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  1. #6021
    Player
    Louvain's Avatar
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    Louvain Eventide
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yawnie View Post

    I just left after telling him he had 2 TP refreshers. Am I wrong here Invigorate should be used when you're around 600 TP, right? And purification is pretty handy as well.
    A monk doing their optimal dps rotation will run out of tp even when using Purification and Invigorate (not to mention most monks do not use Purification because they use Forbidden chakra. You can't use both). It's not as bad as Dragoon, but they still will eventually run out. Then when you toss out arrow, it actually makes them use abilities even faster than normal and they end up flooring tp very quickly. I stopped using arrow as much because of how fast it makes the melee and tanks run out of tp. You're better off using aoe spire or balance midfight.
    (5)

  2. #6022
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rai Dolabnha
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yawnie View Post

    I just left after telling him he had 2 TP refreshers. Am I wrong here Invigorate should be used when you're around 600 TP, right? And purification is pretty handy as well.
    In short, Arrow on melee is a no-no period. Even with TP refreshers we can hit a point of draining again.
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  3. #6023
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Yeah, I've talked to monks about it in instances about their comfort with Arrow, and they shred TP apart on good days, so it's more harm than good extended fights.
    Greased Lightning at max makes them burn TP fast with the skill speed boost, and an Arrow on an extended fight would wreck their ability to properly refresh it as their own skills just can't cope with them going even faster in their basic rotation.

    Give Arrows to mages, though a Monk would love a Balance as much as any other DPS.
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  4. #6024
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    Meimi_chan's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Lele Santoix
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Not my experience:
    A few days ago a friend said he was going to PoD as whm for exp and because it's been a while since he played the job.
    After he enters the instance he sends a screenshot because he loaded into a full healer party, everyone seemed excited to try out that composition.
    A few minutes later he sends another screenshot with everyone dead at the starting room because the first chest they opened was a mimic.
    (13)

  5. #6025
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    Suki-'s Avatar
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    Character
    Yui Yhisa
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Yawnie View Post
    Snip snip
    To he honest I can totally see where the mnk is coming from. A9 eats through so much tp.. there are no little breaks where you can't hit the boss or chances to lose GL stacks (unless you die >w>). Even bouncing between invigorates and purification.. by the end running on fumes xD
    (2)

  6. #6026
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    The_Shang's Avatar
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    Character
    Shan Aurelius
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Two stories, both while leveling my Black Mage. Note that I run dungeons with friends for most of the time, but unfortunately one of my regular party members wasn't on. The others went as Astro and Monk:

    #1, Stone Vigil. We got a lvl43 Pally. Without Shield Oath... Even after some prodding, with Shield Oath on auto-translate, the tank said that they hadn't doen the quest yet. He assured us it would be fine, but as you'd expect...
    We managed to clear though, with either my Monk friend or me tanking :/

    #2, Dzemael Darkhold. You'd think after the horror tank I'd had on Stone Vigil this would be better? Think again. Undergeared Dark Knight. Highest piece of gear on the left side was a lvl35 belt, and right side was all Weathered lvl1's. 2.8k hp, while my Astro friend (being a downscaled lvl60) had 2.6k hp. The tank was only using Grit, not using Darkside and spammed Unleash, which didn't help with my AoE's even with me popping Quelling Strikes every time is up. I'm still surprised we managed to clear ok, but it was not due the Dark Knight being good. There were some close calls, I can tell you that much.
    (3)
    Last edited by The_Shang; 10-18-2016 at 06:33 PM. Reason: WHY CHARACTER LIMIT, WHY???

  7. #6027
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Loaded into Sastasha HM for roulette, got paired with a sprout WAR, SCH and SMN. Even though there was no bonus I sort of expected a slower run than normal as sprouts tend to take their time more. WAR just pulls one group, fine whatever, I don't really care so I start DPSing. All of a sudden the SCH starts going at the tank saying things along the line of "omfg pull everything!!", the tank responded with "I'm not very familiar with this dungeon so I want to take things slowly". Apparently wanting to play within your limits was not acceptable for this healer and he immediately left :|

    I got a healer from NN to join in progress with us, the WAR was rather upset about what happened but the party reassured her that it wasn't her fault and to ignore people like that. She continued to go at the same pace which we were all fine with, after we get the healer in the group we cleared it in about 20 mins, so much for the SCH's gotta go fast strat....

    Was on ps4 chat with a few tank buddies and I was telling them what was happening and they were like "whatttttttt..... ._."
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    Last edited by Ignnis; 10-18-2016 at 07:05 PM.

  8. #6028
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    Acantha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Acantha Ibara
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Healed through lag like a pro yesterday 1st time running Hakkuke HM - on the 2nd room someone started using the microwave downstairs which messes up my wireless, luckily my bf is at mine atm so I just looked at his screen, seemed it was only my view that was lagging not my actual actions as I could still heal and chuck a regen on as needed although they opened a door that was still locked on my screen so we had a good laugh at me on my bf's screen stuck against an invisible wall ^^;
    (4)

  9. #6029
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Character
    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    In Great Gubal Library HM, I met a SCH who was my twin as SCH, gear-wise. Mostly Wiping Shitty gear, with the PotD weapon. Which was nice; I've healed that dungeon before as SCH at that gear level, and I know what the job is capable of in there.

    So imagine my heartbreak to see this SCH whip out Selene, and insist on DPSing when the tank has pulled 6-8 mobs, and dropped to 30% HP. No Sacred Soil, no Eye for an Eye on these large pulls. And their idea of DPSing seemed to consist of spamming Broil. On bosses, I'm fairly certain that I, as BLM, ended up using Eye for an Eye and Virus more than they ever did.

    I love DPSing as much as the next SCH, but if I want to go DPS-heavy, I get Eos out, and combine Rouse with Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn. I ensure the tank is fine before I start casting my DoTs. I do not ignore it when a tank starts dropping to below half-HP, because I know that spamming Lustrate is not as much of a spike heal as some people seem to believe it is. And I'm not fooling myself into believing that Selene alone, without even Rouse, is enough to keep a tank alive in a pull as large as the ones this tank was doing.

    I should've said something, but in the end, if letting the tank die in the middle of a boss fight, and having said tank pop Living Dead multiple times over the course of the run didn't bother them, I doubt anything a DPS could say would have made any difference. Also, it was a long day at work and I just wanted to finish my roulettes, eat, and go to bed. So I just kept quiet and did my level best to burn down the pulls as fast as possible as BLM.

    After that, I decided to queue as a healer for the rest of my roulettes, because if I want a good healer in my parties, I have to heal.

    Then Main Scenario roulette drops me, as AST, into Praetorium with a WHM co-healer. I can count the number of spells I saw them cast, with one hand. They were:

    - Protect*
    - Stoneskin II*
    - Medica II*
    - Cure
    - Cure II

    * denoting spells that were cast only once during the entire run.

    "Just AoE, I can heal," I typed out, only to be ignored. I switched to Diurnal Sect, throwing out Asp. Helios and Asp. Benefic, which was enough to keep everyone alive, in hopes of showing that they had room to DPS a bit, rather than stand there doing nothing for long stretches of time, throwing out the occasional Cure II spell. Of course this did nothing to change their minds.

    I seriously want to ask, what is the point of even paying the subscription for this game if you're just going to AFK your way through all of the content?
    (6)
    Last edited by Mysterysword; 10-19-2016 at 12:06 AM.

  10. #6030
    Player
    Maerwen's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Cherish Ashbel
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bebekurenai View Post
    Sounds to me like RMT bot
    Reminds me of the time my now fiance got a bot healer who does nothing but Miasma in Vault even without mob. He knows I freaken love Vault as healer so he woke me up at 3am to log in and be his healer after they kicked her.
    (4)

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