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  1. #33821
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Since i started leveling DNC, tanks have decided that mass pulls are no longer fun and we should never do them ever. It's like... come on, let me spread my wings a bit, it's the one area where DNC is still great at atm.

    Also since i started leveling DNC, many melee dps have forgotten their rotations because i'm out-threating half of them and dungeons are just taking soooo long.
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  2. #33822
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Character
    Crowe Valtyr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Two minor annoyances today that just illustrate how absolutely inane people are in this game.

    P2n, I was ahead in DPS over two other RPRs. Red dorito stacks go out, one of the RPRs was closer to me than it'd be to run to the party, so I move to stand with them. They sprint away towards the party while I'm trying to figure out wtf just happened - and I ofc die. Ask "Really?" in chat, they just give an uwu face; did it on purpose, obviously.

    They also decided to stack one of the targeted AoEs on me. My Crest kept me just barely alive, but I guess one of the healers was their friend, because I received only marginal healing before a raid-wide killed me.

    And then in my Expert today, was 2 seconds ahead of our DRK tank for the last double before the second boss (I wasn't popping sprint, since they were barely doing so). Literally, only a couple paces behind me - so I go ahead and slap my AoE dot up, pop Arm's for some mitigation to help them out. They aggro the first pack of the bunny robots, I'm down the stairs and the jelly thing aggro's me along with its tiny friends. Pop Crest up so the tank will have some extra regen going. Tank gets in the midst of the second group... I'm still taking damage.

    My friend was on AST, but they were also on call for a D&D game so were a bit distracted and couldn't keep me up. I die, tank finally takes aggro after realizing everything would be eating the healer if they didn't. Nothing was said, but I know it was intentional; they just single targetted the big jelly mob and didn't AoE anything else.

    Like - are you really that salty that I pulled 1 second earlier than you? And was even using stuff to help you, on top of it? Aggro is one button, quit being an actual child and do your job.

    People in this game make me want to drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  3. #33823
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Been noticing a lot of healers lately that don't bother to heal after raising someone, then get salty when that person dies to an unavoidable raid-wide attack. And I don't mean they took the raise at a bad time; I mean two or three minutes later with no heals.
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  4. #33824
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Berteaux Braumegain
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I had a Grand Cosmos party today that was unbearably slow. Most times I do this dungeon, the bosses are able to do their main mechanic twice before dying; this time they did they FOUR TIMES. Four brooms, three Direct Seedings (and people would refuse to kill adds), and I want to say... eight casts of the tethers from Lugus?

    I don't know if the Tank (DRK) and Healer (SGE) were doing damage well, since DRK abilities don't really have a cast and I haven't messed around with Sage yet. However, I do know that the Black Mage literally did not touch anything other than Blizzard II or Blizzard III the entire dungeon. No Fire. No Thunder. No Xenoglossy.

    I would genuinely pay half of my gil to never see another Ice Mage in-game ever again.
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  5. #33825
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    P2n, I was ahead in DPS over two other RPRs. Red dorito stacks go out, one of the RPRs was closer to me than it'd be to run to the party, so I move to stand with them. They sprint away towards the party while I'm trying to figure out wtf just happened - and I ofc die. Ask "Really?" in chat, they just give an uwu face; did it on purpose.
    I’d like give that RPR a benefit of doubt due to possibility them not knowing that they don’t need more than 2 players stacking together to resolve the doritos, because I’ve came across plenty of such players in P2N since it first came out.

    There was even some random who explained to bunch of first timer: ”We -all- have to stack together.” which was just plain untrue. Thankfully after clarification & first timers actually listening, there wasn’t any chaotic moments in that run.

    But I understand how the “uwu” could make you thought it was done on purpose.
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  6. #33826
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    i need to do bozjam delubrum raid so i do it and end up with 2 person party, just me RDM and PLD, both of us so confused what is going on lol

    we decide to try and surprsingly its manageable but it take forever, like it took us 30 minutes more or less just to drop boss hp to roughly close to 1/4 of his hp. we just call it quit and move on.

    what is this "raid", SE better do something about this because i really want that law order armor set
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  7. #33827
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    i need to do bozjam delubrum raid so i do it and end up with 2 person party, just me RDM and PLD, both of us so confused what is going on lol

    we decide to try and surprsingly its manageable but it take forever, like it took us 30 minutes more or less just to drop boss hp to roughly close to 1/4 of his hp. we just call it quit and move on.

    what is this "raid", SE better do something about this because i really want that law order armor set
    Much like Eureka, Bozja is done primarily through Discord nowadays. I just did Delubrum myself earlier this week with an impromptu party. Check to see if there's a CEM Discord for your Datacenter.
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  8. #33828
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I’d like give that RPR a benefit of doubt due to possibility them not knowing that they don’t need more than 2 players stacking together to resolve the doritos, because I’ve came across plenty of such players in P2N since it first came out.

    There was even some random who explained to bunch of first timer: ”We -all- have to stack together.” which was just plain untrue. Thankfully after clarification & first timers actually listening, there wasn’t any chaotic moments in that run.

    But I understand how the “uwu” could make you thought it was done on purpose.
    There was a pause before they moved towards the party, like they decided last minute to screw me over. That + the stupid face when I said something made it pretty clear it was done intentionally.

    Not to mention their healer friend (same server) not bothering to heal me after they ran an AoE on me.

    I've rarely (meaning: never) seen anyone unfamiliar with the dorito stack in P2n, personally. Given Mhach is a semi-frequent pop-up in Alliance roulette and it features the same mechanic, I think most people know how it works on Crystal. It'd shock me if someone had never once ran into it at all by the time they do P2n, though in the rare instances it'd happen, I'd assume it was boosters.

    But yeah, even if it had been, the response and their subsequent actions made the intent to screw me over pretty clear. Because why bother improving as your chosen class when you can just snipe your party members who are doing better than you, right? :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  9. #33829
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I got wrecked the last time I ran the Dead Ends, it went terrible. Those runs happen to the best of us and if you're too hard on yourself it affects focus and just starts to spiral from there. It's not wasting a groups time to have a bad run, it happens to everyone and most people are understanding of that.
    Thank you for the kind words. I admit I really went in all out bashing myself for everything from not reading telegraphs right to regretting keeping WHM my MSQ main. Deaths just kept chaining, legit I burst into tears. Going to try not overreacting so much next time...
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  10. #33830
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    Erik501's Avatar
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    Jade Green
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Two minor annoyances today that just illustrate how absolutely inane people are in this game.

    P2n, I was ahead in DPS over two other RPRs. Red dorito stacks go out, one of the RPRs was closer to me than it'd be to run to the party, so I move to stand with them. They sprint away towards the party while I'm trying to figure out wtf just happened - and I ofc die. Ask "Really?" in chat, they just give an uwu face; did it on purpose, obviously.

    They also decided to stack one of the targeted AoEs on me. My Crest kept me just barely alive, but I guess one of the healers was their friend, because I received only marginal healing before a raid-wide killed me.

    And then in my Expert today, was 2 seconds ahead of our DRK tank for the last double before the second boss (I wasn't popping sprint, since they were barely doing so). Literally, only a couple paces behind me - so I go ahead and slap my AoE dot up, pop Arm's for some mitigation to help them out. They aggro the first pack of the bunny robots, I'm down the stairs and the jelly thing aggro's me along with its tiny friends. Pop Crest up so the tank will have some extra regen going. Tank gets in the midst of the second group... I'm still taking damage.

    My friend was on AST, but they were also on call for a D&D game so were a bit distracted and couldn't keep me up. I die, tank finally takes aggro after realizing everything would be eating the healer if they didn't. Nothing was said, but I know it was intentional; they just single targetted the big jelly mob and didn't AoE anything else.

    Like - are you really that salty that I pulled 1 second earlier than you? And was even using stuff to help you, on top of it? Aggro is one button, quit being an actual child and do your job.

    People in this game make me want to drink.
    To be fair, it can be a bit anoying as a tank when one of the DPS or the healer is always doing everything they can to pull ahead of you. On top of that, they usually position the mobs in the worst possible spot forcing the tank to be constantly adjusting and spending more time to secure aggro on every mob, group them up in a safe spot and facing away from the rest of the party. It's not a big deal, I agree, but it can be a bit annoying anyway. Just stay behind the tank, it is not that hard, really... Believe it or not, if the tank is minimally competent things will usually be faster if you let him pull and position the mobs with ease instead of forcing him to run constanly back and forth all over the place.

    That said, I would never do what that tank did to you. I always grab every pulled mob regardless of who pulled. A DPS making it harder for me is not a valid excuse to screw the party and risk an unnecesary wipe.
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