Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ilenya]

I'm seeing a lot of tanks lately who just run ahead when the last enemy of the mob is around 10%.

Why? Does it actually makes the dungeon go faster? If it does, I bet its just a couple of minutes. So, why?

I mean I understand if its 24-man raid like Void Ark (I ALWAYS got an MT who runs ahead of the group and decides to pull early. It's considered the norm now.)

But a dungeon, especially with a healer or a DPS who's new? I don't know... Just feel like some people likes to do that because they think it's "pro MLG" stuff.

Another reason I know this can be done is it gives tanks time to actually get aggro on everything while the DPS are dealing with the last enemy.

[Eidolon]

There is something always Cathartic about kicking bad tanks from the party. Today we had a tank from Goblin Server DRK in Stone Vigil (HM) who claimed that, and I quote... that he had to turn off Darkside because "I have needed to save my MP to keep hate"...


Yes. A dark knight claimed they had to keep Darkside off. To save their MP to keep hate. And wonders why he's struggling with threat. We decided to simply kick him and save ourselves the trouble - he wasn't exactly a pleasant fellow.

The hilarious part was when he tried to accuse me of "Pulling before him", when I had made very sure not to. Well, I am not sure if he was just lying, or if he earnestly believed his own words - such things are hard to tell, sadly.

[15:29](DRK) WHM, never put any kind of regen on the tank so close to the end of a fight. That is how you are getting aggro at the beginning of fights
[15:29](Ver'svesh Preah) You can click regen off
[15:29](DRK) I am well aware of that
[15:29](DRK) And I have been the entire dungeon
[15:29](BLM (me)) Using regen is a good manuever from a healer. Part of the issue is the method you use to pull, whcih gives you difficulty with your initial frontload pickup
[15:29](DRK) But when there are people like you who pull before the tank does, it's still a fight to get the aggro back
[15:29](BLM (me)) I'll admit try to avoid it towards the end, but saying that's causing aggro isn't really the case
[15:30](BLM (me)) I haven't pulled before you, even once.
[15:30](BLM (me)) I cast while you're moving in, yes.
[15:30](BLM (me)) but I haven't pulled anything on your behalf.
[15:30](DRK) No, it is not me. I have been tanking and healing with WHM since the damn game came out
[15:30](DRG)
[15:30](DRK) Yes, you have. 3 times
[15:31](BLM (me)) so why don't you have Darkside up?
[15:31](DRK) I have needed to save my MP to keep hate
[15:31](BLM (me)) Turning off Darkside doesn't hlep with that; use Blood Price while on the initial pull to get MP back
[15:32](DRK) I know my job. Learn yours
[15:32](DRG) Your funny
[15:32](BLM (me)) I haven't made any mistakes in my DPS rotation, so I'm not quite sure what that means.
*At this point we just decided to kick him*
[15:32](DRG) xD
[15:32](BLM (me)) dirtbag paladin.
[15:32](BLM (me)) er, Dark Knight* sorry I couldn't tell the difference with how little Dark Knight things he did.
[15:33](BLM (me)) this fight doesn't have a threat table. Shall we go ahead and pull and fight?
[15:33](WHM) i guess, never ran it
[15:33](BLM (me)) WHM, do you have any questions or concerns for this encounter?

[Xlantaa]

I'm still think 30 minutes DF lock is not enought. Should increase the more time people do it. It is ridiculos, startin 30, then 45, then 60, etc.

I did trial roulette, Sephirot, 2 new perosn, half of the party leaves, because they're too pro to play with news. As if they never was new eh. Waitng for replaclements, down at frist try. Ooooh, was reallyyyyy baaaad!

[Deathgiver]

I'm still think 30 minutes DF lock is not enought. Should increase the more time people do it. It is ridiculos, startin 30, then 45, then 60, etc.

I did trial roulette, Sephirot, 2 new perosn, half of the party leaves, because they're too pro to play with news. As if they never was new eh. Waitng for replaclements, down at frist try. Ooooh, was reallyyyyy baaaad!

From my experience, the people that rage quit before trying are the ones who would be causing repeated wipes anyways, I take it as a blessing when they go

[Aaliyahrose]

In a sephirot Ex group carrying an ilvl215 lancer...not a DRG...a lancer. With no cross class abilities, no soulstone, and only 10 abilities. I don't parse, but I could clearly tell that were were all out dpsing him. And I'm sure the PLD was doing the same.

I had to see it to believe it that this lancer could clear content...but its impossible to do with a group of other pugilists, gladiators, marauders, archers, etc. Sad that this person has been carried through all of the content and people are okay with it.

[Xlantaa]

From my experience, the people that rage quit before trying are the ones who would be causing repeated wipes anyways, I take it as a blessing when they go

Good point of view lol

[Ghishlain]

In a sephirot Ex group carrying an ilvl215 lancer...not a DRG...a lancer. With no cross class abilities, no soulstone, and only 10 abilities. I don't parse, but I could clearly tell that were were all out dpsing him. And I'm sure the PLD was doing the same.

I had to see it to believe it that this lancer could clear content...but its impossible to do with a group of other pugilists, gladiators, marauders, archers, etc. Sad that this person has been carried through all of the content and people are okay with it.

I think I know who you're talking about since you're on Balmung. If it is who I think it is, they also literally only have LNC leveled and don't have a single cross class either.

I've seen the guy's stream, he plays well but intentionally gimping himself as a personal challenge should only be done in a static group and not with random PuGs in my own opinion.

[Selli]

Snip.

I try to acknowledge when I am wrong, but I am nowhere near perfect at it either. It is a considerably hard thing to do.

I do admit, I do tend to post in this thread a bit. I don't see anything wrong with a bit of venting, but the main reason why I made my post was because I did not have access to the group at the time. I was hoping my response here would get someone's attention from the group or someone who may have messaged me about it in-game. Since name shaming was involved, I was trying to cover my bases as best I could.

Though, this whole mess has taught me that sometimes the two sides to each story are very different depending who tells what part. I will be making a conscious effort to post less in this particular thread and try harder to avoid a situation like this from happening again.

Tea and a cookie sounds quite lovely, by the way. Now I'm hungry. XD

[AskaRay]

Last night's EX roulette. Got Antitower.
Good run, it was me, DRK, DRG, and SCH. DRK couldn't seem to hold hate against me, though...haven't had to use so much Quelling Strikes in a while D:
It's okay though because DPS was fantastic. Everything died so quick.

[Ebonwings]

A few days ago we went into Neverreap with DRK, SCH, BLM and I, DRG. Everything was smooth till last boss, when it casts Turbine that knocked us back. The tank and blm thought it was based on Proximity so they moved as far away from the boss, but they got pushed off the cliff xD so it was left to the DRG and SCH to burn down the boss from 60% xD It kinda fun actually to see people got pushed off for the first time in Neverreap XD If you guys that ran with me read this you guys made my day to be a DRG tank for first time xD