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  1. #30021
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    I get this gem of a response after the boss died:
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...unds&crop=fill

    Another lovely day in the neighborhood...sigh...
    I would like to think that he might be trolling. But whatever it is, talking like that is like asking for a banhammer.

    Speaking of Toto-Rak, I have rage quitted several times in past few days from leveling roulette because for some reason the game really LOVE to throw me into pre-lv30 dungeons. Even worse sometimes it was a party full of 70+
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  2. #30022
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I would like to think that he might be trolling. But whatever it is, talking like that is like asking for a banhammer.

    Speaking of Toto-Rak, I have rage quitted several times in past few days from leveling roulette because for some reason the game really LOVE to throw me into pre-lv30 dungeons. Even worse sometimes it was a party full of 70+
    What's worse is that after I asked him to use defensive cooldowns on mass pulls like that I was silent the rest of the dungeon until he spoke at the end. Once I got out I had to pull myself away to calm myself down. What they said was completely unwarranted.
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  3. #30023
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    What's worse is that after I asked him to use defensive cooldowns on mass pulls like that I was silent the rest of the dungeon until he spoke at the end. Once I got out I had to pull myself away to calm myself down. What they said was completely unwarranted.
    Some people don't like to acknowledge that they are the problem, so it is easier to blame it on someone else like the healer, for example. You definitely didn't deserve that just because you asked them to, you know, actually tank. lol
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  4. #30024
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Soooo apparently us healers are supposed to healbot everything for undergeared and egotistical tanks again.

    Queue into leveling roulette, I get Toto-Rak. I sigh and check the party out of force of habit, and realize we have a MRD and ARC in the group. I check the tank and see not only are they wearing lvl 15 gear, but are missing some accessories. That's fine, I've dealt with that before.

    They decided to mass pull stuff at the start and nearly die because LoS is still a thing. I end up having to curebot them through it, and politely asked them if they would at least use a defensive cooldown on mass pulls, as it will make my life easier. Silence. Okay, I can deal with that. People usually don't read chat. The rest of the dungeon goes about as well as someone who is rather squishy, even though some tank gear dropped and they actually put it on. The DRG still had more hp than him at the end however. Most of the dungeon I end up having to curebot his yoyoing hp, and tried to slip in some dots and stones here and there to help kill things.

    We get to the last boss and they immediately make a mad dash for the poison pods on the other side of the room like a child addicted to Pez and they had gone dry for a week. Three stacks of poison really do chew through paper tanks, so more curebotting and esuna! Yay...we eventually down the boss with me flip-flopping between curing their squishy self, throwing in some dots and dps, and keeping the other two alive.

    I get this gem of a response after the boss died:
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...unds&crop=fill

    Another lovely day in the neighborhood...sigh...
    Make sure in the future to report those kind of replies. That no doubt was uncalled for and out of line.
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  5. #30025
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Make sure in the future to report those kind of replies. That no doubt was uncalled for and out of line.
    This. One hundred percent this. I hope you did report either before or after you gave yourself a minute Cincierta. Im not one who advocates reporting every tiny thing that people do, we're all human and such. That guys response was way over the line, and warranting of GM feedback. If hes going to learn to play nice, might as well start now. If not, might as well get him into the system early so his ban can come sooner. Not the sort of player ill miss.
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  6. #30026
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I read Cincierta's post yesterday and actually made myself wait until today until replied, since I was o upset. first of all, I felt so bad for Cincierta.

    Secondly, I doubt that the tank was trolling- honestly, there was such a blend of what seems like hostility, stereotypes (not everyone who heals is female) and misogyny, it was certainly deserving of a report, and I really am someone who doesn't like to overuse that feature.

    In this case- the sooner that person learns that behaviour is not acceptable, the better and if they will not change, then they should be banned. Let them stick to solo games where they can abuse NPCs to their heart's content.
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  7. #30027
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    tdb's Avatar
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    stereotypes (not everyone who heals is female)
    Well, Cincierta's character is female, so maybe this tank was going by that. In an MMORPG I find it acceptable to take cues from the appearance of the other player's character, in an in-character sort of way, unless and until they ask for some other terms/pronouns. And if my pronouns were different from my character's, I wouldn't bother correcting some random I'm unlikely to ever see again.

    Regardless of gender assumptions though, calling someone "woman" to their face is rude. "Bitchy woman" even more so. Not to mention all the other drivel the tank spouted.
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    Last edited by tdb; 01-23-2021 at 01:30 AM.

  8. #30028
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    Well, Cincierta's character is female, so maybe this tank was going by that. In an MMORPG I find it acceptable to take cues from the appearance of the other player's character, in an in-character sort of way, unless and until they ask for some other terms/pronouns. And if my pronouns were different from my character's, I wouldn't bother correcting some random I'm unlikely to ever see again.

    Regardless of gender assumptions though, calling someone "woman" to their face is rude. "Bitchy woman" even more so. Not to mention all the other drivel the tank spouted.
    I believe that most players understand that the female character in front of them could be any gender IRL, my own instinct usually is to do exactly as you say though.

    However, I still find that in many games there is a general assumption that most healers are female, and calling someone a "bitchy woman" and "shut up and heal" is being far more than rude. It is abuse.
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  9. #30029
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    Short from waving a sign with "Ban me please!" I can only think of a few other ways to quickly get a GM's attention. Either way, I think he was prob just being an edge lord, and I do think putting the comment in abuse territory is slightly overkill. Do not get me wrong comment was uncalled for, and will most likely result in action being taken against their account.

    Another factor that comes into play is healers can heal through a lot, which I think sometimes gives some tanks a false sense of how well they actually play. I know for one I personally enjoy healing paper tanks that barely pop cooldowns so I often do not say anything and just push through, even though I know my actions could lead to an inflated ego. Sometimes that one healer that calls them out is just the first time in many runs where anyone darned to address their play. As such in their mind it might come off as someone being nitpicky cause in their mind they may have been clearing content perfectly fine just not knowing how much effort the group put into said run because of their level of play.
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    Last edited by Awha; 01-23-2021 at 02:11 AM.

  10. #30030
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Soooo apparently us healers are supposed to healbot everything for undergeared and egotistical tanks again.

    Queue into leveling roulette, I get Toto-Rak. I sigh and check the party out of force of habit, and realize we have a MRD and ARC in the group. I check the tank and see not only are they wearing lvl 15 gear, but are missing some accessories. That's fine, I've dealt with that before.

    They decided to mass pull stuff at the start and nearly die because LoS is still a thing. I end up having to curebot them through it, and politely asked them if they would at least use a defensive cooldown on mass pulls, as it will make my life easier. Silence. Okay, I can deal with that. People usually don't read chat. The rest of the dungeon goes about as well as someone who is rather squishy, even though some tank gear dropped and they actually put it on. The DRG still had more hp than him at the end however. Most of the dungeon I end up having to curebot his yoyoing hp, and tried to slip in some dots and stones here and there to help kill things.

    We get to the last boss and they immediately make a mad dash for the poison pods on the other side of the room like a child addicted to Pez and they had gone dry for a week. Three stacks of poison really do chew through paper tanks, so more curebotting and esuna! Yay...we eventually down the boss with me flip-flopping between curing their squishy self, throwing in some dots and dps, and keeping the other two alive.

    I get this gem of a response after the boss died:
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...unds&crop=fill

    Another lovely day in the neighborhood...sigh...
    That was pretty funny.

    Look at it this way; to get that defensive and angry I'm guessing he gets a lot of crap for not being very good and it's made him insecure. This game probably isn't much fun for him. Realizing things like that will lean you more towards pitying these people than taking their nonsense personally.
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