Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[MeiUshu]

This is the reason why I tend to have Protect (and sometimes Stoneskin) as the first crossclass skills/spells on my classes ^^; Since most non-CNJ/WHM healers tend to crossclass Cleric Stance (as people have said) first, it means I can throw up a Protect, even when it's not really needed for that level dungeon ^^; But hey, why not?
(Also to annoy my WHM friends when I queue with them, because I have Stoneskin and they don't xD)

even if I have the right to have only 1 cross class doesnt mean I cant switch. I use cleric stance as first cross class but when I run low level I switch give protect switch back to cleric and i am good...no need to bother with that again...it is pretty easy to do. I ask for a few secs to get out of CD and there we go.

[Ilenya]

even if I have the right to have only 1 cross class doesnt mean I cant switch. I use cleric stance as first cross class but when I run low level I switch give protect switch back to cleric and i am good...no need to bother with that again...it is pretty easy to do. I ask for a few secs to get out of CD and there we go.

You can just turn on Swiftcast, switch to protect, and Swiftcast will still be active. Just a fun tip.

[Noxifer]

even if I have the right to have only 1 cross class doesnt mean I cant switch. I use cleric stance as first cross class but when I run low level I switch give protect switch back to cleric and i am good...no need to bother with that again...it is pretty easy to do. I ask for a few secs to get out of CD and there we go.

Yeah, I know ^^ But not everyone does that. In the beginning, back when I was thinking I'd main PLD, I always kept Protect and/or Stoneskin on, and when I went as a healer or dps, I kept expecting GLA/PLD tanks to do the same and use those. But no ;_; So that's when I started to use Protect and/or Stoneskin on my dps classes. And why I'm often running stuff as archer or lancer even now when I'm slowly creeping upwards in levels ^^;

On that note, I should probably do my BRD quests to gain new skills (the only one I've done is the level 30 one, and I'm 44 now). And I should probably unlock DRG... At some point ^^; (And before someone thinks to berate me for that: No, I don't play them often, and even more rarely in dungeons with strangers.)


*cough* Back on topic

Had a fun run this morning before heading to bed. Me and my flatmate are altoholics, and I have the maximum of 8 characters on Phoenix, though two of them are ones I don't play and just use these days to try out Fantasia possibilities before wasting any of my precious potions on my actual characters. So anyways... We were doing the 2.4 MSQ on one pair of alts, working on getting them to HW. Unlock Snowcloak and figure that with how late it was (closer to 7am) it'd probably take a while to get in, but we might as well queue up and see what'd happen. Surprisingly, we get an almost instapop.

Since we're still not top geared (around i105-i110), I decide to do "half pulls". By the time we've downed the first pull and I get ready to pull the wolves, the SMN in the group asks who the new person is. I say that I'm new, but on an alt so I know the place, at the same time as my flatmate says that we both are "new". While I'd expected the SMN to have asked the question due to the "OMG SCRUB NOOBS" mentality that some people seem to have, he is then upset by the fact that there are two new people.... because he usually commends the new person for giving him bonus tomes xD And now he can't, because he can't commend both of us.

It was a good run; I use up all my TP and MP on Flash and Overpower to avoid losing aggro to the synched SMN or WHM, and even if I get scarily close sometimes and even lose one or two mobs (usually by the time they're close to death) there's no particular chaos, which is a relief. I can even take a few seconds here and there to throw out a comment or response in the party chat.

I've been burned by DF parties before (just earlier with that alt pair, we got a MNK in Ramuh HM who first pulled before us tanks had time to quickly agree on MT, and then after death took two or three Raises to get to her feet, after which not a single attack was performed, just random running around behind and to the side of Ramuh... doing "positionals" *rolls eyes*), but this group did a lot to patch that up ♥

[Whiteroom]

PF, not DF but have to say it.

I'm pretty new to savage myself, first time I bothered was yesterday (but yay I cleared). So I join a learning party today, with the hopes of refining it. I ask the other healer if they want to dps faust, or me.

"I don't dps."

I had a sinking feeling right there. It works in dungeons, but come on, this is a Savage learning party, people have to be willing to play to the best of their class, or at least try to.

So I try to dps on Faust, but I have to keep dropping cleric to heal the tank, and have to stay permaheal from 50%, in the end tank dies, and we barely kill Faust with two dps left standing.

Then I try to dps until split, but the SCH is reactively healing everything and I have to go back to heal immediately. Things start going bad after .5 and admittedly a poorly timed assiez from me screws us (I did call it though and apologize, I will admit my mistakes). Tank leaves and we're done.(she had mentioned dps was like 0 so I suspect she knew exactly what it was and left, but come on "learning party")

It's bad enough when people won't play their whole job in end game, but when you can't play the core function of it well, it hurts.

[_slowpoke_]

"I don't dps."

I had a sinking feeling right there. It works in dungeons, but come on, this is a Savage learning party, people have to be willing to play to the best of their class, or at least try to.

To be fair, when you first step into Savage (and are maybe new to progression raiding), it's okay even as a SCH to focus on healing, then gradually shift to primarily DPSing (especially if both healers are new and not used to the timings yet). However, it sounds more like they refuse to DPS in general, and from what you described about their healing abilities, they probably just were a shitty player.

Hope you can find a better learning party next time.

[Whiteroom]

To be fair, when you first step into Savage (and are maybe new to progression raiding), it's okay even as a SCH to focus on healing, then gradually shift to primarily DPSing (especially if both healers are new and not used to the timings yet). However, it sounds more like they refuse to DPS in general, and from what you described about their healing abilities, they probably just were a shitty player.

Hope you can find a better learning party next time.

Oh I definitely took it as "I don't dps at all." Instead of "I'm new, so I would prefer not to dps yet".

Especially since I'm almost positive they are a forum member who is quite against dps and parsers and all things that push people to play better.

Ty, I know I'll get a good team, I just got a new fc and am getting back into raiding a bit.

[Vele]

But see this is why I don't play PGL (because that's totes the reason you got a bad party. Absolutely)
At least you uh. Finished the dungeon? Yeah

I got two levels out of it, too! I'm really feeling that, though. I got pgl to lv15 maybe 7 or 8 months ago to unlock brd. I thought I'd try something new today, I'm just sitting around waiting for the patch, so I dusted it off... and now I'm going to go back to ignoring it.

I'm also one of those with cleric stance as their first crossclass skill on sch/ast, since the buff from protect is negligible in sastasha and tam-tara. Luckily I didn't run into any tanks who complained about it when I was leveling.

I can forgive that sch for strictly healing, though. Personally I didn't learn stance dancing was even a thing until lv50 (and this person wasn't, judging from their gear). But I'm still scratching my head over why swiftcast would be in the first slot...

[AskaRay]

snoop

You're doing better than me. Haven't touched PGL since. uh. Um
I guess Nov 2014? I don't actually remember. Got my lvl 15 went "great sweet now I can be a brd" and pretty much never looked at it again
Swiftcast to you know, summon Eos quickly! Or get that cure out fast! I don't know. I also took a while to learn to stance dance...but until then my first CC was Protect (it's also CS now)...
some people are just a mystery

[Niwashi]

But I'm still scratching my head over why swiftcast would be in the first slot...

Likely set it up without thinking about how slot position interacts with level sync, and just picked an important skill to put in first. (At least they had cross-class skills set up. I've seen players before who, despite having leveled enough to unlock some useful cross-class skills, never actually assigned any.)

[Lunaxia]

When you're a healer just trying to get the Vault done quickly for daily roulette and you get DPS with non-augmented Ironworks gear and an ilevel 115 weapon.