Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Joven]

Had a tank in Aurum Vale pull mobs to the first boss room, not fight and die. The rest of us fight for our lives and die as well. This happens two more times before the tank finally explains that he wanted to die to reset the mobs so they wouldn't attack the rest of us and then he just gets rezzed for the boss fight. Despite being an overly convoluted plan, it would have been nice for him to have shared that info from the get-go.

[Awha]

Had a tank in Aurum Vale pull mobs to the first boss room, not fight and die. The rest of us fight for our lives and die as well. This happens two more times before the tank finally explains that he wanted to die to reset the mobs so they wouldn't attack the rest of us and then he just gets rezzed for the boss fight. Despite being an overly convoluted plan, it would have been nice for him to have shared that info from the get-go.

With the tomes going on he probably thought it was the common strategy. Most groups i have been in have gone with this strategy and have no said anything. Does not excuse it, but it is understandable.

[Cincierta]

Just got out of a run where I want to cry.

Went into roulette as my alt BRD because I love mah pew-pews. Got thrown into Aery. Rest of party comp was WAR, WHM and SAM. I see the icons and go 'this'll be fast...wait, why is the whm and sam's hp so low?'

Turns out they were wearing the gear you get from WoD raid, along with a couple other accessories that pushed them to meet minimum ilvl requirements. WHM had the Shiva Ice cane, SAM had the lvl 50 whacky-stick you get from unlocking the SAM job. I suddenly had a Vietnam flashback from the one sam that came into the aery with lvl 50 base sam gear a long while ago while I was on AST...

Tank, thankfully was wearing the lvl 58 npc shop gear you could buy, but strangely enough they had put what I can only describe as mish-mash materia in it. Still better than the other two. First pull tank almost forgets tank stance, then puts it on after both the whm and I had aggro. They use Overpower once. Somehow I rip hate from the tank far too easily. During this spot, the whm just spammed Cure 1. No Cure 2, no Holy, no Assize. Just. Cure 1. Lovely start.

The tank, I realized, was also new to the dungeon, so the entire run consisted of single pulls. Spoodlers: the rest of the party ripped hate from them, but not as much as I did as BRD. Also other spoodlers: sam almost never aoe'd and only maintained one buff at a time on themselves. No Hissatsu: Kaiten either to boost their 3 uses of Higabana the entire dungeon.

First boss no one asks about the purple tethers since the tank decides to just yeet themselves to the boss. Tank gets the first one, and eats the Thundapawnch. He also eats the second one. Third one somehow the sam gets it...and just yeets themselves to me to pass it at the last second. I eat a Thundapawnch, and yet despite the sam's flailing and attempting to be a big boi with Meikyo spam, I'm still doing more damage than them.

Meanwhile the WHM is using Regens on everyone. On top of Medica II. Oh, and more Cure 1 spam.

Hallway to second boss I'm still ripping hate with the single pulls and my aoe's. Somehow I tanked more than the actual tank did, and I finally got a bit mad that, as a ranged dps, I really shouldn't be tanking or ripping hate this easily. So I told the tank to use Overpower first, then Mythril Temptest, as they had yet to use anything else at the start to grab hate besides the single Overpower at the start of fights. No response. *sigh*

Second boss the tank does not bother to move the boss out of the poison clouds, so the sam ends up eating a few. Sam is still flailing about with Meikyo spam, and yet I was still doing more damage as BRD on the second boss. Also I noticed something else: the whm didn't know or didn't have Esuna on their hotbar. I'm currently betting both.

The trip to the last boss was more Cure 1 spam/Regen/Medica II, with a single Holy and Asylum from the WHM. Sam used a couple AoEs, but then went right back to single-targetting. I was still ripping hate because apparently being on my alt xaela makes dragons just wanna roflwaffle you. War decides now was a good time to just spam Temptest and Fell Cleave by themselves, when we had that last large set before the boss door.

We finally get to Nidhogg, and I remind the party about the Sable Price mechanic. Just in time too, as I was done explaining the tank just sprints over and wants to grab hold of Nidhogg's booty. Well, he didn't like that. Fight ensues, and I'm still doing more damage than the freestyle sam. Intermission mobs die slowly, and while I'm aoeing my heart out, whm spams stone and the sam...is doing something. We barely made the dps check...and the sam goes right back to being freestyle. I decided to just say 'I'm done with this run' to myself, popped lb2 when it dropped, and got our clear.

Sam immediately drops out once the boss was dead. Somehow I got a comm and had no idea whose it was.

#BRDHardDPSCarry #WardensPaeanIsNotPartyWideEsuna #CriesInBowHarp #WeNeed2TalkGearingUp

[Avatre]

They really do think it's a part of their hate rotation I see it constantly with tanks using provoke after they already have hate or they even pull with provoke. *face palm*

I sometimes pull with provoke on WAR since Overpower is a cone, it just makes it easier if the mobs are spaced out a bit when doing the initial pull. Typically Provoke into Overpower into Tomahawk as I am running to the next batch of enemies. It's VERY rare that I stop and use Mythril Tempest before moving to the second set. But as a DRK or PLD, I usually have enough range with the AoE to hit them all, and if not I Shield Lob/Unmend as needed. Will have to figure out what I will do with GNB(probably similar to PLD/DRK) when I start working on it's achievements.

[KaleShibata]

^i know right? i mean i dont even rank my own player, i dont really care about 50% or even 1%, i play ff14 is for the story first and foremost.

hell iam sitting with 4 class at max level and none of them has materia slotted in their gear lol

I've maxed every combat class minus blue mage for the story alone. now im just doing basic gearing as an excuse to run content i like again and find glamours i didn't have without running content again. there's something for everybody.

[Elkanah]

With the tomes going on he probably thought it was the common strategy. Most groups i have been in have gone with this strategy and have no said anything. Does not excuse it, but it is understandable.

Considering this was a strategy back in 2.0 as well for Aurumn vale, and some of the older level 50 dungeons like AK for boss rooms without need to clear, it makes sense still in 2020. Though usually everyone is (already) on the same page before it starts lol

[Cheremia]

Me as a healer:

Rescues people out of danger
They run back into traffic and die


Even your boyfriend rather plays in traffic....
https://imgur.com/a/ENuO8eA

[NintendoAnimeFan]

I healed an e5s re-clear group that had wiped 3 times, all on Chain Lightning. We were using circle strategy, but people were not moving correctly for it.

After the 3rd wipe, one of the DPS says "Why don't we use the JOE strat?", to which everyone is confused, and has no idea what he's talking about. "Joe strat?" "What's that?" "What's JOE strat?" "I've never heard of that" "I only know circle" etc, to which one of the tanks responds "How about we stick with what people know?" Then that DPS explains "Joe mama better learn mechanics so we stop wiping!" Basically calling out the entire party.

THE NEXT PULL, that same DPS dies on the first mechanic, and was the only one who did so.

Needless to say, the rest of the group unloaded on him.

When he died to that, I instinctively used Swiftmend + Ascend to rez him, only to notice after Swiftmend that he was in the opposite corner of the room to where my stormcloud position was, and was thus out of reach. An honest mistake, as I'm generally quick to rez someone upon death. But for some reason, he chose to watch me in particular BEFORE that happened, then accused me of intentionally wasting the Swiftmend and not rez him. Like he was trying to find a scapegoat for his own embarrassing epic failure.

After a 4th wipe, the group bashed him for calling them out then dying on the first mechanic, then proceeded to disband due to 4 wipes. Soon after that, I joined another re-clear group, and that same DPS just happened to join that group after me, saw that I was in it, told the party lead that I should be kicked because I'm a trap, then left. That new group wound up clearing e5s on its first try, with me being top heals.

Sure bud. I'M the trap XD

[Mhaeric]

Me as a healer:

Rescues people out of danger
They run back into traffic and die


Even your boyfriend rather plays in traffic....

Nevermind the names not being masked, I don't see someone running back out into traffic in the gif. I see a late Rescue.

[Rilifane]

snip

Wiping a few times in a clear party isn't all that uncommon even with a group of players who knows the fight decently well. After all it's still a group of strangers that never played together before. I had groups where the dps prefered to do all the ferrying for CL and I had to keep social distancing in mind to not get roasted and I had groups where even melees couldn't be bothered to move a single pixel, not even when we played it with 7 people because someone died shortly before and stayed outside because it's usually safer than potentially messing up the order. So I had to run halfway around Ramuh to pass it on.
Honestly, 3 wipes isn't that bad. I'd say pretty average, so not much reason to complain yet.
No wonder they got salty when he called the entire party out. I guess his fail afterwards was well-deserved, escpecially when he got all petty and blamed you and even asked to get you kicked in the next party.
Good thing you found a better party afterwards and cleared.

Just one thing: being top healer doesn't really mean anything. Keeping people alive is easy enough that groups would probably solo-heal it for the most part if there weren't some annoying "targets only healers" mechanics that get randomized by solo-healing it. Healers have such a ridiculous amount of downtime but I still regulary run into overachiever healers who top everyone off right away even with the next aoe not hitting for another 40s+.
The only times I can think of that are bit more healing intense for more than two aoes in a row are e7 colors & aoe waves during tornardo and add phase on Shiva because dps just love roasting themselves on lightning adds with the biggest nuke they have. You absolutely have to overkill by at least 30k.