Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Mesarthim]

Speaking of red mage salvaging:

So 6/8 of my E10N roulette died at 4%. Other red mage used the limit break despite a melee being in the party. They used it when the aoe circles went out, everyone but myself and the MT died. I rez mage clutched it after the other red mage murdered everyone through their eyes.

[TheMightyMollusk]

When you do the CS skip is the party made aware aomeone has done it? Does it turn the group into a light party?

The whole party will see the "[Boss Arena] will be sealed in 15 seconds!" popup during the cut scene.

[DarkMasamune]

The whole party will see the "[Boss Arena] will be sealed in 15 seconds!" popup during the cut scene.

Yeah, and you see the speech bubble pop-up on the screen at the top (whatever Nero says at the start of the fight when you engage him for exemple) so you really can't miss it.

[Awha]

Yeah, and you see the speech bubble pop-up on the screen at the top (whatever Nero says at the start of the fight when you engage him for exemple) so you really can't miss it.

That is what I figured I was just confused how they knew they were not doing the DC trick.

Since I figured that was the only way skip the CS. Though I do know SE does take those reports pretty seriously cause I got in trouble for doing it. So no worries on the report front. If they were skipping SE does take action. I was a nonbeliever until it happened to me .

[PrimeAnubis]

In Mt.Gulg I had a tank that wanted to speed run so they pulled everything yet didn't use any mitigation. When I asked if they could use mitigation they proceeded to tell me to shutup and heal. Don't get me wrong I can handle a big mob, but healers have dps skills for a reason. I'm always coming across toxic tanks when I join a Duty Finder.

[Mirhd]

I've noticed when I'm healing that (too often) I tend to be the only healer hard casting Raise if more than one person is down. If both of us have already used Swiftcast to rez someone previously, I hard cast... yet I've seen fellow healers wait until Swiftcast is off CD to rez someone. For goodness sake, Swiftcast is a 60 second CD! It's quicker to just hard cast Raise! Wait for a lul in the aoe, then cast it! The sooner the dps/whoever is off the floor, the better!

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I've noticed when I'm healing that (too often) I tend to be the only healer hard casting Raise if more than one person is down. If both of us have already used Swiftcast to rez someone previously, I hard cast... yet I've seen fellow healers wait until Swiftcast is off CD to rez someone. For goodness sake, Swiftcast is a 60 second CD! It's quicker to just hard cast Raise! Wait for a lul in the aoe, then cast it! The sooner the dps/whoever is off the floor, the better!

Personally in 8-man parties, I tend to be the slower of two healer so I don’t usually hardcast raises. Except when I’m on AST because [Lightspeed]. Then again, more than often 2nd healer ignores my attempt, with or without cooldowns. I’ve been paired with more insistent “I want to heal/raise this player!!”-cohealer than the ones that actually observant enough of what I’m doing, hence the tendency. Besides, what’s the point of two healers hardcasting if their raises are for one same dead player?
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Anyway, one more story to the collection: Emanation

Ever seen two players dancing to each other while being confused where they’re putting down the markers? This seems to be the perfect trial to witness it. The following are the 'mental distress communication' that essentially plays in my head when I saw two players doing exactly this.

”Please, move a little bit!”
> “No no! You move!!”
“Nooo!! Stop following me!!”
> “NOO, -YOU- STOP FOLLOWING!!”

KABOOM
You have my sympathy, BRD & RDM.

[Liam_Harper]

yet I've seen fellow healers wait until Swiftcast is off CD to rez someone. For goodness sake, Swiftcast is a 60 second CD! It's quicker to just hard cast Raise! Wait for a lul in the aoe, then cast it! The sooner the dps/whoever is off the floor, the better!

Waiting for swiftcast is fairly normal practice depending on how long is left on the cd. If it's 30+ sec, obviously you bite the bullet and hardcast, but if it's something like 12 sec it's better to wait. Losing 8 sec of uptime to get a dps with weakness debuff up isn't worth it compared to just spamming Glare for 12 sec which is also less risk. Then there's situations where a dps has max stacks of weakness and obviously doesn't know the fight well and while you don't want to leave them dead out of spite, they do drop a bit in rez priority and you might wait a little more on Swift. You need to be certain there's a lull in the mechanics too, being interrupted by having to move at 6 sec or letting someone else die is quite common and a nasty loss. There's a lot of decision making and factors in smart use of Raise.

Also ideally WHM would be the second priority to use Raise since they often have to clip for swiftcast and their GCD is worth the most damage. Lots of times I'm playing AST and the WHM is practically instant on the Raise and wasting mine.

[Mirhd]

Waiting for swiftcast is fairly normal practice depending on how long is left on the cd. If it's 30+ sec, obviously you bite the bullet and hardcast, but if it's something like 12 sec it's better to wait. Losing 8 sec of uptime to get a dps with weakness debuff up isn't worth it compared to just spamming Glare for 12 sec which is also less risk. Then there's situations where a dps has max stacks of weakness and obviously doesn't know the fight well and while you don't want to leave them dead out of spite, they do drop a bit in rez priority and you might wait a little more on Swift. You need to be certain there's a lull in the mechanics too, being interrupted by having to move at 6 sec or letting someone else die is quite common and a nasty loss. There's a lot of decision making and factors in smart use of Raise.

Also ideally WHM would be the second priority to use Raise since they often have to clip for swiftcast and their GCD is worth the most damage. Lots of times I'm playing AST and the WHM is practically instant on the Raise and wasting mine.

None of this was mentioned because I thought it was fairly obvious, but yes, if it's only a few seconds, (and it isn't a stacked weakness debuff. again, obvious) and I already mentioned a lull, so not sure why you pointed that out. I'm also more lenient on players who are running something for the first time regardless.

I've seen much, much longer than 30 seconds go by without a Raise (as I've said), which is ridiculous, and a single weakness debuff isn't world ending. A healer's primary role is healing, not dps. There's really no excuse.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

None of this was mentioned because I thought it was fairly obvious, but yes, if it's only a few seconds, (and it isn't a stacked weakness debuff. again, obvious) and I already mentioned a lull, so not sure why you pointed that out. I'm also more lenient on players who are running something for the first time regardless.

I've seen much, much longer than 30 seconds go by without a Raise (as I've said), which is ridiculous, and a single weakness debuff isn't world ending. A healer's primary role is healing, not dps. There's really no excuse.

If someone is dead on the floor repeatedly, I won't even bother raising them half the time. It's better to focus on dpsing and healing the people actually alive than it is to waste gcds trying to res someone without Swiftcast. You also mention you tend to hard res anyway, so why should the other healer bother in that situation?