Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SturmChurro]

The real reason to use swiftcast on glare is to keep the gcd rolling while giving white mage an opportunity to continue attacking while on the move.

Typically it's something to be used in an optimized setting where you know your allies aren't in danger of getting bopped by a stray aoe, not in a group of randoms where anyone could eat several mechanics and end up lying face down on the ground waiting for a rez.

So should I have used my swiftcast to raise players who die immediately after being raised instead? I suppose an argument could be made, that on occasion, they might be able to do more damage than my singular glare - if they didn't keep dying immediately.

Let me tell you all a story, a story of Shadowkeeper. A different party. It was just me and the tanks. I used my swiftcast to raise the other healer about a dozen times. We get LB3, I finally use this LB3. Everyone is back up! .... EXCEPT wait! They all die several seconds after being raised to avoidable AoE wasting our LB3, straight back to me and the tanks, the three of us against the Shadowkeeper! Glare would have been more useful on a swiftcasted glare, huh? Glare instead of wasting the time casting that LB3!

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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Yikes, that definitely stings.

Apparently, due to the way some skirmishes (?) and CE spawns by farming magitek mobs, this kind of 'pull mobs into skirmish' behavior sort of ramped up. It doesn't help that most, if not -all- of those skirmishes seem to always spawn near bunch of them. In a way, it sorta helps everybody: to help spawn CEs + probably few cluster drops + skirmish credit. Unfortunately either some players was rushing without being aware of their surrounding, or simply couldn't read well that they thought they can just pull -any- mobs including non-magitek IV/V mobs.

For a few times I've let some random puller die by their own V golem in third zone while I was tanking. Thankfully I saw that one coming and immediately switch to single target rotations. There wasn't many players in that skirmish at that time so I figured not many would wanna risk to join in bursting the V golem. Indeed, NONE of them helped that random puller. I was chuckling looking at them jumping next to me as if begging me to pull the mob off them. Nah, not gonna do that mate.

[SturmChurro]

To me, it looks like you were talking with some men-children. Silly, irresponsible and idiotic. All in all low-quality human beings.

Bozja chat (both SF and Zadnor).. can be something. This is the kind of stuff you can expect in Zadnor:



Hilarious! Do you think the GMs make an exception with Bozja chatter? Otherwise, why are players behaving in chat like this?

Yikes, that definitely stings.

Apparently, due to the way some skirmishes (?) and CE spawns by farming magitek mobs, this kind of 'pull mobs into skirmish' behavior sort of ramped up. It doesn't help that most, if not -all- of those skirmishes seem to always spawn near bunch of them. In a way, it sorta helps everybody: to help spawn CEs + probably few cluster drops + skirmish credit. Unfortunately either some players was rushing without being aware of their surrounding, or simply couldn't read well that they thought they can just pull -any- mobs including non-magitek IV/V mobs.

For a few times I've let some random puller die by their own V golem in third zone while I was tanking. Thankfully I saw that one coming and immediately switch to single target rotations. There wasn't many players in that skirmish at that time so I figured not many would wanna risk to join in bursting the V golem. Indeed, NONE of them helped that random puller. I was chuckling looking at them jumping next to me as if begging me to pull the mob off them. Nah, not gonna do that mate.

To be frank, it's griefing. There is no real purpose in bringing half of Zadnor's Sasquatches to a FATE where players are aoeing, especially if it's by a player who does not intend to actually hold aggro on them, and will not assist another unfortunate player who was just grinding FATEs. Neither by pulling this mob off of them, healing them, or even raising them. This happens far too often, and much of the general chatter in Bozja tells me many of these players probably do not care, and some really do probably try to get others killed. It's a complete lack of respect, and utter disregard for everyone but themselves. In my opinion.

Good on you. A player like that would have probably left you to die to their pull anyway.

[BaconBits]

So should I have used my swiftcast to raise players who die immediately after being raised instead? I suppose an argument could be made, that on occasion, they might be able to do more damage than my singular glare - if they didn't keep dying immediately.

Let me tell you all a story, a story of Shadowkeeper. A different party. It was just me and the tanks. I used my swiftcast to raise the other healer about a dozen times. We get LB3, I finally use this LB3. Everyone is back up! .... EXCEPT wait! They all die several seconds after being raised to avoidable AoE wasting our LB3, straight back to me and the tanks, the three of us against the Shadowkeeper! Glare would have been more useful on a swiftcasted glare, huh? Glare instead of wasting the time casting that LB3!

Hey if they wanna decide they're too cool to wait for heals before their transcendence buff wears off or run right back into the floor's loving embrace, then by all means glare away. They're just nourishment for the blood lily at that point.

[Cincierta]

I'm not sure what it is with some people this week.

I queued up for alliance roulette on my alt sch for exp and some mogtomes, I get Void Ark. The party dps is almost entirely compromised of SAMs, and I have an AST for a co-healer. I notice they're on noct stance, but they're watching the cutscene. Maybe they'll notice they have a sch co-healer and switch, I thought.

Nope, they don't bother. We plow through the trash and get to the first boss, and I see they're still in noct stance. 'k. I ask them to switch after this boss, and I get this:



Oh, so not only is the AST ignorant, but they're also holding themselves on a pedestal. Noice! /s They're also overwriting my shields, which makes me even more annoyed.
Before I could reply, one of the dps pipes up in your usual cringy fashion:



I already hate this healer now. After the boss dies, he finally switches to diurnal, thereby making my whole kit at 60 useful once again. I'll be glad when they rid 14 of Nocturnal because of these people.

We continue on through the trash and finally get to the next plant boss. Naturally some people tried to greed Shockwave Stomp and end up dead, to which I'm treated with this raise macro from my co-healer:



I winced. I know this is a widespread problem, but dang people. A similar situation happens on Tentacle Boi, and I felt more and more filled with cringe. Though once the second to last boss was down, I saw the end in sight. There was a light at the end of this tunnel! We engage Echidna and some time into the fight I realize my party likes to collect Vuln stacks. Hello darkness my old friend.



After what felt like forever, the last boss finally died, minion drops and I roll Need on it when suddenly our healer hit us with this:



They used it at the start and at the end. Naturally the f*cker won the minion. I comm the non-cringy, quiet SAM and left.

tl;dr: be considerate of your co-healer's job and don't use cringy af macros to raise like that person did. Thanks.

[Nanchi]

You know, there is a reason why I decided to disable the party chat in almost every content. Ignorance is truly bliss as they say.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Had a group in Rabanastre yesterday that had such low DPS, the first boss actually survived past the frog phase. I had actually forgotten about the sanuwa adds, it's been so long since I saw them last.

Of course, I watched that phase from the floor, because the MT died to suffocation during the frog phase, I got aggro, my group's healers were asleep, and the other two tanks couldn't be bothered until I and a few other people were dead.

[Cincierta]

Had a group in Rabanastre yesterday that had such low DPS, the first boss actually survived past the frog phase. I had actually forgotten about the sanuwa adds, it's been so long since I saw them last.

Wait, she spawns adds after the toads?

[Avidria]

Oh man the Zadnor talk on an earlier page reminded me of this absolute gem of a conversation that happened yesterday


Died to the time boss fate I was laughing so hard

[Lilyth]

But it's pretty silly when I see healers who act like they're above needing to hardcast raise in a dungeon (because they just had to keep swiftcast on cooldown for those instant glares, for what purpose, who knows), or healers who think day 1 savage prog is the appropriate time to demand the rest of the group adjusts so they can use every single GCD for damage and not healing.

Which is ridiculous, because if they play like that they are effectively losing rDPS and thus not even helping the group clear content faster. Compared to heal bots they are the other side of the spectrum, the healers who don't heal and don't even do DPS properly. The worse kind of healers you can get in savage raids.