Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Final Steps of Faith on my WHM alt. During the final phase, the other healer gets targeted with the stack marker and, being a sprout, tries to run away. I try to Rescue her back.....and she runs away again, but this time just far enough that I get killed along with her. And then it bounces around and kills four more people. Paladin and summoner survive....and the summoner raises the other healer.

Ah well, still got the clear.

[Alxyzntlct]

Yes yes… Just remove more of healers’ toolkit. Their mere job is just to heal and go merry way without anything else to do while pressing 1-2 button endlessly.

Nevermind the fun; ‘most’? I’ve seen them used more appropriately than not. And that is without accounting the amount of healers I’ve encountered that simply do not use it because either they do not know the skill exist nor even bother to rescue because apparently when they rescue a player who’s practically doomed to kiss to floor with or without rescue, the whole blame suddenly shifts to the healer due to how their corpse flings across the arena—making it looked like a misused Rescue. I’ve been blamed for this a few times out of genuine intent to pull them out of certain death because ”I just have to try”-way of thinking. Nowadays if I know a mech will kill off a player & nothing will save them, I’ll just leave them to die a few secs to raise them after or worse, just fire away at boss if they’re near death.

The only time I actually rescue another player to abyss is to force a restart in the point where everything are pretty much unsalvageable (only myself and 1 tryhard DPS left alive while 6 other dead).

Spiteful & troll rescue are pretty rare, at least to me. I’m not counting those who do this to their friends for giggles though.

I've been playing this game for a few months now, slowly but surely making my way through and I've been leveling jobs of all 3 types; DPS, Healer, and Tanking.

I agree on only 1 point; when Healing, I do find it useful everyone once in a while to save someone that's about to get nuked, IF I can get to it in time.

However, and I'm not exaggerating here, I've only ever seen it used helpfully once while going through the leveling-up dungeons raids, and that was to pull another player from a fire. Every other instance I've seen thus far, playing as either DPS or Tanking and even then mostly when Tanking, has been a healer deciding to move me where they wanted to move me, "because reasons".

Literally not once while tanking was it done to actually save me. It's only ever been used to reposition me to where the Over-Powered healer has decided I should be instead, which has included dragging me into new mobs or to force me into a specific AOE. Again, "because reasons".

While on one hand I too like the idea of the ability, the simple fact that it's consistently abused by people makes me feel like it should just be removed at this point. Yes, yes, removing more of the healers' toolkit does suck (I feel that as I too play healer), but conversely, a large portion of the playerbase is showing they're neither mature nor responsible enough to use it properly without being massively rude to other players.

[Jettinson]

Drama like this is why I wish they'd remove Rescue from the game. Most people just use it for griefing. Or at the very least give us the ability to turn off the effects in options. I can't count the number of times I've seen a healer drag off some DPS into the depths of the abyss because "xD so funni guise so random you died haha" or just to be spiteful.

If you see people constantly griefing with the skill and not help team might as well report and move on.

It was long ago but I had 2 healers in Hell's Kier Normal that absolutely ruined my first time running there by doing a duo rescue on me MT and my friend OT in the pit and immediately text "Arm's Lenght" like they tried to disguise as I messed up some mechanic
We ended up wiping and they just left.

Does that mean I want Rescue deleted? Lol no, it is a good tool for healers, I've seen more people using it for good against the few for trolling.
Limit Break 3 RDM does more hurt for me than Rescue honestly

[Caurcas]

A few day ago I learned that as a WHM you can do both the tank's job and pull wall to wall while synced in Swallow's Compass. Also if you are a tank, please don't get mad if a healer pulls mobs for you, they are just trying to help you. No need to start insulting and threatening to report and refusing to tank.

[Tarryme]

I'm not enjoying pro level 50 dungeons. I don't know the tricks of the dungeon, everyone rush, I get shouted at and I die a lot. I try my best but best not good enough. Not feeling like a game anymore.

[Cubsbane]

Just got out of The Weeping City of Mhach. Finally, after 6 consecutive runs of Syrcus (I'm not even on that step of my relic yet.....), I am free. But what an odd group it is.

First thing I notice is that one of the two WHMs keeps applying Regen. Individually. To every person. Even between fights. Even when nobody is taking damage. I suggest Medica II but this falls on deaf ears. At first I thought maybe they were bored but, nope, they're new. Cool cool cool. At least they're healing at all, I guess.

After a few rough fights, and a headstone pulled so early that no markers were placed and 1 (!!!) person was on the C side, barely saving us, we get to Ozma. Now, until this point, the PLD has tanked. I check and both the PLD and GNB have their tank stances on. Guess we're waiting for everyone to arrive. ... Everyone's arrived. ......

After many seconds of dead silence and no movement on the part of either tank, I turn on my stance and decide to pull. Later on, after we defeat the Shade, the PLD(?) has gotten enmity from me (unsure if intentionally) and then... dies. Alright, thanks? At least I was second on the list already.

The final boss is messy but overall not terrible, especially as the PLD decides to initiate a Ready Check and pull timer instead of just sitting around. I'm actually kinda bummed because I wanted to try to move Calofisteri around so she wouldn't hit anyone. Oh well!

[ForctyusGold]

well i dont know if it was possible. but if i wasnt a healer it might happen, a wipe in Toto-Rak. i mean when you tell tank to use aoe or anything or just watch when there are more then one enemy to look if enmity is on you and not on dps or heal. or telling them at final boss to attack tail or anything and not having that green puddle all over the area... this game seriously need some gating, like you will not be able to join any roulette or duty without doing Hall of the Novice, which could be upgraded because current desing is bad i think. more to actually teach you how to play. i dont mean single pulls but if you see your party is capable of bigger and youre in Ala Mhigo, you should know what this game offer when bigger pulls . or healer not knowing there is esuna . the worst thing nobody responded when i told them something or actually when they asked they didnt wait /did it wrong anyway. people really should more care about how they are playing.

[gotaname1]

This happened a few days ago when I joined a e9s LOOT party through the pf that was advertised as [Duty Complete]. Here is the chattranscript copied from a screen I took so I could report it (if that even helps).

*Entering the instance*
[5]Healer 2: 21 sec cd please
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: kk
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: Was this a clear for 1?
[1]Me: Tank and healers E and W
[1]Me: It was loot I think
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: yeah farm
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: Says someone hasn't cleared
[8]DPS4: Healers usually east west
[3]Trap Tank 2: that's me
[1]Me: Does that mean its a trap party? xD
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: How far have you seen..?
[1]Me: I don't mind wiping as long as we clear
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: It's not.
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: Whenever you are ready Trap Tank 2
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: How far have you seen *tank job that Trap Tank 2 plays*
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: I'm tank swapping at NE btw
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: mark the healers pls
[3]Trap Tank 2: ive seen a video
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: That's not my question
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: chill bro we good
[3]Trap Tank 2: ive not done this
[1]Me: what is your prog Trap Tank 2?

*Perceptive DPS leaves instance and group*
[3]Trap Tank 2: i haven't done it
[1]Me: like, at all?
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: he's fine, he's in my vc
[3]Trap Tank 2: no

*2 replacement dps join*
[1]Me: How is this a farm party if a tank has not even ever done 1% of the fight?
[6]Replacement DPS 1: oh?
[8]Replacement DPS 2: This is a farm no? I hope people know the fight lol
[1]Me: yeah I'm out as well. I'm not really up for carrying a fresh prog under the guise of loot

That party lead had his pf up for a short while (dps are easy to come by). Someone else I know spotted the same party lead in pf later still hosting a e9s loot party but this time with the following description:
[Loot][Duty Complete]
SPEED RUN LOOT // TOWER ???? UP = KICK

GCBTW

[Frizze]

Here is the chattranscript copied from a screen I took so I could report it (if that even helps).

If you mean report it to the GMs, i doubt anything would come of it. The party leader is free to let anyone into the party that he wants. Unless im mistaken, the only thing that could be reportable was if there was an agreement over chat about something tangible(like loot distribution) that was then reneged on.

If you mean report it to us, it helps a little. I mean, we all know that trap parties exist and that they often disguise themselves as something else. But sharing experiences of things to look out for and venting over frustrating people is for sure helpful. From the sounds of it, you dodged a bullet.

[Vahlnir]

This happened a few days ago when I joined a e9s LOOT party through the pf that was advertised as [Duty Complete]. Here is the chattranscript copied from a screen I took so I could report it (if that even helps).

*Entering the instance*
[5]Healer 2: 21 sec cd please
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: kk
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: Was this a clear for 1?
[1]Me: Tank and healers E and W
[1]Me: It was loot I think
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: yeah farm
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: Says someone hasn't cleared
[8]DPS4: Healers usually east west
[3]Trap Tank 2: that's me
[1]Me: Does that mean its a trap party? xD
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: How far have you seen..?
[1]Me: I don't mind wiping as long as we clear
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: It's not.
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: Whenever you are ready Trap Tank 2
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: How far have you seen *tank job that Trap Tank 2 plays*
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: I'm tank swapping at NE btw
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: mark the healers pls
[3]Trap Tank 2: ive seen a video
[7]Perceptive DPS 3: That's not my question
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: chill bro we good
[3]Trap Tank 2: ive not done this
[1]Me: what is your prog Trap Tank 2?

*Perceptive DPS leaves instance and group*
[3]Trap Tank 2: i haven't done it
[1]Me: like, at all?
[2]Party Lead Tank 1: he's fine, he's in my vc
[3]Trap Tank 2: no

*2 replacement dps join*
[1]Me: How is this a farm party if a tank has not even ever done 1% of the fight?
[6]Replacement DPS 1: oh?
[8]Replacement DPS 2: This is a farm no? I hope people know the fight lol
[1]Me: yeah I'm out as well. I'm not really up for carrying a fresh prog under the guise of loot

That party lead had his pf up for a short while (dps are easy to come by). Someone else I know spotted the same party lead in pf later still hosting a e9s loot party but this time with the following description:
[Loot][Duty Complete]
SPEED RUN LOOT // TOWER ???? UP = KICK

GCBTW

So basically it's your average day in the PF. Yeah, I've seen this before. I'd imagine most people have who use it. Just gotta ignore them and move on, really. It's the best approach. Maybe blacklist them if that's your thing. If I join a farm I expect it to be just that, so I feel you. But there's nothing to report here, so I think it's a waste of your time as well as the GM's.