Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

I convinced a friend of mine to start playing FF14 and yesterday, after she finished the novice hall as a Conjurer, she was ready for her first dungeon. I couldn't accompany her but I watched over her and told her not to worry, as the community is usually very friendly, especially to Newbies. Or so I thought. The dungeons starts and she was the only sprout, watching cutszene, there is a newcomer-bonus, she is on their first class with level 16, but while she was still typing a "Hello" into the chat the PLD immediately dashed off, pulling everything they can pull. Still wondering what's actually going on she tried to follow them, even using the dot on the enemies like I told her to and keeping the tank alive for a while until the last big room before the last boss (the one with all the pirates) where she panicked and they wiped - with the tank immediately lashing out at her, faster then they dashed through the dungeon.
I mean, I get it. It's Sastasha. It's boring for experienced player so you wanna do it fast and move on. But there is this new player on her first class, joining in her first dungeon ever in this game, without much of a plan what's going one. Is it too much to ask to consider this for a bit and maybe not masspulling everything straight to the exit? And then even criticising her for not being able to keep up with your speed-run?

Obviously. Because after I asked her if she wants to continue, she soldiered on and a little bit later she entered the very next dungeon, Tam-Tara, where exactly the same thing happend again. Well, the results afterwards where clear with her conclusion: "Well, this game looks fun and I enjoyed it quit a bit, but I don't ever want to go into any more dungeons, thank you very much."

I offered to take her along with me and my friends in the future so she can actually enjoy the game some more, but I guess I was lucky when I did my first dungeons as the party was way more nicer and took it slow. I don't know if I would have continued with the game if I had received the same treatment either.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I remember I had really unpleasant runs of Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium the first time I tried the game. I considered unsubscribing after beating Ultima Weapon, but I wound up sticking around for the story.

[Silver-Strider]

Last night, I get into Holmester to level my RDM.
Group was a DRK, WHM and MNK.

We start off with the DRK pulling everything in the 1st room and is almost instantly killed just as they get to the last pull. Now, I had somehow pulled aggro on the bear during the pull so I imagine the WHM had stopped momentarily to heal me as we continued the pull as they had been a bit behind when the DRK had reached the end of his pull and he promptly died as a result of the healer being too far to heal them. Its a wipe but I sort of just brush it off. DRK and MNK comment that the healer must be new so they proceed to do small pulls, although the DRK was a bit snide in his remark. Now, we do small pulls but I notice that I'm getting a little high on the aggro meter while doing my AoE rotation for these single mob pulls until I eventually pull hate several times from the tanks, which is when I start looking at what this DRK is doing. No AoE emnity attacks, MP mostly full 90% of the time, No CDs, nothing. Now, I do feel that the healer was largely inexperienced (using medica 2 when only the tank was taking damage, using cure when several people were hurt, etc.) but they were at least trying to make use of their CDs as much as possible and healing us so while I do believe that the big pull would not have been possible with them healing, I don't think the snide remark was necessarily either after witnessing this DRK failing their job in equal measure so I was a bit ticked off by it. After the 5th or so time I rip aggro from this guy, I just had to comment and being the smart A that I am I state, "Damn, making fun of the healer when you can barely keep aggro". No reply from anyone but after that, DRK decides to actually AoE and never lost aggro to me for the rest of the dungeon, which we proceed to clear with minimal issues apart from the WHM dying to the last boss but a quick Verraise and we cleared.

I get upset when people call out a player when they themselves are so bad at their job that they have to deflect blame onto others for their own failures. I don't tolerate that type of behavior and will call you out on your own failures rather than fall for the shade you try and throw on others.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

You know what's more fun than Titania with parties that wipe? Titania with parties that wipe where the Tank instantly pulls the second the barrier comes down without discussing a thing. Even when the "One or more players is new to this duty" thing flashes on the screen.

Because blindly pulling worked so well the first two pulls.

[Rilifane]

You know what's more fun than Titania with parties that wipe? Titania with parties that wipe where the Tank instantly pulls the second the barrier comes down without discussing a thing. Even when the "One or more players is new to this duty" thing flashes on the screen.

Because blindly pulling worked so well the first two pulls.

Overly impatient tanks...
Had an E4 run with the tank typing "insta pull lol" and sprinting towards Titan. We had three new players, one who typed "just a sec, interface issue", one who asked when he had to run to the "long side". Imagine how well that went...
Anf after we wiped he said "jeez it's just normal".
I appreciate every tank who initiates a quick ready check before trials/ normal raids and sets a short pull timer. Even if it's just 5sec, it's nice to know that the fight is about to start pretty soon. Those 10sec for everyone to click ready plus pull timer won't hurt anyone.

[RyuSaarva]

Overly impatient tanks...
Had an E4 run with the tank typing "insta pull lol" and sprinting towards Titan. We had three new players, one who typed "just a sec, interface issue", one who asked when he had to run to the "long side". Imagine how well that went...
Anf after we wiped he said "jeez it's just normal".
I appreciate every tank who initiates a quick ready check before trials/ normal raids and sets a short pull timer. Even if it's just 5sec, it's nice to know that the fight is about to start pretty soon. Those 10sec for everyone to click ready plus pull timer won't hurt anyone.

sorry but you were ready when you accepted the duty pop but I will give you a few seconds to summon you pet and do your preparations but I will never use ready checks, those annoy me.

[Nononu]

sorry but you were ready when you accepted the duty pop but I will give you a few seconds to summon you pet and do your preparations but I will never use ready checks, those annoy me.

Then you're a bad player.

80 level rotations require set-up, so NO, DPS are NOT ready when they click yes to accept a duty. Please learn what other classes need, at least minimally, and don't pull without ready checks in high-level/high-end content. Not able to properly start a rotation is more annoying than a ready check.

Edit: Guess who just ran into a healer who said "go nuts" to big pulls and couldn't handle them?

I'm glad you guys don't have this problem.

[Miracle_Diva]

sorry but you were ready when you accepted the duty pop but I will give you a few seconds to summon you pet and do your preparations but I will never use ready checks, those annoy me.

When I accepted the Q I was ready to enter a duty, not for someone like you to screw over my rotation. Some classes require time before pull. Some people need time to properly load in. That's exactly why ready check and countdown exists. Especially in raids.
If you don't have time for that, avoid raids at all cost because respecting others annoy you.

[RyuSaarva]

thats why I said I give you a few seconds, I am not waiting 20 seconds for ninjas to get another ninjutsu ready, they can use kassatsu for trick attack at the beginning like I do.

[Ilenya]

thats why I said I give you a few seconds, I am not waiting 20 seconds for ninjas to get another ninjutsu ready, they can use kassatsu for trick attack at the beginning like I do.

Do NIN not have Hide reset anymore?