Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Bebekurenai]

Of course, it probably doesn't help that they've lowered tank damage over-all with 3.2, when they changed damage to ½Vit, ½Str. Sure, they improved tank stance aggro modifier, but that doesn't help the base classes =/

How is it lowering when now the primary stat, vit, now gives attack power, and str is secondary and inferior to the vit modifier? More like 2/3 vit, 1/3 str as of 3.2, or am I missing something?

[Rhyku]

Lots of terrible Midas / Ex containment stories over the weekend, but I'll say this though, some people really need to understand that not everyone can speed farm new instances within 24 hours of release. This sort of stupidity carried over in PF as well, as the Ex Containment 2 I ran with nights ago specifically marked it as a 1st time run, yet there were salty folks who cried foul and demanded vote abandons after a number of wipes. Why would you join a practice party for 1st timers if you wanted a clear party? Clearly they don't read.

[Jeibird]

had one of the funniest things ever happen on my last void ark. get to barf boss. blm is rooted to one of the pedestals (one of my pet peeves) I'm casting shadow flare and notice they didn't move an inch to dodge barf's tenta slam. they die from bleed right as their alliances scholar lustrates them, right next to me

[Adire]

Got a 1 shot A8 moments ago.

That's all that needs to be said.

[Whiteroom]

How is it lowering when now the primary stat, vit, now gives attack power, and str is secondary and inferior to the vit modifier? More like 2/3 vit, 1/3 str as of 3.2, or am I missing something?

Because 1 vit in 3.2 does not equal 1 str in 3.1. It is less. I can't confirm, but some were saying the value is actually even now, but vit is usually better do to vit acc having a couple more main stat points. However a VIT acc with Parry can actually be less valuble than a STR acc without it.

[KaijinRhada]

How is it lowering when now the primary stat, vit, now gives attack power, and str is secondary and inferior to the vit modifier? More like 2/3 vit, 1/3 str as of 3.2, or am I missing something?

If I recall, VIT and STR both have a contribution of 0.45 to AP, whereas before STR was 1:1 AP contribution, so yes tank damage went down across the board, while threat modifiers were adjusted.

[LDR]

Good runs? other day a smooth 1shot A8 with half the people new inc myself, one healer, and the MT.

Two people explained things as plainly as they could and things went really nicely.
Extra bonus was that two of the experienced people were yet to get clears so they had a wonderful run and were really happy for a 1shot after a week of trying, was a good feeling.

On the flip side my A7 first run before that was
the worst

I was on SMN and my most used skill on attempt 2 was Raise
Literally in the final 30% or so i was chaining raise with energy drains to keep it going, there was even a healer lb3. we did clear it but lord.
Neglegent OT and i a think one of the healers was doing their hair it felt like but w/e

[Noxifer]

How is it lowering when now the primary stat, vit, now gives attack power, and str is secondary and inferior to the vit modifier? More like 2/3 vit, 1/3 str as of 3.2, or am I missing something?

You can test it out, actually. I recently upgraded equipment, going up 4 in vitality. Attack power went up by 2. Decided to test it and exchanged one of my remaining STR accessories with one giving 4 less STR, went down 2 in Attack power. It might not be exactly ½STR and ½VIT, but somewhere close enough that 4 in either is rounded off to 2 Attack power. And if you look at people's numbers... A high-end tank* prior to 3.2 having around 1000-1100 in AP went to around 850 in AP after 3.2. And the only adjustments to enmity modifiers (as far as I could tell from the patch notes) was via the tank stances. In other words, while the Attack power reduction affects new tanks (the ones who haven't unlocked their jobs yet), the enmity adjustment does not.

*) Yes, this was a STR tank. A pure VIT tank would have gone up in AP since VIT did nothing for AP before, but in low levels pretty much the only accessories available for tanks are STR accessories (the first VIT accessory comes at lvl 19, but I know I personally never looked twice at it due to the stats on them), so... sure, the numbers are smaller, so the difference won't be ~150-200 points, but a difference of about 15-20% is quite a bit.

but vit is usually better do to vit acc having a couple more main stat points. However a VIT acc with Parry can actually be less valuble than a STR acc without it.

VIT accessories are also made more worthwhile for tanks by having more VIT on them than the STR accessories have STR. At least the newly added ones, haven't looked at the old ones to see if it's correct there too.

[Lmcgyver]

I just came out of one of the slowest Longstop runs I've ever seen. Queued up for mentor roulette as PLD, get into the Longstop (not happy, because no tank stance, but it's not too difficult anyway). The rest of the party is an AST, a MNK and a BLM. By the time we get to the first boss, I've realized something's amiss. Healer's doing alright, letting my HP drop a bit low for the sake of DPS, but never letting me die, so I can't complain. As for the DPS, the MNK is sitting in one place, not moving for positionals (however, they're level 34, I can forgive this)... but the BLM is doing next to nothing. A bit of study of their "rotation" revealed why - They opened with Fire III (good), then started using Fire II about every 5s or so... then once their MP was empty, they waited for Astral Fire to wear off, wait for MP to regen enough, then used Thunder II followed by Ruin. Yes, that's right, the Arcanist spell Ruin. On a black mage. A level 58 black mage. I've seen Ice Mages before... but an All-But-Ice Mage? I would take Ice Mages any day x_x

Doing my job as a Mentor, I offer to the DPS, if they wanted some tips for their classes... no response. Pull the next group of mobs, and decide that my patience is going to be running dry by the end of the dungeon, so a full clear (as I normally do if requested) is out of the question, and I instead opt for as fast of a clear as I could do. When we reach the third boss, I pause to offer a few tips (MNK to try moving for attacks to increase damage, BLM to try using Blizzard instead of Ruin when out of MP)... no response, and the BLM decides to pull Hellbender as I'm typing. Briefly consider just letting them die, before noticing the healer (who's actually doing pretty well) run in to heal them, so with a sigh, I run in and pull aggro off the BLM. At Aiatar, the MNK finally starts making an effort to move for positionals (yay!)... though that effort doesn't last long (aww...). Doing my best to keep the dragon out of the poison (he spent no longer than 2s in any puddle), we had limit break II when he was at about 50% health.

Finally get Aiatar down, comm the healer, and take my leave before my patience snapped.

[HyoMinPark]

Currently doing my dailies. Currently in my Level 60 Roulette.

Got Neverreap.
First tank insta-left.
Wait about 5 minutes.
Second tank joins.
Also leaves after 10 seconds.

orz

Will keep everyone posted.
(I JUST WANT TO CAP MY LORE I AM SO CLOSE)

EDIT: So we ended up just abandoning the duty because no tank showed up after we waited a total of 15 minutes (including the times the first two left). Was kind of sad because the other DPS was new, and missed out on the eso bonus from him. Seemed like a pretty cool guy though. Definitely would have gotten my comm, and not only because of the nice bonus. :3

My friend and I ran our Ex Roulette together too, and got the Antitower. No one was new, and the tank was a mentor, but he was doing ridiculous pulls and spamming moves, so no matter how much I played my TP song (he was a WAR), he was always out of TP. And he was very squishy so my friend's MP was draining trying to keep him alive. ;; We didn't wipe any though, so that was good. The other DPS also randomly went AFK for several minutes. At first we thought he was lagging, but after poking him/the tank spamming macros trying to get the person's attention, they came back and said "Sry had emergency." ._.

My friend did die once on the second boss because the tank wouldn't pull the spriggan adds off of her (she was running as AST and healing them like crazy because squishy ;; ), but the boss was almost dead, so we didn't need to worry too much. However, tank didn't wait for her to catch up before doing another massive pull, and we were lucky to get out of that alive (well, he and the other DPS were because I just tried to not generate any enmity at all because I didn't want to die either ;; ).