You ever see a tank that consciously made the decision to queue as one but never wants to turn on stance and pull the boss, and tends to just stand around awkwardly until the other tank gets annoyed with waiting and turns on stance and pulls the boss?
Yeahhh ended up with one of those
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I do not. This person was probably insulted, at (rightful) criticism, of their tanking. was fuming about it the entire dungeon, and waited until the very end to open up. If someone has something to say, they should say it during the dungeon, and risk the kick - they will be getting banned anyway. Waiting until the end, is laughable.
WHM | RDM | DNC
Or they could have waited until the end of the run since as you said they have nothing to lose at that point. No one died, and responding in the moment could run the risk of causing a needless back and forth and would simply waste time. Granted, not saying what they said was okay, or how they tanked was proper. Just saying I have noticed that when I heal tanks that never use cooldowns during large pulls some mistake them being able to do it as their own ability when it is more so the dps and heals. That said if they have gone many dungeons with the same tanking style when someone points out their mistakes sure one could say they lashed out due to being insulted or they could also say they lashed out cause they thought the person was being needlessly nitpicky.
Though I do agree waiting till the end is petty and childish, but one cannot argue that waiting till the end also mitigates any chance of conflict and also results in the person getting the last word. Which allows them to spin the encounter anyway they so desire when it comes to how the engagement ended. Though yeah they will get a suspension most differently for this no doubt about that. I am not doubting that he may not have been insulted, but I could also see this as an action of someone that was not insulted more so rather not just deal with a person that they viewed as overly nitpicky or annoying. So they just kept their mouth shut until the end.
As they mentioned no one died, so maybe in his head he was like wish this person would shut up and just do their job. Not justifying the action, though I do not think what they said should be considered to the degree of abuse as some in the forum may feel. Though that is a topic for another day. Still report worthy though.
Last edited by Awha; 01-24-2021 at 05:01 AM.
This person got angry and threw a tantrum, like a little boy - simple as that. This is not being edgy either, it was out of pure malice. What was said makes me highly doubt they didn't want conflict, no they just didn't want to get kicked, and wanted room to say whatever they wanted to, no matter how vile, at the very end. It's not being "nitpicky" to ask a tank to use their cd's. It shouldn't even have to be asked in the first place.
WHM | RDM | DNC
That may be true, I am not in the persons head. Guess might just be in my nature to rarely think an action is done out of pure malice. Though I agree it is not nitpicky to ask a tank to use their cooldowns, or ask a healer to do damage. Though the reality is within this community when you can go x amount of levels and runs without anyone saying anything and getting carried through content I could just see how telling someone to use their cooldowns or even dps could be seen as nitpicky cause from their experience maybe they got to level 50 doing just that and no one said anything.
Overall I agree though things like that should not have to be said, and people should respect one another and not throw insults at others for whatever reason be it they were offended, or wanted to cause them some form of emotional anguish and pain. Though I might just be projecting here cause in the past even after asking a ninja to use their AoE they refused, so at the end after they said GG they had fun. I told them would have had more fun watching them jug some bleach. I was annoyed and frustrated, and was not thinking. What I said not was based around malice or the intent to cause harm in anyway, was simply said out of frustration in the moment.
So probably that is why I fall more in the camp that what they said was more so out of frustration for a player that they view as annoying and maybe spoke too much. Though not them either way, just like myself they will get a suspension and hopefully learn from their mistake.
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From two days ago, Leveling Roulette: Holminster Switch. Rolled as an AST, matched with:
- Zero cooldown + dozing tank (forgot what class, I think PLD) during pulls. No wall pulls though. They pop their cooldown only in bosses but not spread out thoroughly and inappropriately. I.e. using 3 self defensive cooldowns all at once for... a roomwide damage. Also walks out of my star every single damn time in first half run.
- Single targeting SAM that's also constantly on the bottom of aggro list, even during bosses.
- Freeze-happy BLM. This is all they use during mob pulls, with occasional [Foul]. I'm also hearing [Enochian] sound effect multiple times during the run.
Starting second half I'm starting to detonate my [Earthly Star] immediately after I put it down just to make sure the tank didn't have time to walk out. Not even my macro helps so... ugh..
DFs do be like that
/winded
"Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."
Spent enough time just reading through this thread that I finally caved and signed up (is it considered signing up when you technically already have an account? hm).
This happened a month and change ago, but it's stuck with me as one of the weirder encounters I've had. Place is leveling roulette, Sastasha. I don't remember the exact party comp, but I was leveling THM and I want to say the healer was CNJ/WHM.
Tank likes big pulls, which doesn't always go well here, but I have Fire II, so we're cruising. Everything's great... until the room before last. Tank pulls absolutely every single enemy in it, including the ones standing in front of the doors. Healer cannot possibly hope to contend with all of the incoming damage with his current kit, and we wipe.
We run back, tank tells me to LB the remaining mob (the bar wasn't full until now, otherwise I might have tried before). It does less than impressive damage, but we're fine, and we continue on. While we're in the captain's quarters, tank says the following:
Tank: healer use <Lucid Dreaming>
Tank: healer use <Lucid Dreaming>
(this isn't me c&ping twice by accident, he really said it twice in quick succession)
There is, of course, one major flaw in his suggestion, which is that Sastasha is a level 15 dungeon and you don't learn Lucid Dreaming until later. This is fine because the devs have taken this into consideration and you cannot possibly run out of MP at this point.
The healer, probably not wanting to type that all out, simply goes
Healer: No.
Tank: ok
cool cool cool. We move on, final room before the boss. Tank pulls the first group. Tank pulls the second group. Tank... keeps pulling. He has pulled the whole room. Tank is entering the boss room with the entire cast of Pirates of the Caribbean at his heels.
We wipe, naturally, and go to start. Except for the tank, who, as it soon becomes apparent, has no intention of reviving and is content to protect the floor from dust until we kick him.
The next tank we get is a normal person and we clear the rest without incident... because this is Sastasha. And we were almost finished. Even if the healer had been in the wrong, he could have sucked it up for maybe 2 more minutes and could have left with his bonus. But he had to throw a tantrum in the level 15 dungeon because he wanted to leave but not take the penalty.
I didn't even remember to report or blacklist because my brain was too busy trying to process what had happened.
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