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  1. #32361
    Player
    Ferra's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ferra Burnheart
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 78
    This isn't so much a singular tale, more of an overview of all the trials I did last night.

    Tanks that are all about rush rush rush and pull with no hesitation between wipes.

    Start fight, people don't know mechanics "Heya, I've done the fight! I can--" PULLS
    Wipe, people making same mistakes "Listen, all we need to do is--" PULLS
    Wipe, making progress purely because Echo exists "CAN YOU STOP RUSH PU-- PULLS

    I get it, time is money, but it's so infuriating when you hit 60 minutes multiple times just because a tank doesn't want to work out a plan that would, ultimately, save everyone a lot of time.
    (8)
    ~The Passionate Pugilist~

    https://ferraburnheart.carrd.co

  2. #32362
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    CatowiceGarcia's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ghislaine Arben
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 76
    Hi, it's my first time posting, been lurking for a while, but I have a recent story I want to share! It's not about anything negative, but just another tale of the Aurum Vale!
    I wanted the 72 ability, so I hopped back into the leveling roulette for my RDM, as they were 3mil exp away. I was expecting a low-level, since it's been so long, and surprise, surprise, Aurum Vale! My party members are a Sprout WAR, Sprout WHM, and a Sprout DNC! I'm sure you can see where this is going! :) (btw, the dancer and healer have "watching cutscene" at the beginning)
    We load in, I examine everyone's gear, notice that the healer is still leveling, so they have a mix of ~i40-50 NQ or Job Gear. I inform the tank to be careful, and so we march on! But the WAR hesitated, unsure of how to approach 1.0 design. So I take it upon myself to mark (1) on the nearest frog, and we mow it down! HOWEVER, the WAR gets cocky and proceeds to pull even more, which overwhelms both him and the WHM. He fails to get aggro so I go down first as I'm the Magic Machine. I tell the DNC to wipe so we can restart. At least each pull we made progress lol.
    I throw a tip to both tanks & healer that {provoke} and {holy} are amazing tools to maintain aggro on far away enemies or to help the tank take less damage. Both of them utilize them right away, leaving a great impression.
    UNFORTUNATELY we wipe 2 more times, the 2nd time our Sprout Dancer runs away towards the center of the room after receiving aggro, pulling even more mobs and overwhelming our precocious blue/green dps. The 3rd wipe was cause of me! I backflipped poorly, killing myself due to the tank not even being aware of it! We get to Locksmith, and everybody has a hankering for a healthy snack! I notice afterwards that the DNC forgot about{Standard Step} + {Standard Finish}, so remind them and they follow-up immediately!
    Meanwhile, WAR's search info shows it's their only job seriously lvl'd to 71, so I ask, and yep, they are on their way to opening the Gates of Fury! I dunk on the room before Coincounter with LB, and after he goes down, turns out, WHM & DNC were a duo, and the DNC DC'd! We press on, as I'm confident in RDM's OP AOE to meatgrind everything into dust. Last trash pull, I've been thinking to myself that our WAR seems to take a lot of damage, and my short-term memory is very bad so I call out "DEFENSIVES!!!" and express "That explains it. Help the poor smol healer by beefing yourself up!" but turns out they were on CD, which I didn't notice. My apologies, Justa Blurr
    Malboro goes down, we give our high fives, WAR instaleaves (maybe it was because of me :( I just unlocked the /MandervilleMambo, and it's my new favorite dance so I ALWAYS put up a show to Sprouts! I wish the duo a good night and I walk away with the Healer's comm!!! I gave mine to them too, because they were so open and polite (and cute, all lalafells are cute)
    (0)

  3. #32363
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    morsdood's Avatar
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    James Osric
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Qitana Revel
    Tank is a DRK, seems to understand the laser wall part alright, crumbles like actual paper on the first attempted w2w, turns out to still be wearing Shire pieces and to be not very mindful of enemy AoE

    Alright so a slower run, I don't mind, its a leveling dungeon and its not out of the ordinary for people to be somewhat undergeared in those, we make our way through the separate packs and it turns out that this DRK only uses his AoE ONCE per pack, then just single-targets one of the mobs until its dead, then on to the next, doesn't even bother trying to get aggro back when its lost

    Some extra healing on the DPS then who keep taking a beating because they're just doing their job, we reach the first boss, not much spectacular here except that the DRK manages to eat most of the statue blasts and slams with absolutely no signs of learning, it's also good that this boss doesn't do a cleave because the DRK seemed to be doing his best to keep him facing us as much as possible

    We reach the batcave and RDM asks the DRK to please hold aggro, crickets and absolutely no changes follow, NIN seems to be holding back a bit until the RDM is getting slapped again with each pack

    Second boss, NIN dies to a pillar falling on them, no biggie, easy resurrect, maybe this shows the DRK what happens if you don't dodge the pillars? Nope, DRK continues on to catch multiple pillars until death, thankfully I saved Swiftcast for this moment and immediately rez DRK.. except he takes his sweet time accepting, boss is now smacking me and starts his tankbuster, I die but the DRK is finally getting up, the boss is now smacking the NIN until the DRK eventually finds his provoke button, everyone's on low health now and RDM rezzes me just before the roomwide AoE goes off, I manage to heal everyone through it, the fight somehow finishes and we move on

    Last bit wasn't very eventful considering there's pretty much nothing a Tank can really mess up on the last boss.. the RDM did take quite a beating on the way there though

    Eden's Promise
    I finally got around to doing these last night and every group, all four runs, had the same BLM that just.. would not move out of AoE? Not even the funny ''haha black mages stay in their leyline '' meme but just straight up not move out of any AoE, no matter when

    I'm not exaggerating when I say this guy spent more time dead than alive across all four of these fights even with constant resurrections and multiple rescues out of bad stuff

    I just don't understand how someone gets to that point in the game and then plays like that? An afk player probably would've avoided more, we still got through everything fine so its not like it impacted much but it was just so odd to see
    (2)

  4. #32364
    Player
    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ursa Nightrain
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    To the other healer of our Copied Factory run:

    I apologize for calling you dead weight, when I apparently mis-clicked your raise as explained by others in the party, even though I was sure I pressed the button (I didn't). I hope you enjoyed Broiling for the rest of the run as I became Super (embarrassed) Healer TM; giving you pretty much all the caster damage cards (cause there were no casters--just ranged) and putting up with party shenanigans (DPS stealing tank tethers, DPS standing outside the missile barrier, etc) without further snark. I am quick to point out people that I think are purposely AFK (there's a lot of that going on on our Datacenter for some reason) but in this case you were just ded and my raise apparently didn't go off. So, sorry for that. Hope you had a wonderful night. XD

    Still Kinda Embarrassed,

    Me
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  5. #32365
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Ran -a lot- CLL this past week. I cycle through many different jobs to keep my cache supply balanced.

    Each run mileage was different... but I'll just write down 1:

    Rolled as an AST. Enters the run packed with 20 Ether Kits because I forgot to take them out for something else better, but got out from the run with only 2 Ether Kits left in stock. That was a shitton amount of rezzing I had to throw. Second half of Dawon's encounter was basically brute forcing with all those weakness & brink of death debuff.

    Also what's wrong with people nowadays failing to rescue all 6 prisoners even with 32+ players in the raid?! I remembered having far less in the past but we were still able to rescue all 6 more consistently!
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  6. #32366
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Ran -a lot- CLL this past week. I cycle through many different jobs to keep my cache supply balanced.

    Each run mileage was different... but I'll just write down 1:

    Rolled as an AST. Enters the run packed with 20 Ether Kits because I forgot to take them out for something else better, but got out from the run with only 2 Ether Kits left in stock. That was a shitton amount of rezzing I had to throw. Second half of Dawon's encounter was basically brute forcing with all those weakness & brink of death debuff.

    Also what's wrong with people nowadays failing to rescue all 6 prisoners even with 32+ players in the raid?! I remembered having far less in the past but we were still able to rescue all 6 more consistently!
    If it makes you feel better one run of CLL I went in as WHM with a friend, one group snagged me and one other healer, two tanks, and 3 dps, with my friend on BRD. Somehow my party got split up after directions were called (I told them to go intercardinal first as it's easier and quicker to deal with), one tank decides to go West and another with another group NW. I sighed to myself and just tried to keep this silly tank alive. We only rescued 3/6 with 36 people in the raid.

    Same raid run one party didn't have a healer, and I realized later I should've went with them at the start, as my party couldn't keep themselves standing for some reason (people had Lost actions on, people had hp boosting essences on, but just could not do mechanics for their lives). Between Devil Boy and Derp-Derp, I had to hand out a lovely total of 42 raises and burned a good 6 lost chainspells just to get people back up between those two fights. 42. Raises. Total. Between two freakin' fights. How do I know the number? I have a short raise macro of who I'm raising. I had to go back and count every. Single. One.

    If they release a new job in 7.0, it should be Necromancer. We need easier raises if we're stuck on Rez duty.

    At least when we got to Derp-Derp, I swapped parties to the one that didn't have a healer. It was such a massive improvement, but that other healer couldn't keep that party I left in alive at ALL. The WAR in the new party I was in was riding Nascent like there was no tomorrow to help keep his party alive.
    (1)
    Last edited by Cincierta; 09-27-2021 at 06:56 AM.

  7. #32367
    Player
    SnowVix's Avatar
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    Charming Tulip
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by morsdood View Post
    Qitana Revel
    Tank is a DRK, seems to understand the laser wall part alright, crumbles like actual paper on the first attempted w2w, turns out to still be wearing Shire pieces and to be not very mindful of enemy AoE

    Alright so a slower run, I don't mind, its a leveling dungeon and its not out of the ordinary for people to be somewhat undergeared in those, we make our way through the separate packs and it turns out that this DRK only uses his AoE ONCE per pack, then just single-targets one of the mobs until its dead, then on to the next, doesn't even bother trying to get aggro back when its lost
    i understand your desire to extend the most understanding possible, but wearing Shire in Ravel is just completely unacceptable
    (3)

  8. #32368
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    LaughingBanana's Avatar
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    Character
    Hikari Youko
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    To the other healer of our Copied Factory run:

    I apologize for calling you dead weight, when I apparently mis-clicked your raise as explained by others in the party, even though I was sure I pressed the button (I didn't). I hope you enjoyed Broiling for the rest of the run as I became Super (embarrassed) Healer TM; giving you pretty much all the caster damage cards (cause there were no casters--just ranged) and putting up with party shenanigans (DPS stealing tank tethers, DPS standing outside the missile barrier, etc) without further snark. I am quick to point out people that I think are purposely AFK (there's a lot of that going on on our Datacenter for some reason) but in this case you were just ded and my raise apparently didn't go off. So, sorry for that. Hope you had a wonderful night. XD

    Still Kinda Embarrassed,

    Me
    Uhh, caster damage card? Spire, Bole, and Ewer's optimal effect work for all ranged attackers (and healers too, but don't use the cards on healers if there's a DPS still hanging around....) be they Ranged Physical DPS or Magical DPS....

    Or maybe I'm missing a joke here or something?
    (6)
    Last edited by LaughingBanana; 09-27-2021 at 05:11 PM.

  9. #32369
    Player
    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Character
    Autumn Stardust
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    To the other healer of our Copied Factory run:

    I apologize for calling you dead weight, when I apparently mis-clicked your raise as explained by others in the party, even though I was sure I pressed the button (I didn't). I hope you enjoyed Broiling for the rest of the run as I became Super (embarrassed) Healer TM; giving you pretty much all the caster damage cards (cause there were no casters--just ranged) and putting up with party shenanigans (DPS stealing tank tethers, DPS standing outside the missile barrier, etc) without further snark. I am quick to point out people that I think are purposely AFK (there's a lot of that going on on our Datacenter for some reason) but in this case you were just ded and my raise apparently didn't go off. So, sorry for that. Hope you had a wonderful night. XD

    Still Kinda Embarrassed,

    Me
    They died and you didn’t raise them, called them dead weight while they’re dpsing and then gave them all the ranged cards? Funny. There are melee/tank cards and then ranged/healer cards by the way, not differentiated by physical or magic.
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    Last edited by Moonfish; 09-27-2021 at 12:49 PM.

  10. #32370
    Player
    SnowVix's Avatar
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    Charming Tulip
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Also what's wrong with people nowadays failing to rescue all 6 prisoners even with 32+ players in the raid?! I remembered having far less in the past but we were still able to rescue all 6 more consistently!
    People fall to call their directions, and fail to communicate that to the party as well. So you get, say, a 46/48 CLL where no one goes Southwest
    (0)

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