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  1. #26531
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm levelling dragoon, just got Qarn in roulette.
    The tank is a pull-happy, which I imagine is due to the other dps being a BLM, since sadly at that level I had no AoE to make that worth it. Things seem to go pretty slow but I blame it on my single target.
    Then at the first boss everybody dies and I stay last, and even alone the total dps output doesn't seem to decrease much. And even later things seem to be too slow. So I start looking at what the BLM is casting. Blizzard. Then Blizzard. Then again Blizzard. One Fire. Blizzard x3 again and so on. And not even in a row, there are breaks between casts and times in which I assume they're using Scathe since I see animation but no cast. Sigh. Then I observe what they do with trash. Very same skills. No AoE at all. Wall to wall packs and they're single-targetting. Oh my. Then for the last boss they decide it's cool to pop Manaward, for no reason whatsoever. It was suuuuch an horrible run, useless to say it took a full 30mins. It's also a shame cause the tank and healer were actually good.

    PS. I swear it's not the same run as the guy above, even though it seems pretty much the same party composition xD
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    Last edited by Tlamila; 03-19-2020 at 12:49 AM.

  2. #26532
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    Eldevern's Avatar
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    When people are so use to rush CT they start Rabanastre without paying attention to adds...
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  3. #26533
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Crushing Fatigue
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Had an interesting ocean fishing experience. Load in and it's clear most people are using it to level as most everyone had Snagging and a few had Salvage turned on, so they likely came from leveling it in other places and just forgot to turn it off. I did as well, because I've been in Diadem for awhile and just plain old forgot that it has no affect - but as I haven't heard anything about it hurting your chances with ocean fishing so much as just plain old not working I didn't care all that much. Apparently this offended one of my party members greatly and they spent the first voyage berating everyone and doing call outs at them for this mistake. Not even in a 'hey that doesn't work, I'm not sure if you knew' but rather a 'well xxx is such a chad and a bloody moron for not realizing this.' Very much a ' how dare you waste my time', 0 to 100 almost right out of the gate.

    When no one reacted, because most people likely didn't expect to be berated and wanted to avoid a fight, they and their friend took their pram and just left the duty in a huff. It was very bizarre? Can someone clarify for me if snagging actually DOES have a negative impact on the rest of the party? Because if it did, okay I get the need to inform, but the name-calling and vitriol was a cut above any proportional response.
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    Last edited by Enla; 03-19-2020 at 08:23 AM.

  4. #26534
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    RyuSaarva's Avatar
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Today i wiped 3 times on the one boss in alexander that absorbs garbage.

    Both tanks were new and blind running it. I explained the mechanics several times but they just seemed to be tunnel visioning the boss instead of focusing on the mechanics.
    that is a very common wipe and vote abandon duty, also anyone can do the small adds so you don't need to yell at tanks and just die over and over again.
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  5. #26535
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    that is a very common wipe and vote abandon duty, also anyone can do the small adds so you don't need to yell at tanks and just die over and over again.
    Most of the time it ain't small adds that wipe groups in there it's the Faust, either tank pulls straight into early platform that drops into lava or tank ignores it like the other adds and it starts killing dps/healers off.
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  6. #26536
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Now that I have decent internet again I'm getting back into doing extremes. Been doing Ruby Extreme for a few days now off and on. Basically know the fight by heart. I'm the offtank (usually, and been doing it with a tank friend). I've seen enrage and know every single mechanic, rarely even getting hit by helioclaw. Still not cleared. Now why is that?

    Pug DPS can never stay alive for whatever reason.

    "This is an alt, I've cleared before"
    "I've cleared before, just helping"
    "I've seen enrage but I have no idea what I'm doing"
    "Why did that redmage use displacement and backflip into the wall right as phase 2 begins?"

    And then said dps, in one case a dragoon, keeps getting hit by iron chariot and dying. But hey they've cleared it and it's just an alt guys! I've given up clearing this since I didn't do it in the first few days and am just going to wait and see if we can finish making a static. Tired of doing everything I can correctly only for pugs to mess up. Well that and they can never agree on a strategy, or people subject a strat of their own in place of what a party finder says.

    And the best part? Dragoon earlier says "god help me" about a strat despite being the alt of a cleared character that kept dying to iron chariot. If you're going to brag about your clear at least try not to get hit by avoidable mechs.

    It's almost as bad as when I tried getting my Delta 4.0 savage clear after my static broke due to schedule displacement, and having a black mage run their flare all the way across the arena on top of me with my own.
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  7. #26537
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Now that I have decent internet again I'm getting back into doing extremes. Been doing Ruby Extreme for a few days now off and on. Basically know the fight by heart. I'm the offtank (usually, and been doing it with a tank friend). I've seen enrage and know every single mechanic, rarely even getting hit by helioclaw. Still not cleared. Now why is that?

    Pug DPS can never stay alive for whatever reason.

    "This is an alt, I've cleared before"
    "I've cleared before, just helping"
    "I've seen enrage but I have no idea what I'm doing"
    "Why did that redmage use displacement and backflip into the wall right as phase 2 begins?"

    And then said dps, in one case a dragoon, keeps getting hit by iron chariot and dying. But hey they've cleared it and it's just an alt guys! I've given up clearing this since I didn't do it in the first few days and am just going to wait and see if we can finish making a static. Tired of doing everything I can correctly only for pugs to mess up. Well that and they can never agree on a strategy, or people subject a strat of their own in place of what a party finder says.

    And the best part? Dragoon earlier says "god help me" about a strat despite being the alt of a cleared character that kept dying to iron chariot. If you're going to brag about your clear at least try not to get hit by avoidable mechs.

    It's almost as bad as when I tried getting my Delta 4.0 savage clear after my static broke due to schedule displacement, and having a black mage run their flare all the way across the arena on top of me with my own.
    This is exactly the reason I haven't bothered to clear it this patch. I just didn't feel like dealing with the hours upon hours of pug "clear" groups this time. It took me a good.. I don't know 15+ hours to clear Hades last time? It's ridiculous. I treat every new PUG group as I join as a learn from the start, unless I get lucky. It doesn't matter if I saw enrage, I am at the mercy of whatever group I can find at that particular moment, usually redoing mechanics from phase one.

    The funny thing is a lot of them actually aren't lying when they say they have "cleared before". They usually cleared off the backs of others, or something or other. Farm groups that require a clear to join still have people that can't grasp mechanics.
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  8. #26538
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Yeah my friend is going to have a fun time convincing me to do it with randoms now. I'll just respond with "I'm done with pugs".

    It just ain't worth it anymore when you only have "the leftovers" or disingenuous people (assuming they even stay for more than 20 minutes because they can never commit, thus wasting more time reclearing phase 1). Getting a tome weapon in a week and a half anyway.
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  9. #26539
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Yeah my friend is going to have a fun time convincing me to do it with randoms now. I'll just respond with "I'm done with pugs".

    It just ain't worth it anymore when you only have "the leftovers" or disingenuous people (assuming they even stay for more than 20 minutes because they can never commit, thus wasting more time reclearing phase 1). Getting a tome weapon in a week and a half anyway.
    Pretty much. If you don't clear it the first or second week the chance of actually clearing it with a pug seems to decrease exponentially. Certainly "the leftovers" are who you have to clear with now. Yeah, no commitment. It's extremely annoying. You get some progress with any particular group.. someone leaves. Then most of the time the entire group disbands, and now you gotta reprog over and over again, as the cycle continues.

    Part of the reason I won't do any harder content past extreme, like savage. I wouldn't want to join a static for content like this either, personally. I just don't want to commit to a set schedule. I prefer to play when I want to play, treating it like a job just makes the game less enjoyable for me.
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  10. #26540
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Yeah thats how its been since ARR ex trials.. mad dash to clear first 2 weeks, and if not, wait 4 yrs til unsync was implemented(lol).
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