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  1. #23771
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nononu View Post
    Neither. And I know what they look like. I never saw them -once-. It was single target the entire time, no matter how big the tank pulled. And here I am, just Doton'ing and Death Blossom'ing my dumb little Lalanin heart out.

    The healer was an AST. Guess who was getting all the AST cards? Given this is the DF horror story thread, you'd probably suspect the bard not AOE-ing, but this was a smart AST, so I got them all. Made me all warm and fuzzy inside.
    Oh I know what they look like too. It's just...a bard not aoeing...my brain meats still hurt. Please make it stop.
    (1)
    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  2. #23772
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    savageink's Avatar
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I ran roulettes the other day to level my PLD. I have minimal experience tanking in PUGs, but I've run all of the available ones with the squad before hand to get the gist. I've had pretty good runs with no real wipes up to that day. Got AV, urgh...

    Now, honestly it could have been part my fault but really it was weird. I've run it a hundred times on other classes. So, I'm pretty familiar with it. So, I start the pull in that first big room and I'm trying to get off to the side to avoid aggroing everything in the place. But things keep coming. And my hp are dropping way faster than they should. And I notice I'm surrounded and die. OK. So I think maybe I screwed the pooch and picked a bad spot.

    So, we start over. Couple less big frogs, so I'm thinking no problem. Pull the left group run up the wall and everything is going a lot smoother. Got my back to the first bosses room and there shouldn't be anything to aggro. Then I see the problem. The dps is pulling literally everything in the room to me. We obviously wipe. The healer bails. ...I think about it for 2 seconds and join them.

    edit: rerolled the roulette. Got Brayfox, got 3 comms no wipes.
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    Last edited by savageink; 09-13-2019 at 10:46 AM.

  3. #23773
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    Sapphire_Dianta's Avatar
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    Shirogane - Private Estate 18-3
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    Character
    Sapphire Dianta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I've got a hot one served up fresh!

    Since I already maxed out all my classes because I'm literally insane, I've kinda been skipping out on roulettes, but I still head in now and then as a tank or a healer to help my DPS friends with their queue times. So today, I head into MSQ roulette with two of my FC friends. We get Castrum Meridianum with a GNB as my co-tank. He's got the returner icon, that usually goes well. He doesn't use cooldowns, but what duty finder tank does these days, especially in MSQ? Seems like at this point, it's standard to just go in bare and blame the healers for your mistakes. So of course, the healers pick up the slack for him right up until the section with the pair of spotlights right before Livia. He pulls without cooldowns, immediately melts, and dies. I hear the telltale ping of a Superbolide going off, but it looks like the server latency demons have struck again. Amused, I suggest using his cooldowns in party chat. I can't deny that having just recently finishing leveling my healers to 80, getting a slew of cocky undergeared tanks who refuse to use their toolkits has made me a little saltier than usual. And oh boy, he is not happy.



    It's an aggro war you want, huh?

    So, because I'm not dumb, I have no intention of engaging with him and getting in an aggro war. I'd rather not mess with the other six people in the party who would prefer to not have the boss spinning around the arena, and I have no need to prove myself to an inexperienced player who thinks that spamming Provoke and your ranged enmity generator means you're a tough guy. So I turn off my stance, wait for him to load in, and let him pull Livia.



    But I.... I turned off my stance... before the fight even started because... sigh...

    You know those coworkers or acquaintances that we've all got? The ones who are so dumb, they don't actually realize how dumb they are? That's this guy. I guess suggesting cooldown usage really got under his skin, because he even came after me with whispers after the duty ended. Still refused to engage with him though, because it's never worth arguing with an idiot. People like this are infuriating.
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  4. #23774
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    KaleShibata's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Kyzunro Shibata
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire_Dianta View Post
    I've got a hot one served up fresh!

    I can't deny that having just recently finishing leveling my healers to 80, getting a slew of cocky undergeared tanks who refuse to use their toolkits has made me a little saltier than usual. And oh boy, he is not happy.
    These are my favorite tanks to heal for in 4 mans because they always do the exact same stuff. now, if you're geared i can figure something out. but if you're not I'm just gonna hear explosion sounds in the first 15 seconds. the only thing more salty than a tank being told to use their cooldowns by another tank is when they die to it and the healer has the AUDACITY to suggest that they push buttons...
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  5. #23775
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire_Dianta View Post
    I've got a hot one served up fresh!
    You will want to blur out all names save yours. Having the other person’s name not censored in your post is considered naming-and-shaming. Which isn’t allowed on here.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

  6. #23776
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    RenAshdoll's Avatar
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    Ren Ashdoll
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 80
    I was rather sleep deprived and entered drex to grab my daily tomes... On the last boss, my endurance decidedly faded away and I started nodding off.... On my last TCJ, it went something like *activate TCJ*-> *seal then fuma*->*seal then raiton*->*seal....* -> SNORE

    Thank god the fight ended there -_-
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  7. #23777
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    RyuSaarva's Avatar
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    how does a tank even melt in main story roulette unless he was like item level 40?
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  8. #23778
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    lvlagmarink's Avatar
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    Garlean
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    Magmarink Dragregory
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    how does a tank even melt in main story roulette unless he was like item level 40?
    The kind of tank that used superbolide and died in agony
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  9. #23779
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Azeroth
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    Crowe Valtyr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Neither of these are valid reasons on their own to give your dance partner to a tank over another Dancer. There are multiple jobs with abilities that don't stack that have to manage applying them in sequence. E.g. scholar/ast shields, ast cards, scholar crit debuff, role action damage down debuffs, 4.0 embolden, etc. It's not hard with PUGs. Just wait until they use it and then use it once theirs has fallen off.
    Except when our rotation calls for us to use Devilment and Technical at certain times, waiting for someone else to get theirs off first does not work. I'd rather partner a lonely tank just so I'm not having to slow my rotation down to make way for the other Dancer to decide when they want to pop their stuff.

    Especially given most Dancers I've seen have no idea how to even play the class, tbh. At that point it's a dps loss pairing with them to begin with.

    - - - -

    To add to stories, I have one from yesterday when I was running my roulettes before work. I've been slowly leveling SCH as a change of pace, and enjoying the class despite how different it is now to when I last picked it up in ARR. I load in to my last roulette, 50/60/70 - The Burn, oh boy.

    Tank is new it seems, but for the most part the run is going fine... other than the tank apparently having to decide every pull if he thinks he can handle big boy wall to wall ones. Nothing that'll get me angry, really - just a small irritation to see him stop for an entire minute with a single mob set, we all set our AoE stuff down thinking he won't move, then the guy runs off to grab the next set and leaves all our things wasted on the ground, but... whatever, I guess.

    He at least knows enough to rotate cooldowns, has decent gear, I'm not having difficulty keeping him alive and I'm dpsing my little heart out with ground pounding.

    Then we get to Mist Dragon, and good lord.

    This tank not only turned the Dragon onto the party once, not only twice - but three times. The first time both dps ate the dirt, I ressed them both but because the SMN decided they don't have a res button, I got the dragoon up slowly due to handling incoming damage and lacking swiftcast. This resulted in us not killing all the dragon heads in time to avoid the full-circle AoE. We all get frozen, the tank conveniently in front of the dragoon again. Dragon belches on the dragoon, they die again, then the tank runs with his marker directly on top of me and the SMN.

    We wipe, of course - seeing as the tank was already low on health from getting belched on by standing in front of the dragoon, he ate the dirt with us.

    As we're running back I tell him, in all caps for emphasis, PLEASE do not turn the dragon on the party.

    What do I get?

    Smart-mouthed dps saying for me to chill and that it's just a game. Sorry, didn't know it was fine to waste the time of other people in the party by being so incompetent at basic tank 101 that you get the group killed repeatedly? There's being new to the run - that I can excuse. But the first thing a tank should know NOT to do is to face a boss on the party. In what world is that going to end well? Not knowing even basic things of your role at level 76 in level 70 content is ridiculous and my patience as a healer that run was worn out. (Both dps routinely ate AoEs thinking I'd just heal them through it for dem deeps)

    We got it on the second try - barely, after he turned it towards us yet again and we all had the good sense to bolt - but gods. I'm so tired of this entitled "is just gaem y u heff 2 be mad" mindset people have. Yes, it is just a game - but it's a game you're playing and sharing with other people. Common courtesy dictates not to waste other people's time and ruin their own enjoyment of the game just because you're incompetent.
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 09-13-2019 at 11:46 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  10. #23780
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    Aosha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Got Zurvan in Trial roulette. Sprout tank put on Iron Will and started a countdown. Then pulled, and was facing the boss at the party, cleaving everybody.
    Except it wasn't the sprout tank. The not-sprout tank had put on tank stance at the last second of the sprout's countdown, and grabbed the boss off of the sprout right away.
    ...Huh...
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