Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Rannie]

The only thing I can think that they are trying to do is, trying to proc the free cure 2 and even then with the way mp is for whm it's hard to run out of mp unless (and sometimes not even) they're spamming cure 2. I think I've seen other whims do that and not just in those dungeons either. Each time I see that I cringe.... as well as the pre cast medica2 and regen before pulls I always die inside.

[MisterMKay]

Here's a fun one:

Decided to run GLA tonight because not feeling DPS leveling and Eureka is killing my sanity lately. Queued Copperbell and got 3 sprouts. A CNJ and 2 LNC. I like going with new sprouts because I like to run with them because it makes me appreciate all the awesome people I ran with. I let them know it was my first time running CB as a tank. No big issues through the run, but one of the LNCs gets antsy and tries pulling mobs for me. I didn't say anything, just take back aggro from them and watch them stand in front of me and pretend to tank. I probably should've said something...

Get to the second boss and nobody asked mechanics, so I pull the Ire. I then notice nobody is summoning the Blasting Cap. Fine, I'll do that. One of the DPS starts attacking the Blasting Cap and kills it. Summon another one and again... I finally tell them not to kill it so the Ire can be split. They comply, but again, nobody is using the blasting device and I try to use it with four Ires attacking me. In retrospect, I probably could have said something, but something something fight/flight mode something something... The DPS finally understand and do it for me. Rest of the dungeon goes OK minus one of the DPS DC'ing and having to kick and get a new one.

Adventures with Sprouts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But it made me appreciate tanking a bit more and now I don't feel so scared using DF since my FC is pretty small and they're... usually wont to do their own thing.

[LalaRu]

(background music: Pink Floyd) Another i42 healer in The Vault....

[SaitoHikari]

After a particularly bad week, I cleared Baldesion Arsenal for the first time today. I had intended to join a learning party since I had yet to step into BA prior, but couldn't make it to the initial frag farm/learning party because of instancing woes... And then the group invited me to join a clear party afterwards, despite myself making it very clear that I hadn't even stepped foot into the tower before.

I even recorded AV/Ozma!

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/441537727

BA is actually kind of neat, and I say this as someone that has cleared an Ultimate fight. Having one BA-style raid per expansion from here on out would be neat, hopefully not gated behind a grind as awful as Eureka in general next time.

[RokkuEkkusu]

While I'm not going to say anything about the runs themselves, just want to chime in that for tanking specifically, accessories dont offer any innate mitgation. It's purely HP. it doesnt drop any faster or slower if you have an ilvl 5 weathered, or a 380 HQ pentameld. it's really total HP is the main issue. and even in Khorchi's case, it was a WHOLE 1,000 HP! WOW!

that small bit of snark aside, being undergeared in a tank's case is generally also indicative of less experience, so that leads to less cooldowns being used and -that- is whats going to eat your tank alive. and that coupled with less health would certainly make for the illusion its purely the gear's fault. and seeing lower ilvl on accessories is like "hold up". but yeah i was mostly chiming in that having awful nigh useless accessories doesnt really impact as much as you think for tanks, since VIT doesnt affect our damage or mitigation. it's not tenacity.

I'm just remembering that in 4.0, the best tanks used level 60 STR rings. On purpose. Ilvl 270. when we had ilvl330 at the time. So.... yeah. Fun times. Heck, even now, we have ilvl 400 stuff and the BiS is 380 HQ. certainly not the highest ilvl, and it doesnt have the best VIT either.

Don't wanna sound or come off as talking down to you guys or anything, I don't know how much you guys have experience in in that regard. Clearly not saying these folks are hidden alts that are the aces in their field, just that if you run into these guys again, active mitigation is worth more than ilvl on their accessories. cant say much for the left side. keep that stuff up to date, y'all

The main reasons why the i90 left side DRK tank survived in the Aery run were because she indeed used her defensive cooldowns albeit rather randomly instead of rotating them, and I threw enhanced/extended bole at her to increase her defenses. And I looked at the character's lodestone profile and saw that the DRK is the only tank leveled. But I'll give her props for using those defensive cooldowns as there are tanks who don't use them, period.

[HyoMinPark]

Cure I is effective at all levels, when used right. Strictly casting Cure II will burn MP very fast. If they were using it in emergency situations then yeah, that's bad. But Cure I never becomes "ineffective."

Cute I is not effective in a dungeon like Bardam's Mettle or Doma Castle where even geared tanks that actively rotate their CDs can get trucked by some of the mobs/bosses in there - see the first pull of Bardam's and Doma if you do the standard and pull the first two groups, the pull with the Zu in Bardam's that gives tanks a windburn DoT, the pull before the second boss in Doma with the magitek armor. There are plenty of examples where it is not enough. You have to use Cure II in these scenarios because Cure I will barely make a dent in the auto-attack damage even a tank with CDs is taking. Same in Castrum Abania with some of its trash packs and any of the bosses - the uncasted tankbuster of the first boss can easily do half of a tank's health even with a CD up.

You'd have an argument for MP if you were discussing AST or SCH spamming Adlo, but SB WHM has plenty of tools in these dungeons to mitigate the increased cost of a more potent heal - namely Thin Air and Assize for MP regeneration.

[Driavna]

Cute I

Totally, you always go for Cute III!

[HyoMinPark]

Totally, you always go for Cute III!

Bleh. I hate posting from my phone. But that skill is probably still more effective!

[tinythinker]

Cute I

Oh, a spoiler for WHM 6.0

[Cincierta]

Last night I made another mistake of running Cutter's Cry while trying to level blm on an alt. Party comp was PLD, NIN, SCH, and me on BLM. PLD and SCH were first-timers in that dungeon, and after checking people's gears, I realized this was going to hurt. PLD had a mix of 30-32 gear, with 1-18 accessories; SCH had their artifact set on; NIN was using a mix of 30-35 gear.

To sum things up:
PLD would pull small and use flash once per group. Like, 2-3 mobs small. My inner aoe fiend was crying, and pulling aggro even with single-targeting, Diversion, and Lucid Dreaming.
SCH would only heal with Physick and Succor spam. Yes, Succor spam. Same said sch would also let the fairy run on Sic as I oftentimes saw all of the fairies cooldowns pop all at once. I also never saw them use Aetherflow, Bane, Energy Drain, or Ruin I/II.
NIN was doing their best with what they had at their disposal i.e. Katon spam, but I don't recall seeing Shadow Fang used on mobs or bosses. Though it seemed like that and Fuma were the only ninjutsu they were using on any target.

First boss was rather chaotic as the pld and nin were trying to kill adds, when it's usually better to focus down the princess.
Second boss the sch would stand in the middle and eat a ton of damage. Also apparently they have never heard of Esuna, as dots were never cleansed off. Their solution? More Succor spam!
Third boss I warn them about the eye colors (blue eyes out, violet eyes in). Sch doesn't move from blue eyes or violet eyes and they're hit with almost every aoe. I almost died when I missed a violet eye and got paralyzed, and sch still does not cleanse, but follows up with even more Succor spam and fairy autos.

But the one thing that got me the most, was when the boss was at 15% and we had just gotten LB2. You'd figure the nin or I would get to use it, right? Nope.

The tank popped LB2 when the party was fully healed.

The tank. Popped. LB2. WHEN WE WERE PERFECTLY FINE.

laskklsadjglaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

We down the boss, I comm the nin, pass on loot, and nope out of there. I ended up getting 2 comms and I have no idea why.