Yesterday, we almost wiped in Weeping City.
The end.
Deepcroft Easy Mode
Tank (Paladin) Pulls 10 trash mobs down the hallway.
Healer is spaming Cure 1...
Tank aggros More mobs..
Tank Dies...
Party Wipes..
Blames the Healer (White Mage) for not Healing Faster and harder.
When only spell is Cure 1.... No divine Seal.
Remind him to pull but not be stupid... Blames Healer for his mistakes
Healer tells him leave your pride at the door and get the clear.
Tank if your not downstairs in 10 secs I'M gonna kick you
Starts counting down
Ninja and Black vote kick the tank
Healer Wins!
I tend to prefer Eos over Selene in any situation, because of the Rouse + Fey Illumination + Whispering Dawn combination, which makes for an excellent AoE heal. With that combination, Eos can keep the tank alive on her own in any huge pull, and I don't have to pull out Lustrate. It leaves me free to DPS, even in the face of large AoE damage.
Whenever I use Selene, I have to be sure I'm ready to heal at any given moment, so I'm not as free to DPS. She has Fey Wind, of course, but TBH that doesn't really outweigh the security Eos gives me. The only place I consistently use Selene over Eos is at Ozma, because of his bleeds, and because for most of that fight, the party is stacked closely together. Otherwise, I only use Selene if I'm absolutely sure I can handle any particularly huge damage on my own.
Leveling roulette, me as healer in a party with bard, pugilist and a warrior in Haukke NM. Warrior pulls one mob at a time then disconnects mid way, bard uses mages ballad all the time despite me saying not to and they use windbite only. Needless to say, it took a while and I felt sorry for the pugilist. I asked a FC member to come as a tank so we could at least finish it. As a bard main, this hurt me to watch and endure.
Tam-Tara on my alt's level 16 gladiator, it was 40 minutes before the daily reset. Party was lancer, arcanist and a healer I can't recall, and the latter asked for big pulls so we would finish before the reset. This dungeon rarely takes more than 20 minutes to complete, so we had more than enough time, but I decided to do the demanded big pulls and just blame the healer if we would wipe. I guess it was pretty helpful to have played a tank on my main char, but it was no problem to hold two or three groups, the healer easily kept me up without spam healing, and the lancer even had Death Blossom crossclassed, so we had decent AOE damage. Finished in 16 minutes, everyone was happy. My job was easy to handle and I got three comms.
Hit level 19 in that run and decided to do a roulette, got Sastasha. Can't remember the party composition anymore... After the second pack of trash, everyone just ran ahead ignoring the note which tells you which coral you have to interact with before the first boss. So I read it and when I returned to the party, they had already pulled. It was like 10 seconds and they weren't able to wait ._. Proceeded to pull before me (or at least they tried, if I want to, I can pull very fast) and purposefully attack three different mobs in single target so it was extremely hard and sometimes impossible to hold hate. As I knew they're teasing me on purpose and just ragequitting wouldn't help anything cuz you can easily complete Sastasha without a tank, I just decided to let the mobs eat whoever took aggro from me and, except for the two Flashes after the pull, act as a third DPS. Shitty run, it was mostly impossible to properly tank and of course I didn't get any comms. And then people wonder why the dutyfinder lacks tanks.
Palace of the dead floors 71-80 matched party, I was playing ninja, got partied with a dark, a dragoon and another ninja, the ninja instantly states there's no healer so pulls everything and wipes the party, we all vent as we leave and tell him if he's not good enough to run no healer not to queue matched or queue as a healer.
Re-enter Potd get partied with a summoner, a paladin and the same ninja, he tries it again but fails to pull the mob back to us before he dies. I explain to the rest of the group what happened before and to leave him there else he will wipe us again. 2 floors in he quits and takes the penalty ^^ replacement arrives it's a summoner who immediately contemplates quitting as no heals. I explain it's doable with no healer, I can't understand why everyone's so healer dependant especially with potions, summoner cross class and the paladins clemency. He decides to listen to me, we breeze through the rest of the floor set burning all mobs and pausing to recover between mobs. Team talk before boss room and we clear \o/ just glad the replacement listened and tbh I hope the other ninja reads this and realises how generically bad he is and enjoyed his 30 minute lock out. I hope no one else gets partied with that moroninc ninja if running matched potd.
Last edited by HiroKirito; 11-02-2016 at 10:29 PM.
You guys are right on this. Whenever I had a tank insisting on burning this boss, we always wiped. The faster and more you damage the boss, the more adds he pops. The more wolves pop, the more stacks people get, and the healer will be the first one to die. If I remember correctly, this boss was specifically designed to not be burned, contrary to the sub-boss before Siren.
Did A12 yesterday as a WAR. Had a PLD as MT. Things started off fine. We all start wailing away on the boss and things seem to be going fine.... then the adds came... I pull my 3 adds and then run to middle so we can gather them all. I use a few more overpowers.... Apparently this was a mistake... as I took aggro on 5 of the adds. The DPS was slow... the 2 bigger adds appeared and I still grabbed mine and ended up having 6 on me total and not getting enough healing to sustain me. We kill the small adds, but then the 4 show up to holy and that's where I died. So my add ran rampant on a healers face as the other tank didn't pull it and it proceeded to rampage through people.
We wipe. We all respawn and the healer starts getting on me about letting the add hit him... to which I replied, "I can't do much when I'm dead... I used all my CD's up". Then he started to blame me saying that I never took aggro and just let the add kill him ._. At this point, the rest of the party all started to chime in on my behalf as well saying that I had aggro but died and it went to him after. However, the salty WHM decided to continue complaining and all the while, the PLD MT decided to pull the boss again... before protect even went up... And now to top it off, the WHM wrote, "You won't pass, I'm out" and then disconnected. Le sigh.
We of course wiped as 1 healer couldn't sustain us. We get a new healer in and we go at it again. We wipe at the add phase again... this time, it may have been my fault though. Seeing as I kept taking aggro from my co-tank, I decided to keep my adds away from his so I don't grab all of them again and could survive. But doing so, we failed the DPS check (which even with separated adds... shouldn't be that much of an issue). New healer complained that I didn't group the adds in middle, so next go, I do and we get through the DPS check. We wiped on the next phase though. Was just a mess. Healers kept dying. Couldn't keep MT up. When I took over and provoked, a bunch of DPS tried to move "behind" the boss while I was re-positioning him back away from the party. In the process, they all took a tankbuster to the face with me (but at least I didn't cleave the healers!).
After that wipe, the new healer left and then everyone slowly trickled out as well. I went back in on DF again and the next group passed it 1st try no issues. Gotta love DF!
Don't worry. I'll spam cure the crap out of you with my Paladin.
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I ran Copperbell Mines the other night (levelling roulette). We had a mentor as a tank, a sprout healer and a dps...I must say, despite the dungeon taking a lot longer than I anticipated, it was just brilliant. The mentor was superb, ensuring that the useful bits of knowledge about the dungeon and the game in general were delivered in the most genuine, non-condescending manner I've seen. In fact, it was so inspiring myself and the other dps also waded in on advice, for which the newbie was really grateful for (hell, even I learned/re-remebered stuff). People forget we all have to start somewhere and I wish I'd had run into more helpful people like that when I first began.
That experience is, for me at least, what the mentoring system is all about and I wish there was an extra/special commendation to that mentor because they were bloody fantastic. I could never, EVER imagine that happening in WoW.
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