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  1. #4331
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    Joe_Schmoe's Avatar
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    Joe Schmoe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    "You need to use Flash at least twice, preferably three times then use <insert enmity combo> to maintain aggro."

    That didn't take long to type.
    Not by itself, no. But when I'd also have to say:

    • Also: Fast Blade, Riot Blade, in that order. You don't have them, get them on your bars. You need to make use of them. gotta keep that MP up.

    • MP full or nearly full? Then Fast Blade, Savage Blade, Rage of Halorne, in that order. Use it on whatever monster is taking the most damage ie. it's going to be the one that's about to be pulled off you.

    • And get.Provoke.on.your bars. You DON'T want to know what the healer is saying in my FC chat whenever he's getting smacked around because of this.

    • Main menu > HUD Layout. Select "Enemy list" then move that to where you can easily see it without it being in the way. That's going to be one of your best friends when tanking. Need to monitor it to see who's doing what to whom, so you can act accordingly.

    • Also, while you're in the HUD layout menu, look for "Party list" and move that to where you can easily find it without it being in the way, another very good friend of yours. You're specifically looking for the little bars underneath each class icon. Those show how much threat they got on what you have targeted. Pay close attention to them.

    • Sense a theme? Don't just fight one monster until dead, switch targets often. We don't always attack what you attack.

    • Always try to keep monsters in front of you, barring AoE attacks. Always try to keep still as well, so we can do our jobs properly. This is FF XIV, not The Benny Hill Show lol.

    • Looking at your gear.... MY EYES! You need to choose gear with VIT on it and avoid gear that can be used by "All classes". You want gear that says something like "GLD PLD MRD WAR DRK" on it, which are specifically for tanks. Some may also have "LNC DRG" as well. Those are subpar but better than the "All classes" gear.

    ....then that takes up way too much time, and I'm sure the other guys didn't queue up for this (and I know that mentor sure didn't!). Not very fair to them.
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  2. #4332
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    Knahli's Avatar
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    K'nahli Yohko
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 89
    A while ago I was just doing a Mhach run on one of my characters. We stopped before Ozma for a couple of minutes while waiting on someone to relog/fill a slot I think, but once it was looking like we were ready to go, the last player remaining outside stopped right before the jump into the arena and kind of held everyone else up for a short bit, so people jokingly commented on it. In any case, we had a one bar LB ready so I was watching the map for the last player to make it in so I could initiate a pull. Once they began moving again I waited until they met up with their party, gave them a few seconds even then to get settled, noticed my Tank(MT) was targeting me so figured that maybe he was waiting on me to LB to begin. Took a last look to make sure everyone was here and ready, then pulled with LB.



    Our healer mouthed off, "like a dumbass". I didn't even know why he was spamming emotes but I was about ready to politely ask him to please stop spamming my chatlog and do something more productive. In any case, someone from another alliance noted that everyone was actually inside.... and that was the last I heard of that. Rather than his outburst, what annoyed me most was how unbelievably sad it was that he couldn't even work up a half-hearted apology for speaking out of turn. Twit.
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    Last edited by Knahli; 07-17-2016 at 07:48 AM.

  3. #4333
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Schmoe View Post
    snip snip....
    ....then that takes up way too much time, and I'm sure the other guys didn't queue up for this (and I know that mentor sure didn't!). Not very fair to them.
    Except there's no way--short of making a premade of experienced players--to make it 100% that a party won't get a beansprout or someone who doesn't know how to perform a specific job (sprout or not) because they are new to it. If you or that mentor or anyone else "don't want to sign up for that," form a premade or use the Party Finder. If this was that (bad) mentor's Mentor Roulette, then he's guaranteed a sprout with each roulette, so he will always have a newbie. And some may do alright, others may not. If he doesn't want to mentor (sounds to me he's in it for the shinies), then he needs to not be a mentor. Shinies or not. Because he gives the good mentors a bad name.

    Secondly, runs tend to go much smoother if people would wait patiently to let a (willing) mentor help a beansprout/person new to a job. Less wipes, less confusion, less anger. Typically anyways. Of course, the sprout has to be willing to listen, and I know many are not. I'd rather have a slightly slower, but smoother run with less wipes, than a speed run with wipes every other trash pull.

    It's also not very fair to kick a sprout after not bothering to explain to them how a new dungeon works, or help them out. And yeah, maybe he should have a little better understanding of his job at level 38-40, but still trying to nudge him in the right direction couldn't hurt. Like someone else said, you don't have to be a mentor to help.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-16-2016 at 01:16 AM.
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  4. #4334
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    Singularity's Avatar
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    Ariane Aster
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Schmoe View Post
    I'm sure the other guys didn't queue up for this (and I know that mentor sure didn't!). Not very fair to them.
    Not fair to them?!?
    That "mentor" queued with a crown on, that means it's his job to do that sort of explaining. If he is not only so bone-idle that he refuses to actually do any mentoring, but would even have the temerity to complain about someone else doing it, then he deserves to have that crown ripped from his head and shoved up his backside.
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  5. #4335
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Signed up for Midas normal runs on SCH this morning because I'm tired of tanking it. We get to Twinkledinks with no problems, go down the slide, start party buffs, then:

    PLD: who's going to do bombs?
    Me: not me, we will wipe <----- *has wiped the raid doing bombs*
    SCH2: not me, I'm terrible at them.

    We shuffle our feet for a moment. The PLD points out that we have four melee and says bombs are easy. I tell him, will you say that again after we wipe?

    I step up and volunteer and SCH2 thanks me. I ask someone to help me with three bombs and the tank pulls.

    The first few rounds of bombs away are fine. I even manage to get two bombs where I'm sure I would have failed before.

    Then the real test: three bombs. SCH2 jumps in to help me. We gorilla up and punt all three bombs away; but, we both get clipped and die on the way back to the party. I joke from the floor, the good news is we didn't wipe the raid! Group dps was so good they killed him before anyone else died. \o/
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  6. #4336
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    Hyomin Park
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    Actually had a *better* run of Weeping City last night. Not perfect, but better than the other runs I've had all week.

    Had a Battle of Which Tank Has the Biggest You-Know-What on Forgell and the trash mobs before him (but it was very entertaining to read lol). The other healer in our alliance (I was running as WHM for those healing gears) was quiet impatient and a little rude. And after Forgell, about 5 or 6 people left after getting their drops, the majority being healers (including our rude one). XD Got a WHM who was a little spacey during Ozma (resulting in lots of deaths), but the apologized. Also mentioned they'd already ran Weeping 11 times that day for their loot (dang, please take a break!).

    Still no healing boots.... Looks like I know what I'll be doing all weekend! ;-; I just want to get rid of my VA boots already!!
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-16-2016 at 07:44 PM.
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  7. #4337
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    Ace Ark
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 100
    My first time doing Sohr Khai tonight, we got to the last boss. Because it was my first time I let my Cutscene roll (Yes I like to do that) but the rest of my party went ahead and fought the boss (I'm the healer fyi).

    It got sealed off before I could go in. My party died, of course. The Tank (A paladin) and a DPS (Black mage) were trying to pin the blame on one another. PLD said that BLM was pre casting so she had no choice but to pull, but BLM said he didn't. Monk was blaming the Tank.

    I couldn't see myself cause, cutscene, but that goes without saying.

    If you have newbies to a dungeon in your party and they bring it up more than once, try to not go ahead and run fights without em especially if they're a healer.
    Before anyone says "Why not just skip cutscenes?" Because not everyone would like to skip on their first time and possibly forget to view it later. But that's just me.
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    I get really annoyed by twitchy BLMs that are constantly casting/canceling until the tank pulls. I imagine the tank didn't realize the BLM wouldn't let the cast complete until the tank ran for the boss.
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  9. #4339
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    Aosha Koz'ain
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Weeping Snip
    Just got my weekly WC done yesterday. Had an all around good time and a very competent alliance. We even joked about getting the tank belt to drop 3 times, with our tank having already run it 15 times that day for the pants.
    And we got your healer boots. Sorry :/
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  10. #4340
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aosha View Post
    Just got my weekly WC done yesterday. Had an all around good time and a very competent alliance. We even joked about getting the tank belt to drop 3 times, with our tank having already run it 15 times that day for the pants.
    And we got your healer boots. Sorry :/
    It's okay. ^^ I actually enjoy Weeping when people aren't being butts. Hopefully my boots will drop when I spam it tonight XD. I'm glad to hear that your run was good too! I know a lot of people have had crappy runs all week. It's exhausting.

    Speaking of like triple drops, I once ran and the Boots of Scouting dropped four times for our alliance. First boss and second boss--double drop in our treasure chest. And it did it to another alliance too! Like game, pls.
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