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  1. #7531
    Player
    Azper's Avatar
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    Aria Ashford
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I was blessed with Garuda HM in my roulette this evening.

    DPS included a DRG, BRD, BLM, and SMN.

    Right out of the gate, before she's even pulled, I notice our BRD (level 52 sproutling) has Mage's Ballad up. The tank rushes into pull, during which time I type, "Ballad is a DPS loss to you and unnecessary at this point, please turn it off."

    *crickets*

    I change my approach and type, "Maybe try Foe Requiem since we have a BLM and SMN."

    ...Nope! They continue their Ballad until they're fresh out of MP. We didn't wipe, so it was hardly detrimental, but it was still frustrating. >.<
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  2. #7532
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    When you're doing Xelphatol for EX DR as a SCH, get to the final boss, deploy a 7.4K Crit Adlo off your Fairy and decide, "I'm going to eat every single mechanic for the next 30 seconds" and take literally 0 damage each time. =DD

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  3. #7533
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    Atoli's Avatar
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    Nhai Tayuun
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    "Maybe try Foe Requiem since we have a BLM and SMN."

    ...Nope!
    Was in Weeping City yesterday. We had one MNK and one BRD, the entire alliance other than those 2 were BLM/SMN (except for tanks and healers, ofc). You'd think with 13 mage DPS and 6 healers the BRD would sing Foe's..but of course not
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  4. #7534
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    Niraves's Avatar
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    Niraves Lunas
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Queued up for my daily Ex roulette run. Same old, same old. Zone in, say hi, marvel a little as one of my other party members actually says hi back and then take off towards the first few packs. Everything's going pretty much as normal. I gather everything up, throw a few Unleash out and then start doing the dodge the aoe dance. The DPS in the party are a BLM and NIN, both are decently geared and I figure great, this is gonna be a fast clear! Then I noticed the NINs hp dropping. I figured he was just standing in the aoes so he could keep dpsing and didn't think of it beyond that.

    We downed that set of mobs and off I go to grab the next. Healers mana looks good, I grab the mobs and Unleash once or twice. The BLMs hp is dropping now.. what the hell is going on? He has threat on six mobs. What the? How? What? I never lose threat on these pulls what is.. oh.. oops. Grit. I forgot Grit.

    Needless to say, I was a bit embarrassed.
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  5. #7535
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Had an odd scenario running leveling on Warrior.
    There are some monsters in Darkhold that can give you a nasty vulnerability debuff. If you're fighting multiple monsters at once, you have the vulnerability and the healer is struggling to heal you and doesn't get a chance to erase the debuff, it might be really difficult. Just watched this happen today in that dungeon, the healer had to choose between chaincasting heals like crazy or using erase and risking the tank dying (which he almost did and he was a well geared PLD). Might this have happened during that pull with the first group?

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    'Nother EX Primal! My FC told me after finally getting Ramuh unsynced that I should be able to get Shiva synced no problem. They said even with new people, it's an easy fight. Oh ho ho, clearly I'm in a different DF than they are.

    When your tanks are pulling 3rd and 4th place in DPS, you're gonna have a rough time on DPS checks, turns out.
    Yup, I tried doing this for a book a while ago. The group didn't get pass the add phase "DPS check" (which wasn't even a real DPS check back when the fight was current). Had to abandon after 5 tries and tell people to go check up their rotations and practice on a dummy before requeueing.
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  6. #7536
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    Mailula's Avatar
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    Mailula Luna
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60

    Worst Vault party ever (INCOMING RANT)

    So, I've been leveling my Bard and wanted to get some gear so I queued for Vault. I got one of THE worst teams ever. I always use Wanderer's Minuet or stance dance taking it off or putting it on for quick time sensitive things. But I've mained WHM before and AST so I understand how timing your casting skills is important. I've done Vault several times before this without a hitch except for missing a few dodges. THIS team however apparently has never done it before, though it says they have. The tank screwed us the first run at final boss because he tanked the boss to the back of the room and we couldn't see the adds to dodge. And then this trashtier BLM starts hitting the dmg stack fire balls away from us instead attacking the same one as us, slowing our progression down and getting hit by the remaining fire balls. And she NEVER dodged the aoes so she always died first.
    The healer (I know his name but I'm not that petty), decided it MY fault that the team was doing so poorly. He said to take Wanderer's off and never put it back on because we as dps, mind you the BLM was still not hitting the targets with the party, were failing because I was slow. I told them that I wasn't the issue, and I tried to tell them that I think we could progress faster if the BLM attacks with us or at least one target ahead of us in succession instead tackling a whole other target around the circle. But they insist it's me so to prove to them, because I've done this several times before their team, that I wasn't the issue I didn't use Wanderer's like they asked and we STILL wiped.
    So I tried telling them again. And the BLM gets upset and says that at I can move and have auto attack when in Wanderer's. Now any Bard knows this isn't true, these are by far the LEAST true things ever said about the class that it made me laugh at her ignorance of the class. I corrected, "So, when Wanderer's is on, you can't move or else it'll interrupt the casting, but I don't cast during times I know I'll have to move or dodge an aoe anyway so it's no problem to me. I also don't have auto attack because Wanderer's cancels out auto for dmg". She got upset again and said that she wouldn't attack the same target because she has to cast and can't finish the cast before we kill the target, so I tell her again to hit the target ahead of us in succession then.
    By the time I get to the top of the dungeon they've kicked me.I was sooooo fucking livid because I can't report them since it's not RMT activity. But I spent 45 minutes on that dungeon only to be kicked by a party whom doesn't understand the classes they play with and won't try a different route to defeat boss EVEN after I did because they asked me to. I absolutely hate partying with people like this and to not be able to report them and not actually have a reason except their rude human beings sucks.
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  7. #7537
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    You still have mobility during wanderers, just not total mobility. The cast times are only about half of your global cool down leaving lots of time to move around with no dps loss. The only time it needs to come off is for sections of consecutive aoe or a large aoe, which both require lots of movement. Small relatively infrequent aoe can be avoided easily enough with wanderers left on.

    As for attacking the same target in that fireball phase, that's only necessary if the damage increasing debuffs are reliant on focusing on a single target. E.g. Drg+Brd with the Drg piercing debuff. In your situation of Blm+Brd your foe requiem is AoE so it doesn't matter which target you both damage since the dps will be the same.

    Not to say any of this would have fixed the issue. That just looked like it was simple case on not enough dps to pass the check.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 12-29-2016 at 07:14 AM.

  8. #7538
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    aesteval's Avatar
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    As for attacking the same target in that fireball phase, that's only necessary if the damage increasing debuffs are reliant on focusing on a single target. E.g. Drg+Brd with the Drg piercing debuff. In your situation of Blm+Brd your foe requiem is AoE so it doesn't matter which target you both damage since the dps will be the same.
    Yeah, a black mage should be able to solo take down a number of the fireballs. There is no cause for them to attack the same target or just ahead of what you're attacking. BLM attacking distant target works out just fine since if nothing else the tank deals melee damage and making the tank move more to attack more is not efficient.
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  9. #7539
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    Pyretta_Blaze's Avatar
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    Hazel Meade
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 51
    You can report them, fill out the form ingame. Probably nothing would come of it but worth a try.
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  10. #7540
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    Mailula's Avatar
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    Mailula Luna
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    Yeah, a black mage should be able to solo take down a number of the fireballs. There is no cause for them to attack the same target or just ahead of what you're attacking. BLM attacking distant target works out just fine since if nothing else the tank deals melee damage and making the tank move more to attack more is not efficient.
    My frustration comes from not trying to work with me after I tried to work them. I know I can move a little into casting, that's something I get. The way it was being done was not working and my Wanderer's was the not issue. I guarantee if she had worked with us, we wouldn't have wiped because we clearly need assistance in the dps-ing of the fire balls.
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