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  1. #29901
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    Lumivyory's Avatar
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    Mia Cott
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    WoD is pretty face roll with only the most bare amount of attention being required. But mt thoughts on that aside, all the usual strategy does is ensure wipes by promoting rigidity.

    You wiped to belly because B didn't go in and the other 16 people in the alliance didn't go in "because that's B's job." You wiped to chains because someone from C didn't go chain cerberus and the 16 other people watching his buff cast went "not my problem, that's C's job."

    Just do the mechanics, your alliance letter does not matter.
    Trust me, I spam WoD for fun and it's anything but a faceroll unless you get a whole bunch of players that actually know the strat XD

    I suppose this still kinda fits the purpose of the thread - there was a different run a few days ago.
    First we wiped on the Eye. All three tanks were doing god knows what, the Eye was having fun spinning cleaving people. That led to DPS not being able to kill hourglasses and that killed off most of the remaining people.
    We didn't wipe on the Dragon but I daresay we were pretty close. We got like, 2 Toxic Slimes and one of the Prominences exploded. This + inhaling killed a bunch of people.
    Then, of course, we wiped on Cerberus. B healers and the tank didn't go in the belly, their DPS died and people from other alliances that tried to go in and help didn't make it either. Eventually, tank couldn't take the damage anymore and back to the start we go.
    Aaand we wiped on Cloud of Darkness as well. Multiple people hugged under the laser and died. Some - stood in the middle when she reappeared. Then people either ignored, stepped out or stood in the meteors incorrectly (not all the way in). Boom, everyone is dead.
    We even saw Shadowlurkers that run on Cloud! Haven't seen those in years. Was fun.
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  2. #29902
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    WoD Mess
    When people mentioned how 'brainded/faceroll-ish' a content is, I'd like to think in a way how vastly overgeared we are for the said content. So much that we often or almost consistently skips a few mechanics because of how fast we're burning down each encounters. HOWEVER, being a 'braindead'-content doesn't mean it poses 0% of wiping.

    I.e. Labyrinth of the Ancients (LotA) and Syrcus Tower (ST).
    We all know these two being notorious(?) for hogging the so called 'alliance raid roulette' options. Branding them a 'CT Roulette' moniker hence become a semi-joke. People prefer them because it's easy, it's fast, it's faceroll'ish. While that might be true to large extent, even these two had left some bitter taste. We all know the notorious Ancient Flare/Curtain Call wipes, but let's mention the lesser known:
    1. Wiping in LotA vs 3 Atomoses; because one of the lane ignores the adds and they start to buff one another once 3 exists at the same time. Once enough players are dead, it warrants Giant of Doom to cleave the raid to oblivion.
    2. Wiping in LotA vs Zombie Dragon; too many healers sleeping on their job.
    3. Wiping in ST vs Scylla; because too much incoming damage from untransported lightning orbs + raidwide + fire/ice orbs handled improperly.

    All which I've experienced before. Therefore, I'll borrow a bit of your word if you may:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    Trust me, I spam WoD for fun and it's anything but a faceroll unless you get a whole bunch of players that actually know the strat XD
    Or, matched with players that actually attempt to do the mechs. Basically apply to most other contents, not just these three.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 01-06-2021 at 07:23 PM.

  3. #29903
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    Aldora's Avatar
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    But let's mention the lesser known:
    1. Wiping in LotA vs 3 Atomoses; because one of the lane ignores the adds and they start to buff one another once 3 exists at the same time. Once enough players are dead, it warrants Giant of Doom to cleave the raid to oblivion.
    2. Wiping in ST vs Scylla; because too much incoming damage from untransported lightning orbs + raidwide + fire/ice orbs handled improperly.
    What's even more interesting, is that Scylla and Glasya Labolas have mechanics that quite a few people have never seen before. This is due to the fact that damage has increased quite a bit since the raid was current, so these bosses are dead before the phase starts (not like a forced HP based phase changes you have in other boss fights).

    For instance:

    Scylla has a phase where she casts "Daybreak". This is her "Ultimate" spell where you would need to pull up a shield by standing on your assigned pad and kills the adds, like you had to do with "Phlegethon" (the last boss from LotA). If you fail the mechanic, it would petrify everyone in the raid.

    With Glasya Labolas, everyone has seen the 2 sets of tethers that go to the boss during the fight. They are connected to a drone, hidden in an aoe on the ground. A player has to stand in it, in order for the drone to appear and have other players kill it. If you weren't fast enough, the boss gauge would fill up and deal major damage to the raid (usually wiping them).

    After that, you will have a mechanic where 3 bots drop down. A bot for each Alliance Party to pick up and bring to the edge of the arena. They had to be placed between 2 orbs, so that the tether will connect to the bot instead of the boss. Like the mechanic before that, you had to kill the bots before the boss does its Arena wide aoe. If you kill them in time, pads would light up where you had to stand on in order to be transported to the outer ring of the arena. There you had to kill adds and keep jumping to the next pad, because the pad you're standing on will receive an aoe which would kill players standing in for longer then a few seconds.

    Thinking about these mechanics, makes me want to run the Crystal Tower raids with minimal ilvl. lol
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    Last edited by Aldora; 01-06-2021 at 07:39 PM.

  4. #29904
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    Lumivyory's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    1. Wiping in LotA vs 3 Atomoses; because one of the lane ignores the adds and they start to buff one another once 3 exists at the same time. Once enough players are dead, it warrants Giant of Doom to cleave the raid to oblivion.
    2. Wiping in LotA vs Zombie Dragon; too many healers sleeping on their job.
    3. Wiping in ST vs Scylla; because too much incoming damage from untransported lightning orbs + raidwide + fire/ice orbs handled improperly.
    The Atomos one is funny cuz people almost never wait and then sometimes half of the raid ends up in team A.
    Also don't forget the Bomb wipes, surprisingly they still happen cuz people ignore Napalms and spawning Bombs.
    I've also seen a recent wipe on Thanatos when people pulled too early, only one person in A got the ghost buff, then Pots died and nobody could finish the boss lol

    It's always hilarious to see people who rush to pull and ignore mechanics to attack the boss cause a wipe.
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  5. #29905
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    When people mentioned how 'brainded/faceroll-ish' a content is, I'd like to think in a way how vastly overgeared we are for the said content. So much that we often or almost consistently skips a few mechanics because of how fast we're burning down each encounters.
    Yeah, the stat progression in Lv50 gear is kinda ridiculous. A character with i130 gear has almost double the stats compared to i50 (the minimum for LotA). Even against i90 (WoD's requirement) it's a good 40% boost. The differences are much less pronounced on later tiers. And then there's all the ability potency creep that's happened over the years.
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  6. #29906
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
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    trial roulette bismarck hard and the SCH does no healing at all and instead just stands around and does... nothing? both tanks are at low health and he just continues to stare at their health wittling down till they die
    the other healer fell off somehow, but at least they healed
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  7. #29907
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    I just nearly died of laughter right now, anyway gotta contain myself. So, I just started running as DRK again, relearning it, after I got my battle tiger I'm pretty much done with Gunbreaker until next expac. So I warn everyone in this Dohn Mheg run, I am relearning DRK. I stop at the first group of adds, because it looked like my interrupt was not where it should be. I take a few seconds to put it properly. These people start berating me to "pull more", "pull big", "pull more" whatever. I was gonna do that anyway, but sure, I go pull more. We wipe. Well, I think, understandable, I was using Cd's but I definitely wasn't playing properly. I pull again, we wipe again. This time I'm wondering why, because I literally timed all my cds, was burning through my cds. Finally we clear, and get to first boss.

    First boss, apparently I'm the only one who knows how to actually dodge the puddles, healer dies, we wipe. I give them a gist of how to do puddles, this time healer still dies, but dies a little later, we kill it. Go back to pulling like usual, this next big group isn't too bad, we get through it pretty easily, the group after that? Not so much.. Again, I am confused, I can't be playing DRK this bad can I? I know I'm not playing optimally, but what gives? No way! One of the DPS leaves and gets replaced by an RDM. Okay, now the other dps is begging me to pull small, karma if anything after that whole display at the start. I pull big again, since we got a new dps, I'm nearly dying again, and at this point... at this point.... I look at what the healer has been casting this whole time...

    CURE 1. ONLY CURE 1.

    I type in chat "cure 1?!?!1" "cure 1?!" while trying to tank at the same time, the healer then dies to some aoe or whatever. The RDM managed to off heal me for the rest of the pull, and we killed all the adds. The healer then says yeah, they have been only using cure 1. They are "new" to healer. I had already been laughing like a maniac, but at this point, I couldn't breathe I was laughing so hard. I could not believe it. This WHM had been spamming cure 1 THE WHOLE TIME. I don't think I have ever been so dumbstruck by this game, than at this point. This was the perfect storm. Me practicing my Dark Knight, DPS (who were not very good, let's be real), and a healer using cure 1. I'll tell you right now, I have no clue how we even actually did the initial bigger packs.

    Oh the healer stopped using cure 1 after that, yes. They started using CURE 3 and had no mp to heal me instead. Luckily I stopped pulling big, probably to the relief of the dps who continued to beg me not to pull big. Again, same dps who demanded I pull big at the start, just because I had the audacity to stop for a few seconds too long at a pack. Healer was also using holy as their main source of damage on the last boss, but at least they were trying. I'll give them that.

    God, that was a good run. Made my whole day. I hadn't laughed like that in a really long time, and I'm in a very good mood. I ended up even commending the healer, for the laughs. I'm sure everyone else blamed me, whatever. Healer was nice though.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-07-2021 at 06:41 AM.
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  8. #29908
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    OrpheusKappa's Avatar
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    Eurydice Binis
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    Moogle
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    Bard Lv 80
    Trial roulette on alt, got steps of faith and before the duty even starts 3 people bail out. Party lead startds searching for new members but sprout PLD pulls before we get more people in resulting in more people bailing out later and being replaced, with the replacements bailing out as soon as they see the half empty group.In the end it was only me (DRK) ,sprout PLD and a healer when replacements stopped coming in and because steps of faith for some reason does not have a reset button I ended up bailing out too.
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  9. #29909
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Copperbell Mines levelling roulette . Working on my Alts Healer levelling anyways... Marauder Tank, Lancer,Summoner DPS. Almost immediately I notice that the tanks HP is low and they're getting damaged like insane levels. Examine during lull. Level 5 Chest Piece Level 1 Scion Traveler gear. Welllll this will be interesting I thought to myself halfway through they spout of advice to lancer to stay away from the front of targets to keep from getting damaged.(Leaving me free to ponder why give advice when you cant even gear up for the content I have 45 less hp than you.) Any event Tank and Lancer die to bomb exploding cast rez on them both. Lancer refuses the rez finish the rest of the run without them. Dungeoun finally ends and wouldnt you know miracle of miracles Lancer finally releases I couldnt get out of there fast enough. Moral of the story DONT PLAY HEALER After Midnight.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  10. #29910
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    This isn't really a duty finder tale but sheesh, farming 10 totems takes forever just to get that guaranteed weapon. 10 fights doesn't *seem* so bad but when you take into account that you spend more time in party finder than you do in an actual duty, and usually at least 1 person bails every 1-3 runs, you pretty much have to devote your entire day just to get the totems if you don't get lucky and it drops from the dungeon

    And this is without taking into consideration that emerald is a joke compared to most ex trials, so clears are really easy
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