Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Anselmet]

Ran Bardams mettle yesterday as sch with a tank friend as a gnb in pretty much all shire gear. I wanted to test out sch so I told him to do his best to die. Friend pulled everything. The first pull i did fine, but the second pull I needed disipation but it was greyed out. Tank hit the floor but the dps stayed alive long enough for him to get back up and get the mobs. After that he proceded to stand in everything and started to to less and less cds to make me suffer. To say the least sch is a monster now and bardams mettle is not the evil dungeon it once was. Had a blast tho. And my friend was disappointed I only let him die once and we technically never wiped. I imagine he will get his revenge in a shb dungeon.

[Hash_Browns]

I have problems trying to play 2 roles at once. If I go as healer I am there to heal and keep people alive. If I want to DPS then I will go on a DPS class.

Same, once I get aggro as a tank, I just stop attacking. I already have aggro, and that's my only job! I make sure to use Tomahawk to make sure I have aggro.

When i play DPS, I also make sure the healer can heal me. Avoiding attacks would be a DPS loss.

[Rivxkobe]

I have problems trying to play 2 roles at once. If I go as healer I am there to heal and keep people alive. If I want to DPS then I will go on a DPS class.

Alright. Thank you for answer the question.

If you aren't comfortable with it that makes sense.

[Lynesse]

Ah, I'll admit to my faults here. Though I dont really track too many names and faces here, so I didnt realize who I was responding to. I know I can come off that way, but i try to be more informative than aggressive... it's not always something I'm good at. I don't really intend to speak down. Somethin' I struggle with. I'm sorry to you about that. Should pay more attention to who I'm talking to so I can tailor my response accordingly. My bad. You dont have to like me or agree with me for it, but I can promise there isnt animosity on my end.


But yeah, my failings aside, I agree to these points. you dont really wanna do another mass pull when your next cooldown is another 50s off. And for bosses, too. I've found myself using/holding onto aurora to generate aggro on adds about to spawn. Or having something like heart of stone or rampart coming off cooldown for that tank buster coming 5s into the pull.
That and healer mp. I've had to stop for a haler buddy of mine not having lucid up yet.

And if a pull is lasting long enough that you've used up your cooldowns, it's going to start showing on the healer side real quick. I dont really wanna put that particular fault on the tank, though.

It's okay! Thank you for saying that. You, sir, are an angel and extremely respectable!

But you're right! It's hard to blame the tanks. That's why I was confused. I knew no one was doing anything particularly wrong.

Edit: I won't bore you too much, but I'm chalking it up to early expac adjusting. I'm learning how to SCH better, too, and that's helping. The last few dungeons have gone very smoothly.

[Millybonk]

Aurum Vale - Joined a public Group, 1 DD was a Mentor for Newbie Channel. We went to the first Boss, Healer didn't know encounter, didn't eat fruits and died. Mentor INSTANTLY left the group.

Okay, listen. If you are a Mentor, do your frking job and HELP please instead of getting frustrated and leaving. Its a responsibility - Don't be a mentor if you can't handle it. Be ashamed of yourself.

By your account you too didn't do anything to brief the healer before the fight, correct?

On topic: the usual of people not moving out of the most obvious telegraphed AoEs, tanks not using a single tank CD while pulling 2+ groups or people leaving in trials/raids after a single wipe.

Best one so far: GNB with full HP pulling 3 groups, using his 300sec+ CD which puts him at 1 health and me being unable to heal him before he dies.

[ValidFlea]

Yesterday I was running the 73 dungeon and everything went smoothly, but I had a moment of self-respect when, at the final boss when you have the DPS check before Finale (or whatever the name of that party wipe spell is), I was the only one to make it over first time.

By the time the tank made it over to help DPS, he was like 3/4th down already. Thank god for new BLM smoothness.

[Hawklaser]

General question and I mean no insult, but why do you, and people who play like you, enjoy not using their full set of abilities? What about not assisting your team in killing the enemies (meaning you need to heal less) is fun and fulfilling?

While I'm not the one you directed this question to, I might also be able to give some insight as well. When I'm brand new to any dungeon on Sch, I don't often do much DPS for the first couple runs. Mostly because don't know the dungeon, and not quite sure of the windows for it. That would be the first major factor of why I might not be doing DPS on Sch, the 2nd major factor is getting a feel for the party. If the tank isn't using enough cooldowns, or DPS keeps standing in the AoE's, it begins to put a strain on my resources sometimes to the point its hard to justify spending them on DPS instead of saving them to make sure have enough on hand to prevent a wipe.

Once I know the dungeon, and/or if the party seems decent, I'll toss out damage whenever I can do so. As the quicker the enemies die, the less chances there are for people to stand in some of the brutal AoE's.

Another thing, as I know I have done it a time or two, would be getting tunnel vision while doing one thing and overlook the other a bit too much. And some might just want to avoid that entirely.

[Dreamsoap]

I dunno why as of late, but this is a second time I did a duty with a GBK who used tank limit break. I guess it's DPS mains switching over and old habits die hard.

[DarkMasamune]

Ran like two or three 50+ dungeons lately where I ended up with a MCH that didn't use their turret. And yes I know you can't see their name plate anymore but you can see the tiny arrow on the minimap that represents a "pet" and I didn't see it either.
I can understand being confused or what because of the changes (especially on MCH) but the turret was a thing even before that...

I don't get it, isn't it an essential tool for MCH ? Or did something really massive change with ShB that made the turret obsolete ? Did I miss something ? lol

[HyoMinPark]

Well, I’ve finally finished the MSQ and got DNC to 80 (btw, best expansion so far! ), and I’ve started leveling my healers. I started with AST, so a friend and I queued into the first ShB dungeon, and we got a GNB who wasn’t using his AOE combos for packs. Which meant the DPS were tanking because he was single-targeting. My friend, who almost died three times being a NIN tank, asked for them to grab aggro off of them. GNB didn’t grab aggro. I spoke up saying that GNB had a super monstrous AOE combo that they can use (since they were only level 71), and the response was:

“I’ll use it if I feel like it.”

I replied with “Well, please use it so that I’m not having to heal the DPS and you.” Then I was told to “chill” and to “stop being nasty”.

Pardon? How is it being nasty to ask the tank to hold aggro off the DPS? My friend said, “We are chill. We just want you to hold aggro.” I said that I wasn’t even angry with it until they made the stupid comment of “I’ll use it if I feel like it.” After calling them out on that, they replied that it was “a joke” and that I “still need to chill”.

Just. Smdh...