Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Rowde]

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It's faster and simpler to just buy up all the crap ppl are selling on the MB for vendor or LESS THAN VENDOR and then donate that to doma for a profit.
Could mention that in the future if some derp ever brings it up again.

Asking ppl to pass on all gear is a little bananas... I even go a little side-eye when ppl ask to pass on a specific piece of gear when they're not playing the job that can need... but if it's just one piece I generally just 'ehhhh' and pass on it.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

"Greed'ing is toxic"

That's one rare find. Your FCmate handled that pretty well.

Personally I just autopilot need and greed everything else.

The only time I passed is when people are pleading for 1 specific piece from a capstone dungeon. We all know how awful RNG can be in capstone dungeon and the fact we are not guaranteed a piece of our chosen class from a clear run.

Also what's wrong with these people kept mentioning WoW-this WoW-that whenever something remotely inconvenient obstruct their 'way of having fun'? -_-

[Herebedragons]

Sorry for harping on a dead horse but one point. People cannot pull ahead of you if you do not let them. :P Just got to be quicker W2W is not just a playstyle it is a way a of life. Hold W till something stops ya either death or a wall.

Clearly, you aren't sorry, Zombie Horse!

Look, I sprint while I pull. If I waste it just to stay ahead of every single moron in the game, I can't sprint while I pull. It's less of a problem when there's a peloton-bot in the party (it's usually me ), but there wasn't one.

And after another weird experience in Akadaemia Anyder where the healer decided to take a tea and twitter break while I was rushing through the first big pull, it has been brought to my attention that no matter what you do, someone will be dissatisfied and tell you that you screwed up. So yeah, I'll just do what I want from now on!

[Awha]

Clearly, you aren't sorry, Zombie Horse!

Look, I sprint while I pull. If I waste it just to stay ahead of every single moron in the game, I can't sprint while I pull. It's less of a problem when there's a peloton-bot in the party (it's usually me ), but there wasn't one.

And after another weird experience in Akadaemia Anyder where the healer decided to take a tea and twitter break while I was rushing through the first big pull, it has been brought to my attention that no matter what you do, someone will be dissatisfied and tell you that you screwed up. So yeah, I'll just do what I want from now on!

What I am saying is if you are pulling quickly then what exactly does an inpatient dps or healer have to pull? Sure you are right some people will never be satisfied but overall unless you are doing something grossly out the norm you should generally have more positive or neutral experiences when it comes to tanking.

From experience issues of people pulling from the tank stem from needless downtime, most people are self-aware when a group cannot handle larger pulls and will play accordingly. Sure you will run into outliers but as mentioned on a general bases if you are playing properly as a tank your negative experiences should be few and far in between. So keep it up.

You will rarely end up with healers like me that will use rescue like a leash and once 5 min pass remove the slow tank.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

To this day, I'm not entirely sure why people settled into this kill order when Mustardseed is the least threatening of the three adds in both phases...assuming people know how to dodge basic telegraphed AoEs.

I'd say both EX bleed out, and because mustard IS the least dangerous. Because two are being tanked, the third has to be not tanked, so you leave mustard untanked and burn mustard.

Most people don't know how to get out of basic avoidable AoE, to be fair. But yes, it's primarily a holdover from EX where Mustard has to die first; much easier to transition from storymode to EX if you teach the same thing for both.

And even people who have no intention of stepping foot into Titania EX follow this, from what I've seen - Crystal DC is the most casual of casual DCs, and yet I've never (until then) seen someone get upset about the kill order of Mustard > Puck > Pease before, in all the years since the trial was first dropped. The most I see is newbies unsure which to hit first, which is why I tend to pre-mark and mention the add kill order at the start. It also helps newbie tanks know to pick up Puck and Pease and keep them away so people who are killing Mustard aren't getting hit with cleaves from a singular tank trying to aggro all of them.

Seen way too many wipes because you'd have 2 DPS on Mustard, 1 on Puck, and the last one + the tanks and heals on Pease. :|

The community really needs to get over their WoW phobia. It's long past the irritation stage and is becoming genuinely, deeply toxic

WoW lives rent-free in most people's heads and it's honestly ridiculous. Game tribalism is stupid, has always been stupid, will always be stupid. And former WoW players who remain obsessed with it like a bad breakup they can't get over are arguably even worse.

It's faster and simpler to just buy up all the crap ppl are selling on the MB for vendor or LESS THAN VENDOR and then donate that to doma for a profit.
Could mention that in the future if some derp ever brings it up again.

Asking ppl to pass on all gear is a little bananas... I even go a little side-eye when ppl ask to pass on a specific piece of gear when they're not playing the job that can need... but if it's just one piece I generally just 'ehhhh' and pass on it.

Honestly I think my friend was just so floored by someone actually acting like this like... for real, in real time, that they didn't really know what to respond with. Though to be fair, she was also focused on actually playing the game and carrying the party DPS, since that DRG certainly wasn't helping. I think all three of them were, considering the tank was barely responding as well and the healer just said absolutely nothing.

But yeah. Normally if someone wants a specific item, I don't mind passing on it unless I too want that specific item. I, myself, tend to try and ask politely if I end up in a dungeon or raid where I wanted a specific piece for a job I didn't queue on (since you never know what roulette's gonna give you). If I don't get it or people aren't willing to pass, that's fine; sometimes you get lucky though and people are cool about it.

But asking people to pass on every single drop in a dungeon just so you can use it for something that has numerous other ways you can progress it with is just... the sheer amount of idiocy and selfishness astounded me. And then to throw a tantrum when someone's like "eh I'll greed them too since I also have need of them" is just. No words, honestly.

That's one rare find. Your FCmate handled that pretty well.

Personally I just autopilot need and greed everything else.

We're both genuinely still wondering if that guy was just trolling for whatever reason. I want to say they were, just from how quickly they escalated to trying to get her kicked, but man... you never know, with this community.

But yeah, unless someone speaks up asking for a specific drop, I just kind of slap need/greed on instinct. GC seals never go out of style.

Sorry for harping on a dead horse but one point. People cannot pull ahead of you if you do not let them. :P Just got to be quicker W2W is not just a playstyle it is a way a of life. Hold W till something stops ya either death or a wall.

Much as I agree with your sentiment, Awha, it ain't worth bringing up and arguing circles about again.

[Cubsbane]

Weird adventures in Weeping City.

In Forgall, we have a lot of deaths, as expected. People are explaining that you have to stand in the green goo for a debuff to survive Mega Death in Alliance chat. Keep in mind, this is explained multiple times, by a few different people, by the time most of the raid is dead.

The goo drops again, Forgall gets ready for Mega Death. Healer rescues mentor(!) DRG into puddle. DRG immediately backflips out of the puddle and dies. I do mean immediately. At first I thought maybe he was intending on jumping into it but got rescued, but then realized it would be impossible because of the direction he jumped out of. Went "[name] why" in chat. "Sorry I haven't done this one in a while".

Yes that's why people were explaining in chat and you got rescued.

Had a healer in my alliance who kept me up tanking him for quite a long time, though. I was DPS. That was fun.

Then in Ozma, an entire Alliance died. I'm not sure how, honestly. Nobody was talking about it in chat, at least not that I could see. Made me sweat a lil.

[Katie_Kitty]

Look, I sprint while I pull. If I waste it just to stay ahead of every single moron in the game, I can't sprint while I pull.

Why do you think you must be ahead of everyone at all times? You really don't... If you're not pulling, then why does it matter? It doesn't at all. I recommend that you drop the ego and focus on getting through the content.

[kiagenwa]

Weird adventures in Weeping City.

In Forgall, we have a lot of deaths, as expected. People are explaining that you have to stand in the green goo for a debuff to survive Mega Death in Alliance chat. Keep in mind, this is explained multiple times, by a few different people, by the time most of the raid is dead.

The goo drops again, Forgall gets ready for Mega Death. Healer rescues mentor(!) DRG into puddle. DRG immediately backflips out of the puddle and dies. I do mean immediately. At first I thought maybe he was intending on jumping into it but got rescued, but then realized it would be impossible because of the direction he jumped out of. Went "[name] why" in chat. "Sorry I haven't done this one in a while".

Yes that's why people were explaining in chat and you got rescued.

Had a healer in my alliance who kept me up tanking him for quite a long time, though. I was DPS. That was fun.

Then in Ozma, an entire Alliance died. I'm not sure how, honestly. Nobody was talking about it in chat, at least not that I could see. Made me sweat a lil.

lol just went through it yesterday. Had no idea about the goo.

[Vyrerus]

Been off playing FFXI again, except for checking in on my submarines. They finally brought back the Cocobolo Lumber, so it was time for me to get some GC Seals for the mountains of Coke and Hardened Sap and stuff I was going to need to make Modified Submarine parts. To dungeons I go! I was also in the process of getting Captain rank in all 3 GCs, so I needed seals for promo too.

Queued into leveling roulette on WHM, get Bardam's Mettle. Tank pulls first two groups. No cooldowns, and managed to die before my first Holy stunned all of the monsters with a Regen and Divine Benison on.

I felt kinda bad, cause I hadn't played in some weeks, so I said my Bad. The tank is like, "I'll just pull smaller I guess." So I say, "Just use your cooldowns sooner." The DPS ran from the first packs as they killed me, so the first pull got dragged back to spawn and we had to deal with it there. We managed OK.

So after seeing what I said, the PLD blows all of his cooldowns BETWEEN pulls. And then continues to pull small. Wearing a hodgepodge of i255/260/270 gear... We get the dungeon done OK, though embarrassingly I actually got locked out on the second boss when the ring AOEs spawn, because the people with them ran their rings on top of me instead of just running together... I still felt shame though.

On the Yol, the PLD and the melee DPS both got charmed by the gaze attack. I kind of felt like it was on purpose, but with a tank willing to blow all cooldowns between pulls... I'm not sure.

Left the dungeon commending the BLM, and thinking to myself, "Why was I so quick to throw myself under the bus, when it was the tank playing poorly that was making things difficult? *sigh*" Guess I should refresh my play at least once a week, heh.

[RobynDaBank]

Honestly a run-of-the-mill incidence that I could have handled better as well to be fair.

Expecting a lower-level dungeon in Leveling Roulette, I queued as SCH - the healer I am taking the longest to learn because shielding in effect should be done as pro-active healing, not reactive, and I need to get used to that. I ended up landing in Dusk Vigil, and my brow began to sweat a little. No problems though, I assured myself, I know this dungeon already somewhat and have even 3-manned it as a healer with 2 damage dealers. 2 people were new to the dungeon and the tank was a bloom. I am not a judgemental person so I did not make much of that, after all I am a Sprout as well.

This run honestly took me back to my WoW days of last year, where as a Discipline Priest I had fewer tools to heal "bad". Somehow, perhaps because my gear was trash and Mind low or just in general, I was really starting to notice when people took damage that was unavoidable. It also felt as if the tank took hefty amounts of damage - when I noticed this previously I would discover few defensives being used but on this occasion I was much too burdened to check every pull - and overall my shields were too puny to make much of an effect. When I play White Mage or even Astrologian, I do not much mind people taking avoidable damage, but given my determination to learn to pre-emptive heal and having overall too few tools to instant heal, I couldn't help mentally chastise myself and the group for these many mistakes. I would feel upset when people took heavy damage from group-wide things or when the tank took multiple busters to the face from big pulls without me being able to keep up, and I would not ever be able to keep people in the safest heal range. It was quite stressing, and with a clumsy last boss where we got Fettered a lot (yet still somehow survived)...

... two "gg!" in chat. The only thing typical to dungeon runs had been said in this case - "hi" and "gg". I do not know why, but my temper had risen a little and I thought to myself good game? I really do not agree!

This also taught me how much I need to re-learn shield healing and watch the boss cast bars properly.