Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[vp_cmc]

My only regret

What about two other people in your group, who had to wait for other tank or start df again, even when they didn't do anything bad to you?

[Kallistra]

She had this all typed up on Word. She said if I didn't post it, I wouldn't get dinner today.

Ugh, guys, I had literally the worst Mentor Roulette ever. D: I can't even keep it to myself anymore. QwQ

I went SCH because a lot of dungeons had been popping on my DPS and the healers weren't really DPSing. An 8 man pops and its A2N. I've never healed it as a SCH (tbh, I don't think I've healed anything level 60 as a SCH), but we had an AST so I figured I'd be alright. I had Selene out and her sweet buff was just helping the DPS melt everything, it was amazing.

We get into the "boss room" (there's no boss, so I guess it'd be a "mob room"? XD). And the AST is suddenly complaining that we need someone on the walker to do bombs. I assure them that we can live quite comfortably without anyone doing bombs, as I had been in a party the previous week where no one did them and we were all perfectly fine. This AST is getting more and more upset and the tanks are finally annoyed enough to pull.

So this AST goes into the walker and leaves Selene and I to solo heal. In the beginning, it's not so bad. Adlo the tanks and the DPS are melting things so fast it doesn't really matter. Then one of the tanks decides to AFK (like he literally sheaths his weapon and stands still for the rest of the fight from this point onward. >.<), leaving the other tank to solo tank everything. Mobs are now flying all over the place, slapping DPS, killing DPS, nearly killing me. This poor tank is really trying is hardest to pick things up and I'm really trying my best to heal whoever has aggro, while this AST is just sitting on the walker waiting for bombs and this other tank is AFK.

Eventually, I run out of MP. Selene gets aggro on a couple of jag dolls and is murdered. I think we're on the 3rd last wave? Maybe 4th last? Not too sure. :x But I'm spam healing our only tank with about 400 MP. One of the DPS is standing in the cleave of the jag dolls and I literally don't have the MP to heal them, so they slowly die BECAUSE THEY DON'T MOVE OUT OF THE DANG CLEAVE. What the heck DPS. >:c

Finally the fight ends. We have maybe one DPS left alive at this point because I never got the MP to even summon a fairy again, never mind raise. x.x

And I was ENRAGED at this AST. SO ENRAGED. I said to the AST, "Thank you for making me solo heal that fight when we really didn't even need anyone to do bombs." and promptly left because I was so mad. I don't think I even commended the solo tank, even though I really wanted to. He was really trying, bless him. I really hope I did commend him.

Also, hi guys, I love y'all. <3 I read all your posts, keep being awesome. I might get Kalli to do more of these copy-and-paste posts since this is easier than us sitting together and working on a post together. And Masquerade, you go cast Protect whenever the heck you want. That DPS was a jerk.

[Masquerade]

What about two other people in your group, who had to wait for other tank or start df again, even when they didn't do anything bad to you?

I am not denying it was unfair to them.
But as I said, I was not going to be gaining anything from doing that run.The most I was there for was fun....and it was clear I was not going to have any fun in there. They could get a replacement for me and get the experience/loot they were after easy. I on the other hand needed a new group to replace me having fun or not.

The entire group was basically a bad situation that was going to leave no one happy. He just created a domino effect for it.

[CaptainLagbeard]

I get very little aside from DPS who defiantly refuse to switch targets...

But recently when doing Expert Roulette as a SCH, I did have a WAR tank who decided Deliverance without any cooldowns was good enough for big pulls and got himself killed and kicked the healer.

[Ersilon]

Leveling roulette with a friend, we get Haukke. I'm running WHM and my friend is running NIN, we get another ninja and a paladin. Other NIN is probably someone's alt who only had pugilist and rogue leveled up. Pally looks like a newbie, and can't keep aggro to save his soul. I guess he thought flinging his shield at a mob would draw enmity the best. Fortunately, the ninjas are burning everything down before it becomes a problem. During the run, tank is getting a little better, using flash more than once, but he's focusing on one mob at a time, and used Sprint(!!!) before a couple of pulls. The basement bosses' fight is pretty sloppy and I get aggro from the imp mob while they're burning down the skeleton (I couldn't dps because they bounced enmity around like it was a hacky sack), and I just get the feeling that the succubus at the end is going to suck. Sure enough, all of the adds end up beating on everyone, and I'm pretty sure the pally continued his trend of doing his best to shield lob his way to the top of the enmity lists. Haukke is not the first dungeon in the MSQ, so how can you level up through them as a tank and not know how to play your class/job?

[Knahli]

(I think there is a fail topic but I can't remember where so I suppose here will do)

It all started with Expert Roulette; Sohr Khai. The run proceeds just fine up until the last boss. I dropped Tank Stance thinking it was probably okay despite being behind on gear these days - and it was… at least up until a point where I stopped popping cooldowns, distracted by the many mechanics and the belief that you were supposed to kill all of the adds… all of which evidently gave my healer trouble as I eventually died while she was mid-jump - or so it seemed. So we wiped.

I apologised, mostly for the sake of the one random DPS tagging along with us, and returned to the run. Near the end of the second attempt, we were standing on one platform with that floaty dragon head projectile slowly coming right for us. I had no idea what it even did but I figured I’d make a sneaky escape to a platform that was covered in that giant AoE made by the now-untargettable boss right as the graphic disappeared albeit before the animation went off as is the usual… and so I did!

….only to then fall to my death...

So yes, I guess that’s where all of those platforms suddenly start disappearing to ;_; I didn’t realise that the AoE itself shattered them.


Third attempt! I hopped over to a platform on the other side of the map to bring the boss to the DPS who were doing whatever else…. right as they did the same thing. Fail. I better hop back and not make them jump again…. wait, wait they jumped again just now too ;;;;; Okay, I’ll just wait this time for them to jump a third time I guess.... (sorry, DPS).

We eventually beat it.

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Weeping City. The two Paladins were in Sword Oath for the first boss so I figured that sign enough to MT for the rest of the raid. At Forgall I wait for the three adds to pop, targetting the other two tanks to see where they would go. One seemed to be sticking to the middle so I thought he was going to take ‘my’ add, the Succubus from me, but once they appeared I realised that he was a bit in between her and the Amdapor-looking boss, so I grabbed the Succubus assuming he would grab the one on the left after all. Then I realised after a couple of moments that he didn’t aggro the four-legged thing and it was running rampage, so I immediately moved to swap over to it before it caused any trouble while doing a figurative eye roll to myself. That was when it hit me…. I was in Alliance A…. it was I, me.... this guy right here who grabbed the wrong add. Now both adds were following me and, in my confusion, I failed to fully turn the conal AoE away from the raid in time.

Messy, but ultimately no harm done. I apologised over alliance chat and continued.

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Ozma.

I was targetted with one of the meteors and since the other person was rather closeby, it wasn't immediately obvious that they would take the outer route for certain, so I was watching them closely while moving my camera quite a bit since I wanted to be ready to switch just in case, they did though… and in my awkwardness somehow managed to run right off the edge for the very first time ; On top of the previous incident, I felt super bad now, even though I was promptly revived and managed to grab my respective adds without causing any fuss for the other two parties.

Later on, I had three adds on me. I avoid aggro’ing the third so that the other Tank could reclaim it more easily if he wished, but once both of mine die I focus dps on the third. I drop a melee range Plunge on him(for those who don’t play DRK, that’s the gap closer)…......



.......right as the Add suddenly has a change of heart and floats across the great abyss, sending me flying to a cloudy death in the process. Ozma died only moments after but…. still ;



So, crushing shame and embarrassment was on the forecast today.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

This happens more often than people care to admit. Some BLMs don't care to learn their 60 rotation, so they use the 50 one because it's easier. I even partied with one who said he only played BLM when he didn't want to have to think and that's why he wasn't doing his 50+ quests.

I'm personally stuck playing BLM in only level 50 content just because I want to use a scepter.

I like the looks of my scepter and since SE so far has not given us the option to glamor a scepter over a staff I'm stick with an i95 weapon, thus limit myself to level 50 content.

There's even a thread asking for the ability to glamor 1h mage arms onto 2h mage arms...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ters-to-Staffs

[MeiUshu]

snip.

As you stated you are new to this game, I would like to point out to you, that for DPS (in this game), queues are VERY long depending on the type of dungeons they are queueing for. For tanks, queues are almost instant but for DPS they go up to 30mn if not an hour even more before they can enter any place. So, when they get in and a tank leaves right in the middle for them is a net loss and is from the tank (any doing so really other then if they really really suck and go beause of that reason which I do at times rarely but I do which then would be the right thing to do) a really unconsiderate and very disrespectful way of going about towards those players that were there with you. I am not saying your reasons are wrong but I am saying that before you leave as you did you mind want to think that in your group you are a key player a DPS is easely replaced there are lots of them but there arent as many tanks around. So as it looks like your going, had them probably requeue as no tanks queued in progress and they had to wait again a long time, when they were not guilty of anything. Some responsability comes with the role you choose.

I am sure you didnt know all that it implies but now that you know, I hope that next time you will take this into consideration before just going(I know is just a hope and yeah I believe people can act as person rather then being affected by the *either my way or none* attitude) To be fair, there are lots of people out there that act just like you, and each time it annoys me to no end.No offence meant of course not.

Also to say that the *whole group* was bad is kind of strange to hear....was it really so or is that you finding a justification to you going ?. (I dont need an answer to this)

Good luck in your game experience.

[Mysterysword]

This happens more often than people care to admit. Some BLMs don't care to learn their 60 rotation, so they use the 50 one because it's easier. I even partied with one who said he only played BLM when he didn't want to have to think and that's why he wasn't doing his 50+ quests.

I use the level 50 rotation when down to a single mob, on trash pulls. When it's 3 or more, I use the level 50 AoE rotation. Trash mobs die too fast to bother busting out Enochian/Ley Lines/Raging Strikes and risking having it on cooldown when we run into the boss, not to mention it's annoyingly easy to lose Enochian when your targets die so fast.

That said, a properly-executed lvl. 50 BLM rotation should be enough to at least secure more aggro than a healer, especially an AST in Noct.

Now for today's story. Expert Roulette as BLM. Hullbreaker Isle HM.

Tank is a WAR with 21k HP base. Obviously, not super-geared for the dungeon. But I've tanked Hullbreaker Isle AND Sohr Khai just fine as a PLD with comparable gear levels, even with DPS and healers who considerably outgeared me. This information will, of course, be important in this story.

The DPS are me and a BRD, I'm at an ilvl of 233, while the BRD is definitely 240+. The AST is also 240+.

For some infernal reason, this WAR keeps insisting on doing the biggest pulls possible, despite their suboptimal gear. When they die attempting to pull the 4 gorillas and cat after the Sirens fight(without a cooldown, and they may have switched into Deliverance), the healer gets insulted, of course. Unsurprisingly, the healer just goes offline, gets booted, and we get an equally well-geared replacement.

Since giant pulls are not possible after the gorillas, the WAR lives without comment. All up until Mistbeard, when the WAR decides it's a fine idea to pull in Deliverance. I ripped aggro off them. What was the mystical, epic DPS combo that stole aggro off this oh-so-amazing WAR, you ask? Why, a single Fire and Fire III. Clearly, this is such epic DPS that it should be nerfed.

Now, does this WAR, upon losing aggro, switch into Defiance to re-establish aggro? Oh, hells no. Of course not. That would be something only an intelligent, competent tank does. No, instead it's alllllllllllll my fault for not using Quelling Strikes. Because Quelling Strikes would solve all our problems when this WAR refused to switch to Defiance, and lost aggro to a single Fire and Fire III.

I had to tank Mistbeard for a solid minute because this dumbass tank didn't understand the concept of tanking.

If a tank is doing their best, staying in tank stance and doing all they can to keep aggro, and still struggling anyway because I do too much damage, I will help them. I will do my best to keep my DPS low enough for them to manage, if they are truly making an effort.

If a tank just wants to screw around in Deliverance/Darkside/Sword Oath and do a half-assed job at tanking, while blaming me for doing my job, they can go to hell. I will help people who care about doing their jobs right. I refuse to help idiot DPS who queue as tanks for quick queues.

[cammi]

The truff.

I love you.