Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Frizze]

I seem to have this idea that BLM is difficult stuck in my head since that's what I remember hearing a lot of the time (especially around HW, if memory serves).

To be fair, BLM was harder back then. You want to keep Eno going as often as possible since its not only a direct damage buff, but it gives you access to your strongest spells. To keep it running now you need to keep either your fire or ice stance up. Thats it, just dont drop your stance. Switching is fine, just dont let the 15 second stance timer run down to 0 without refreshing it. Back then you needed to keep your stance timer going(and it was shorter... either 10 or 12 seconds if i remember right), but you also needed to cast Blizzard 4 to refresh the Eno timer - and every time you cast B4 to put time back on the clock, you got 5 less seconds. In a longer boss fight you would(ideally) keep it up long enough for the Eno recast to clear, then when the re-applied time got down to 15 or 10 seconds you would redo Eno to get it back up to the 30 it started at. In those longer fights, the beginning of the cycle would be kinda chill because you(generally) had a lot of time to do everything. Then as you went through your rotation and the timers started getting shorter it would feel more frantic and stressful. Do i have time to finish this rotation, or do i need to clip and refresh early? Oh god, why is that AoE on me when i need to get this spell off so badly? Then if you pushed hard enough, you got to the recast and things were calm again for a little bit.

But yeah, as the others said its a fairly easy class to learn. The AoE rotation is only 4 spells. Single target is 8 but with 2 distinct phases you treat differently. Add a couple abilities for movement tech, a couple buffs to manage(and a couple worthless spells we dont talk about except to complain), and thats the whole class. Mastery is where the difficulty lies. I would imagine even just doing the level 50 Fire 1 rotation i could out damage some classes, so your extra lazy guy was a real piece of work. Giving all us firestarters a bad name.

[Eien713]

Still, a BLM doing 10% of DPS in dungeons? That's just really painful to read. I can imagine myself cringing if I were in your position. And that's just the icing on top...

Those attitudes on the other hand... yikes.

Yeah, it was such a painful run (>_<). But I was in a good mood and was willing to put up with that abysmal DPS, but like you said, those attitudes left me in shock.

[SturmChurro]

The tank had the nerve to drop these precious pearls of wisdom in chat (intentionally choosing a language they knew I wouldn't understand):
immer diese mentoren die alles besser wissen und keine ahnung haben
wir haben zulange gebraucht fur die mobs

I could smell the word mentoren meant mentor, so I Google Translated it and here's the result:
always these mentors who know everything better and have no idea
it took us too long for the mobs

I was just giving polite advice and I carried the DPS of that whole run. The only saving grace in that run was my DPS. But sure, I'm the one who has no idea and was the reason for the mobs taking too long to die -.-

Oh, and the BLM, who was the culprit for the low DPS, says this in chat as a reply to the tank: ;D


And people wonder why no one is willing to give advice... This is why.

P.S.: The tank was from Shiva (most likely in a party with the healer since they're from the same server), so their behavior was no surprise to me.

To be fair, your chat was probably taken as passive-aggressive, but even so that BLM literally admitted to not caring, or really bothering. When I've been too lazy to go through the class story to get a few skills, then queue, I don't expect people to defend me for it!

[Eien713]

To be fair, your chat was probably taken as passive-aggressive

How on earth are we supposed to word things if literally anything and everything we say no matter the real intentions will be taken as passive-aggressive? The way I see it, the main problem is that people don't wanna own up to their mistakes.

[SturmChurro]

How on earth are we supposed to word things if literally anything and everything we say no matter the real intentions will be taken as passive-aggressive? The way I see it, the main problem is that people don't wanna own up to their mistakes.

Agreed. Why I try not to chat.

[Eien713]

Agreed. Why I try not to chat.

A wise thing to do. I mainly try to give advice every now and then but only when I'm doing Mentor Roulette. Isn't this part of the role of a mentor? Helping people? And more often than not, the people who need help are ones who don't even know they need it in the first place. So it's pointless to wait for them to ask for something they don't know they actually need. To be fair, I did come across some players who appreciated the advice I gave them. I think these rare encounters lull me into a false sense of security and I get encouraged to help people and give them advice. But then I come across people like the ones in my post, who give you a reality check and remind you of why exactly the average level is so low.

When I do content as a regular player, I try to keep to myself no matter the amount of mistakes and/or things getting on my nerves. I only speak when someone asks something.

[tdb]

How on earth are we supposed to word things if literally anything and everything we say no matter the real intentions will be taken as passive-aggressive? The way I see it, the main problem is that people don't wanna own up to their mistakes.

A wise thing to do. I mainly try to give advice every now and then but only when I'm doing Mentor Roulette. Isn't this part of the role of a mentor? Helping people? And more often than not, the people who need help are ones who don't even know they need it in the first place. So it's pointless to wait for them to ask for something they don't know they actually need.

For one thing, offering concrete advice might go across better than a generic suggestion to read a guide. If you feel there's too many problems to address in the chat, at least give them a link to a guide you think is good.

For another, avoid making any insinuations about the recipient's intelligence and gaming skill. Saying things like "<class> can be difficult to play" or "maybe you haven't noticed" can sound like "I think you're not very good at the game." Which, even if true, still feels bad. Stick to the facts and say something like "Hey <player>, you should try to keep Enochian up all the time because it procs your best spells".

[SturmChurro]

Doesn't matter how you word it, people will get upset. I'm more surprised the OP didn't get kicked.

[tdb]

Yeah, I'm sure that some people will be offended for advice no matter how you put it. Personally I don't care enough to say anything unless someone asks. I'll just vent and joke about the bad players in my FC chat.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I only bother to say anything if the tank doesn't have their stance on, because it's usually an accident due to level synching turning it off. Otherwise, most people don't listen anyway.