Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Mahoukenshi]

I have a short story to tell. I usually don't player healer and decided for no apparent reason to unlock AST on one of my characters after returning since 5.2 and needing to relearn the game.
Leveling roulette gave me Haukke Manor: Gladiator, Red Mage and Ninja. Tank stated it's his first time, all fine. I stated "Nervous healer here. Trying my best." Yeah... For the first few trashmobs no tank stance in sight, but we somehow managed to pull through. Tank asked if he was doing something wrong. "Not really", I "You forgot to use your tank stance". A big question mark formed on his head. He wasn't sure if he had the skill already, yet after some trial and error, it was there :3. All mini bosses were fine, I focus more on healing and cards due to the opening sentence. At the final boss, nobody seemed to mind putting out the candles/lights and the late-coming adds overwhelmed the tank (who didn't use his tank skill as much as he should but I forgot about it too). The NIN saved the day with limit break.

I sincerely hope that our dear tank didn't play till Haukke on this job because during the other clutter dungeons, someone would surely noted his lack of "Iron Will".

Oof, I knew why I didn't choose roulette with my 70 WHM as with my bad luck I'd get some late dungeon and would have effed the run majorly up .

[Cubsbane]

Reasons why I want the CT raids either nuked from orbit, or (more easily done) adjust the ilevel sync so that they can't be entirely steamrolled. Void Ark suffers from a similar problem. But Rabanastre shows you can still steamroll without something being absolutely mindless. You ignore mechanics in Rabanastre or Lighthouse, you are far more likely to wipe or at best hobble your way through.

I'd argue that Void Ark is still somewhat difficult just due to the infrequency of it popping up. At the very least, Dun Scaith can cause issues even when almost everyone has cleared it because you can go months without doing it and then suddenly oh crap what were the mechanics again?

But yes, I also wish LotA and ST were still somewhat demanding. The most you can hope for is issues cropping up due to people being utterly clueless, and that's not really the brand of excitement I'm looking for in this game. I want to have fun doing stuff, not mindlessly do the level 50 DRG rotation as nothing of consequence happens in the background.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I'd argue that Void Ark is still somewhat difficult just due to the infrequency of it popping up.

Weeping City of Mhach and Dun Scaith, certainly. Void Ark itself, ehhh.... slightly less braindead than LotA/ST? But not by a lot. It's the easiest of the three so it often falls under the "turn your brain off and steamroll" category. I only tend to be happy to get it just because it's a break from the aforementioned braindead raids. x.x (should have specified meant specifically Void Ark the raid, not Void Ark the series, my bad!)

[Kennar]

Just to reference a few earlier posts--I don't know if I can call it a trend, but I've been noticing more healers putting a HoT on me after we kill a trash pack when I'm at >90% health. Aside from being unnecessary, it normally isn't a big problem. However, once in the Relict the healer kept doing that, and as soon as I got within aggro range the mobs made a beeline for him. Then, instead of bringing the aggro to me when I stopped, he parked well outside of my AoE radius, forcing me to go to him to grab the mobs that are gnawing off his face, stringing out the main pack and making life harder for the DPS. And then he got mad at me because I started clicking off Regen before pulling.

[Recon1o6]

I'd argue that Void Ark is still somewhat difficult just due to the infrequency of it popping up. At the very least, Dun Scaith can cause issues even when almost everyone has cleared it because you can go months without doing it and then suddenly oh crap what were the mechanics again?

But yes, I also wish LotA and ST were still somewhat demanding. The most you can hope for is issues cropping up due to people being utterly clueless, and that's not really the brand of excitement I'm looking for in this game. I want to have fun doing stuff, not mindlessly do the level 50 DRG rotation as nothing of consequence happens in the background.

I have never seen a wipe on void ark unless it was failed dps check on echinida
Wiping city has some genuinely difficult mechanics (hence the nickname) but everyone fails dun scaith because not only is it infrequent, people don't od it because its 1. not fun and 2. Huge amounts of bs instant kills or messy hitboxes dealing high damage and vuln stacs and 3. weird aoes

btw, I've known WHY this happens ever since HW. I absolutely hate the fishing some people do for the braindead raids. If I want braindead I will go into a dungeon >>

I'm in agreement with kaoru, nuke them from orbit, put em in msq roulette, lower the ilvl so it cant be cheesed. SOMETHING to break up crystal tower roulette's monotony of having no danger and 2/3 of my job hotbar greyed out

[RobinMalvin]

Matoya's Relict, party me as DNC, PLD, WHM and RDM. I prepped Standard Step before first boss, tank pulled, Standard Finish unleashed and... I got aggro?? Meanwhile the tank was jumping in a corner Shield Lob-ing, finally managed to regain aggro when Hard Rock tankbuster was already half-cast. Needless to say, I died.

After noticing no DoT besides Glare, PLD's full MP and ever full stack of Atonement, I clicked leave button. Wasn't in the best mood to deal with buffoonery in the latest dungeon.

[ReynTime]

Group wipes ONCE in E12 (normal): 1 healer immediately quits. Raid is pretty much over and everyone starts leaving because your highness decided we all should be punished with more wait time because they can't handle a wipe or two in the latest normal raid.

[SturmChurro]

It's like I am the one at fault here. I was being actually insulted, called names, etc. But sure I am the one at wrong here. I could have reported them, that's how bad. I was never aggressive once in any of my chat messages, nor was I spewing profanity like some of these people. Maybe I should have included some of the chat logs, but I would have had to censor not only the names, but the chat itself.

SturmChurro... It's like when you are driving, you need to drive to the condition of the road, slowing down and going carefully in snow and rain, and going normal speed with the top down and a song on your lips when things are sunny and fine. Road rage and horn honking don't make that bad road any smoother.

If the party is not up to elementary school skill, slow down. The healer accidentally healing themselves is a probably indication they are a learner healer who is shaky and panicked, likely forgetting to target you when their "oh-darn" button needed pressing.

Yep, it's a pain when you want to chain pull a room to the other wall and get back to standing around in Limsa, but sometimes if the window lickers don't have the skill you just need to smile, slowdown, and go kindergarten mode so when the passengers with you throw up all over the place it doesn't splatter all over you.

So SturmChurro, take careful steps when you see that green vomit telegraph. Leave yourself enough room for each puddle as the passengers chain barf the dungeon.

That healer was more than capable of healing TWO packs (when they weren't healing themselves), and the second healer who "wasn't comfortable" had a simple job healing the actual big pull. Anyway, I WAS pulling small - with the second healer, after that first big pull. A DPS was killing me (us) instead (Dzemael Darkhold), by literally going downstairs on their own and pulling everything else, including multiple frogs. So, that really took the cake when I got blamed for dying there.

Every time? All the time? Like, even during fights? I can understand some tanks clicking off a pre-pull regen because it can cause hiccups with aggro management while collecting the mobs. But then again deeps can rip off aggro while pulling too, and a good tank can deal with it. If you clicked off my regen after arriving at the kill spot or during a boss fight though, I'd be like "hey, why do you do that? Please stop."


I consider that to be mildly rude and try to check that everyone is in the boss room or clearly on their way before I pull the final boss. Someone standing still outside the room is probably in a cutscene, and a quick glance at the party list will confirm that. If I do accidentally pull while someone's in a cutscene I offer a quick apology.

No. This person was putting regen on me 100% of the time, as in well before even pulling. As in, literally 100% of the time, I never have it off. "A good tank", really? I have tanked well over a thousand dungeons. I have the tank mount(s) to prove it. I didn't get them from extremes, I got them from dungeons. This is abnormal. I click off regen, in general, when it's before a pull.

Ironically, I had accidentally pulled while someone was in a cutscene AND offered a quick apology. So that's a hilarious retort.

Just to reference a few earlier posts--I don't know if I can call it a trend, but I've been noticing more healers putting a HoT on me after we kill a trash pack when I'm at >90% health. Aside from being unnecessary, it normally isn't a big problem. However, once in the Relict the healer kept doing that, and as soon as I got within aggro range the mobs made a beeline for him. Then, instead of bringing the aggro to me when I stopped, he parked well outside of my AoE radius, forcing me to go to him to grab the mobs that are gnawing off his face, stringing out the main pack and making life harder for the DPS. And then he got mad at me because I started clicking off Regen before pulling.

This is what happens all the time - They won't run back to me if I lose a couple adds, NO! They are going to run off 40 feet away, keep running away FROM ME. It's annoying. I don't know what it is with white mages nowadays, but they seem to think having regen 100% of the time, is a necessity.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

they seem to think having regen 100% of the time, is a necessity.

It's not a necessity, but it does makes lives easier... if only they don't do the following:

They won't run back to me if I lose a couple adds, NO! They are going to run off 40 feet away, keep running away FROM ME.

/shrug

So I have a bunch of stories to put up but to savor the fun I'll choose one at a time... this time I'm here with Alliance Roulette: The Wiping City of Mhach
Rolled as an RDM for the AiE. Surprise! Not a CT raid! Yay!

2nd boss, I assume everybody knows how to deal with the Mega Death mechanic. But apparently people are dying not from failing mechanic or stepping on bad stuffs. They die from lack of healing! 'Scusami, healers? What are you doing? I know I'm not a fan of overhealers, but why are you even rolling as a healer if you're not gonna heal the unavoidable damages? Oh well! [Vercure], you finally have some work to do! I saw the [Hell Wind] cast coming up (The 'reduce all HP to 1-10' raidwide), I prepare myself for the worst. Indeed it came. They weren't prepared and let the tank die. Without tank stances from two other group it proceed to beat up the next on aggro list: me. Fortunately I healed myself quick enough until another tank decide to [Provoke] the voidsent. Down they go.

Last boss, up against Beyonce haircuts we go. For some reason the 3 tanks decided to SPIN THE BOSS AROUND as it cleaves the raid. Me? I stood very close, well inside Calofisteri gigantic hitbox and only did sidesteps to avoid cleaves as I cracked seeing players were dropping left and right. I'm not sure how the other group's doing. There were multiple deaths, but my group's healer were definitely could not grasp the importance of cleansing the bleed debuff after each cleaves. Mooore [Vercure]...but yeah, only for the tank and myself.

Surprisingly despite the chaotic run nobody complained in the alliance chat or at least say something like "Oi tank please stop voking war" or something along that line. It was a good laughter, nonetheless.

[tdb]

No. This person was putting regen on me 100% of the time, as in well before even pulling. As in, literally 100% of the time, I never have it off. "A good tank", really? I have tanked well over a thousand dungeons. I have the tank mount(s) to prove it. I didn't get them from extremes, I got them from dungeons. This is abnormal. I click off regen, in general, when it's before a pull.

Sure, keeping regen on all the time is unnecessary. But is that some kind of insurmountable problem for you? A good tank should be able to handle the pull even with regen on.

Ironically, I had accidentally pulled while someone was in a cutscene AND offered a quick apology. So that's a hilarious retort.

And how was I supposed to know that when you didn't write it in your post?