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  1. #28041
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    LuciferNacht's Avatar
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    Garish Enmity
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Who cares? It's Praetorium. Most people are half afk during it anyway.
    The bads are out in full force. Yes, the content is old and yes other bads afk through it when they shouldn't.
    So let's also not even do our basic role function and cast a single cure?

    The mental gymnastics people go through to justify being a lazy pos in public content lmao.
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  2. #28042
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferNacht View Post
    The bads are out in full force. Yes, the content is old and yes other bads afk through it when they shouldn't.
    So let's also not even do our basic role function and cast a single cure?

    The mental gymnastics people go through to justify being a lazy pos in public content lmao.
    I'm not gonna lie, i don't run Prae and haven't in years. So unless something has changed if the tank is dying to a boss in that dungeon, then dps is slow. Full stop. Trash is the most dangerous thing there. Nero does not hit hard, and the healers were probably off warming up some food.

    If you die in movie roulette who does it hurt? What time is wasted? Does someone die irl? Is your repair bill for gear a quarter million gear? Who cares?

    Like I'm all for trying your best when playing with other people, but whining over a death in Prae is dumb. Using it to campaign about vercure and clemency is even dumber.
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    Last edited by Mavrias; 06-25-2020 at 07:01 PM.

  3. #28043
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
    World
    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Who cares? It's Praetorium. Most people are half afk during it anyway.
    Doesn't make it less sad lmao. Like... Throw one Regen, seriously. If you're not afk, why act like you are? Dude probably died at a glacial pace, which means the dps had to have been afk or trash, or the dude was wearing a paper sack. Like... oof
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    I'm not gonna lie, i don't run Prae and haven't in years. So unless something has changed if the tank is dying to a boss in that dungeon, then dps is slow. Full stop. Trash is the most dangerous thing there. Nero does not hit hard, and the healers were probably off warming up some food.

    If you die in movie roulette who does it hurt? What time is wasted? Does someone die irl? Is your repair bill for gear a quarter million gear? Who cares?

    Like I'm all for trying your best when playing with other people, but whining over a death in Prae is dumb. Using it to campaign about vercure and clemency is even dumber.
    ...Am I the only one who read the clemency post as a joke? An amusing comment on some mildly amusing irony?

    How did this become a serious debate lmao
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  4. #28044
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    How did this become a serious debate lmao
    Content lulls tend to make people pretty snippy I've noticed. Stuff that'd usually be laughed off turns into 25+ page discussions simply for want of something to focus on.
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  5. #28045
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    Verrabbit's Avatar
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    Roskva Miret-krol
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Labyrinth of the Ancients has been weirder than usual for me this week.

    Wiped on the bombs during one run. The Vassago adds weren't being tanked in the right place and kept going invulnerable. Bombs weren't being killed. Everything exploded. Possibly the first time I've wiped there in all my runs.

    Wiped to Ancient Flare because a C tank dragged Phlegethon halfway back to their pad, so A couldn't run back time. Next pull A pulled the boss towards their pad...

    And then Phlegethon my last run. I noticed that aggro kept getting passed around. Except one of ones who stole it was a NIN. Then it was me, a RDM. And then I *kept* aggro for a good 8-10 seconds before a tank finally grabbed aggro off me. All tanks were perfectly alive and at full health at this point, so I don't even know...

    I guess at least it keeps LotA interesting?
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  6. #28046
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    You don't queue for group content and then afk.
    I don't get why this is such a hard concept to grasp.
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  7. #28047
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    Quintessa's Avatar
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 18
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Who cares?
    I do. Let's hope you don't die in Cape Westwind .

    Btw movie roulette was funny.
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  8. #28048
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    l0gic3rr0r's Avatar
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    Tricia Mcmillian
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 60
    So this happened a few days ago. I queued into an Expert Roulette and got Grand Cosmos, the tank (PLD) is in cut scene and admits to being new to it. No biggie it's not hard. Only pulls the first pack and stops but the healer (WHM) encourages him to pull more. We make it to the first boss and after the first set of brooms the tank has four stacks and the healer and other dps have several. We wipe shortly after. Before the third pull I explain how the brooms work. On the fifth pull I explain in detail about how I dodge the brooms and we finally finish it. The tank dies on the second pull right before the last boss. The healer had been and continues to asks if their doing a good job healing, but, in that case it was partially because the tank didn't really pop any cool downs until they almost died. Then they hit all of their cool downs. Including the one that boosts their damage. For some reason. On the second boss somehow the healer died to the room wide AOE after the second set of seeds. The boss was low enough it wasn't really an issue.

    When we get to the third boss I explain that the red markers will drop a + aoe and to stay away from furniture, and then run the blue flame into that furniture to get it off. The tank stood in the glory of their blue flame until they fell over. They get revived and then the first tether mechanic starts. I'm not taking any chances with this healer so I spread out and everyone else spreads out. As I'm watching them move around I realize, that much to my horror, I did't explain the cone aoe from that also destroys furniture and they managed to smash every single piece. Then the chandeliers drop only two of those survived the + AOE's so I told the tank and healer to take them, and the other DPS and I ate the flames. I was revived first, and while the healer was slow casting to rez the other dps the boss did it's left/right AOE. It was on the side the healer was standing on all the way against the wall. No way to make it in time. Wipe number one.
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  9. #28049
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    l0gic3rr0r's Avatar
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    Tricia Mcmillian
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    Jenova
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Before we did the second pull I told the healer to stick to the boss to avoid those left/right AOE's. Fight going pretty smoothly with the furniture and all that but the boss does a left/right mechanic and I saw the healer standing in the exact spot they died in last time. So the healer dies again but we should be fine, I've done this fight without a healer for the last part of it so we should be ok. Boss does his tether mechanic and the other dps decides it's ok to eat all the damage and not move in time to get out of the aoe. So the other dps dies and it's just the tank and myself. I See the boss is readying the tank buster and realize the tank isn't buffing for it. So tank is low on health but it's a PLD so it can heal and I throw Minne on it. I don't remember who died first but it was a wipe. At 4%. (The other DPS had decided to LB earlier right after the healer died) So before the third pull I explain what the tank buster is to the tank and that they should pop a cooldown for it. Tank tells me they were wondering if they should have done anything for that. So the third pull begins and it's going pretty smoothly, with no issues before or during the blue flame mechanics. Then the boss starts casting his tank buster and I stare at the party bar waiting for the tank to pop a defensive cooldown.

    Boss: *Casts tank buster*
    Tank: *Stares blankly*

    He didn't of course which really isn't that big of a deal normally but clearly we are having issues clearing this. The healer died again and I honestly don't remember why. The other DPS tries to use the caster LB but the tether mechanic has already started and the boss jumps out of the way and takes no damage. So it's just the three of us and we finally managed to do it. I've actually had the boss over 30% before and killed it with just the tank and myself. This time there were three of us and I had less then 10% health at the end. The entire ordeal took about 45 minutes. I've never understood why people just NOPE out of parties and eat the penalty. Now I understand.
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  10. #28050
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    Yue_Amariyo's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Yue Amariyo
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 46
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    And to think there's 3 other tanks and 9 other DPS who go well without Clemency and Vercure XD
    every tank has a self heal. gnb as a regen/ shield and second skill in their 123 is a heal. third hit of war is a heal+ plus a second wind style cure drk has a heal in their rotation as well.
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    Hello, nice to meet you!
    FF14 player as of: 6/3/2020.
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