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  1. #26071
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I have a confession to make. The brooms on the first boss of grand cosmos still trip me up. Every. Dang. Time.
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  2. #26072
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    This is normal. If anything, 4 deaths is kinda low for a first time so good job. While there are few instant death mechanics in CF, there are a lot of ways to die and you dont necessarily have any control over some of them.
    This is very true, even for not first timers. There's so much visually going on in those fights that it can be hard to make any sense of things the first several runs. It's a veritable laser light show at times. E.g. The final boss gives a lot of trouble at the point where even if you figure out that it will attack in certain directions based on their incoming move, which direction that the boss is actually facing at the time is easily obscured unless you're super familiar with the fight.
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  3. #26073
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I have a confession to make. The brooms on the first boss of grand cosmos still trip me up. Every. Dang. Time.
    I still have trouble with them too, although it got better. They're sneaky.
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  4. #26074
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I have a confession to make. The brooms on the first boss of grand cosmos still trip me up. Every. Dang. Time.
    Imagine what her vacuum cleaners are like.
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  5. #26075
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    NessaTelrunya's Avatar
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    Desidora Tali
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I have a confession to make. The brooms on the first boss of grand cosmos still trip me up. Every. Dang. Time.
    Yup. You’re not alone there.
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  6. #26076
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Tam Tara Hard yesterday. Healer was a lvl 50 WHM (wearing the fresh 50 gear and everything). They were married to the tank (same last name, random non-verbal pausing for eachother). I wanna say that they were both returners. The tank was wearing early level 60 gear, and the WHM was wearing the aformentioned fresh 50 gear.

    The healer didn't seem to know what her healing spells actually did, or when she should use them. She'd medica 1/2 when the tank was the only one taking damage. She cast cure 3 on me when i'm off in the distance alone.

    The tank did okay, but only did single pulls. Like...even when there was only one minor mob to be pulled.

    And nobody, including myself, could remember what to do for the first boss, we kind of lucked through it on our second attempt. I looked it up after and told everybody what we actually needed to do for posterity.
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  7. #26077
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    Lium's Avatar
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    Brielle Artemus
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    Exodus
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I have a confession to make. The brooms on the first boss of grand cosmos still trip me up. Every. Dang. Time.
    They still get me from time to time as well. Although the last few runs I've gotten through them fine. The thing is, they move randomly and if one happens to hit you, it knocks you into other bad stuff, and all it takes is one more hit to kill you.

    So, you can run out of space very quickly if you're not careful, or are just unlucky. It's deceptively hard.
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  8. #26078
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    If I did expert roulette daily I might have gotten used to them by now but I've probably run Grand Cosmos like...6 times total? And every time I keep trying to see some trick I might be overlooking to it. At least I usually manage to not die at least.
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  9. #26079
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I have a confession to make. The brooms on the first boss of grand cosmos still trip me up. Every. Dang. Time.
    Well I wouldn't worry about that one either.

    Since there's no floor markers you have no idea of the range of the brooms sweep techniques, so its impossible to gauge them without doing it a lot.
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  10. #26080
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    They still get me from time to time as well. Although the last few runs I've gotten through them fine. The thing is, they move randomly and if one happens to hit you, it knocks you into other bad stuff, and all it takes is one more hit to kill you.

    So, you can run out of space very quickly if you're not careful, or are just unlucky. It's deceptively hard.
    They don't move randomly at all. The key is to think of each broom as a single circular AoE that moves in a straight line across the map. There are no gaps between their paths, covering the entire map, and the paths alternate directions. The basic mechanic to this is to stand in the path of an oncoming broom long enough to let one of the brooms in the neighbouring path pass you so you can duck behind it.

    The complication is that these AoE circles temporarily pause and get larger when they hit a puddle, covering the neighbouring paths as well. The easiest way I've found to handle this mechanic is to stand in the path of whichever of the incoming brooms will hit their puddle first. While it is in its puddle, one of the brooms in the path to either side of it will have time to move past you allowing you to duck behind it and move far enough back within its path to avoid its larger AoE when it goes off in the middle. At this point your first broom will have moved far enough up that you can now duck behind it and move up to avoid the third set of puddles that trigger near the ends of the broom paths.
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