dungeon healing is generally very easy - but apparently "healing better" is sitting the whole time spamming cure. Right afterwards, the DRG in the party (mind you - the classic no Heavy Thrust DRG, dude was level 60 too, but I didn't even bother pointing this one out in party chat) points out "Uhh a level 36 vs idk how many 60's?", as if I didn't know what I was talking about. This honestly got a giggle out of me as my main is a full BIS DRG with A12S on farm.

    3 seconds later and I'm loading into Gridania. I got booted. Quick Lode search, they were in the same server and FC. This actually left me impressed at how bad and clueless people can be in this game and made me lose hope on trying to give advice to other players. This was not the first time I got kicked for trying to give advice, but the way the situation developed with them thinking they were in the right and I should shut up because I had a leaf on my alt was just facepalm worthy.
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  3. #7563
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    Cherub's Avatar
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Estelle9lives View Post
    The PLD (mind you, a level 55 PLD) was losing aggro to me, then I noticed they were doing things like Savage Blade > Fast Blade, Shield Lob, Savage Blade > Riot Blade, Rage of Halone (by itself...), Shield Lob.

    .....

    They immediately reply with "You should spend less time in Cleric and heal better ; )".
    I just got cancer.
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  4. #7564
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    A9S crushed my pride as a healer ._.
    *cry*
    I used to main AST in raiding back in Midas, but switched to WHM because I don't like the recent AST changes. Got talked into trying to heal A9S yesterday (with strangers) despite not being confident in my familiarity with the class yet (been maining BLM for Creator progression).
    We could, for the love of all things alive, not get below 16% on Faust Z x.x I want to blame the DPS for the severe lack of dmg, like, how can you do less than 1k DPS on ilvl 260? But then I'd have to answer how I can't soloheal this mini-boss on ilvl 250 either, so..idk...joke's on me, I guess ._.
    That is absolutely a DPS issue. Although difficult to solo-heal at 250, it wouldn't make enough of a difference if your DPS are pulling that low. At ilvl 260, they flatout have no idea what they're doing to perform that poorly. It's definitely not on you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Estelle9lives View Post
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    The phrase, "you can't heal stupid" has never been more appropriate.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 12-30-2016 at 08:44 PM.

  5. #7565
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    MeridaQ's Avatar
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    Merida Quigg
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    Ultros
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Estelle9lives View Post

    I ran into a very special case however.

    I got booted. This actually left me impressed at how bad and clueless people can be in this game and made me lose hope on trying to give advice to other players. This was not the first time I got kicked for trying to give advice, but the way the situation developed with them thinking they were in the right and I should shut up because I had a leaf on my alt was just facepalm worthy.
    Hmm I think for everyone\\'s sake we hope they were just trolling. Because sure I have seen similar stuff and tried to help, but if I got booted for such simple remarks I would be awe struck. I have made a couple alts because crafting... >_> and I remember a few remarks like that, but at least I didn\\'t get booted

    Scenario: tralala la oh hey there fellow adventure watch out for those goblins. Response... TEETH TO THE CURB!!! O.o /kick.. ;-;
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  6. #7566
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    MeridaQ's Avatar
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    Merida Quigg
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    Ultros
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    The case Estelle told us about reminded me about a very special ninja I ran into my in an A9S on my Pld alt. My tank friend and I duo qued RF, Faust Z np.

    I was like sweet nin I can start in sword oath. Pull starts no shadewalker alright I will give him a sec nope. :0 nin takes Agro dead. I switch into shield we continue, second scrapline I have boss not on a cardinal direction just off of straight west. Tb 6 people die... o.o Healer was like huh can you place on cardinal? Sure I say. My friend smh, muttering just move.. (LS) nin pipes up! Mt is trying to troll us, that was intentional wipe. O.o I say no, we go again. This time I say can you please shadewalker me at the pull, "I guess I have to, bc you can't hold hate." I ignore that, my friend starts laughing because nin initiated a vote kick. -_- it doesn't pass, we kill the boss next pull. The whole time I am asking for goad, Pld tp rip. He decided at 10% that maybe the MT should be able to attack. Smh..
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  7. #7567
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    Santherelle's Avatar
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    Santhelle Valentione
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Every single time I do a guild heist I start with "Don't kill the turtle please." even before the load screen has finished.

    50% of the time some one kills the turtle and acts shocked when it fails.
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  8. #7568
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Estelle9lives View Post
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    thud - I... I just don't even... are people really this level of "special snowflake" attitude these days? I'm trying to be angry but I'm just so flabbergasted I can't be... I mean this seems like a comedy sketch from Harry Hill's TV Burp.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  9. #7569
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    Maerwen's Avatar
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    Character
    Cherish Ashbel
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I got Sephirot from Trials. 2 new people. Cool.

    At 80%-ish, cohealer dies and I raised her. As soon as I did, one tank goes down for the count. Cohealer raised the tank.

    By 70%-ish, two people fell off, and they weren't the newbies. Lol.

    At 60%-ish, cohealer falls off. That leaves me solo healing the entire fight. Which would have been nice if all 4 other people stayed alive. I spent the whole time spamming Indo whenever possible, hoping that my aetherflow would be off GCD, and pretty much going crazy trying to heal like a boss. Oh and occasionally raising people. I believe I had to raise 3 people before we finished the fight. How many coms I got? Nada. Bard fell off so my MP was almost always down.
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  10. #7570
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Couple of days ago, I found myself in Vault as a DRK. Healer was SCH, DPS were MNK and BLM.

    Anyway, things were going well enough. At 58, I had access to almost all the skills that make me love mass pulling as DRK. (Oh, you want an Abyssal Drain? Do you want an Abyssal Drain with that? How about an Abyssal Drain to drink with that?)

    On the way to Grinnaux, I noticed the BLM was holding an Ironworks rod. Praying that it was just glamour, I examined them.

    Nope. Not glamour. They're in Vault, with ilvl 120 gear and accessories. Why me.

    Grinnaux was just... a pain in the ass, as he always is. I felt sorry for that MNK, because I had to keep repositioning Grinnaux due to AoEs. But we made it.

    So, as we were fighting the two robot-knight-horses before the threshold to the third section, I finally started paying attention to what the BLM was actually doing. What I witnessed made me want to cry blood.

    Going from Astral Fire III to Umbral Ice I via Transpose, with more than 7k MP left, then hardcasting Thunder III twice on the same mob. Using Flare while in Umbral Ice I. And I don't think Enochian was a thing to them. Admittedly, without Fire IV, Enochian is meaningless, but still.

    So I paused, asking them to explain their rotation to me. Maybe in some weird-ass fantasy world, hardcasting Thunder III twice in a row is indeed the best way to maximise your DPS, and maybe I just missed the memo.

    Thankfully, there was no such thing. I paused to type out the basics of the lvl 50 BLM rotation, just before the blue dotted line. The SCH wisely stayed with me, while both DPS ran on ahead and got eaten alive.

    And while thinking of what to explain to this BLM, I realised that there really is no fast way to explain all the intricacies of the job, so I just gave up after explaining the rotation and went on. They did seem slightly receptive to it, at least.

    Anyway, after Charibert's dead, I fully expected to get 0 comms for wasting everyone's time to explain the basics of a job to one of them, and healers usually get all the comms in that dungeon anyway. So I left.

    "You received a player commendation!"
    "You received a player commendation!"
    "You received a player commendation!"

    Huh... okay then.
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