Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

I like it when you mention you're learning a new class, in my case sch, and EVERYONE runs off before protect, stands in ALL the red circles ever, NEVER stacks and dies to EVERYTHING. For context, I'm leveling my sch and it's currently 55, I know people will say I should know everything at this level, but I'm trying healing for the first time and I'm a slow learner. This group I get into the 54 dungeon was nisane. Noone waited for heals, or protect. They yelled at me for literally saying I'm new, and proceeded to stand in everything and purposely get hit and die, laughing at me saying I suck cause I couldn't heal them fast enough. I'm over here like " Dude, I can't heal literally lazy freaking stupid. Why are you standing in ALL of the AOES?" Then I was literally told, " It's your job to heal even if I don't move. Cause you're tryign to DPS we all hate you." My leveling experience up to this point has been okish and most people have been understanding and helpful. But this one group made me want to quit the game literally. Why are people so freaking horrible?

Oh, I so feel you. My first trip to 70 was on a Scholar. Try learning not just the class but the entire game with nothing but zoom tanks that expected you to just "keep up". XD

[Aster_E]

I just got back from yet another break, and ran a few things for weeklies. With the exception of two raids--09s and o12n, the latter of which I queued in progress to help a fc mate--and one normal trial for an alt, every other 8 or 24-man content I did saw a bad co-healer, and sometimes a poor tank. So I basically had to carry those co-healers while maintaining MP and some level of DPS. I get it, some people like my heals on Whm or Sch when I am actually awake, but that doesn't mean randos shouldn't at least try too. <_<

Also, almost every 4-man dungeon I ran had a tank who only ever wanted to single pull, despite Adlo critting and me asking for bigger pulls, at least until my alt Lyra got to Stormblood content finally. Then the tanks decided to pull big through Sirensong and Shisui (and good gods that taxed my MP and ability to do any dps). Just good grief, folks. lol

Speaking of my alt Lyra: I had to get help from fc mates to do HoH floors 1-20 since those floors are almost abandoned, unlike even floors 1-50 of PotD at this point. Luckily that's all done so I can move on and do another 25-ish runs for floors 21-30 to get Lyra's Sch to 70. Her Bard is still doing PotD until that job is finally high enough to wear the glam I picked out.

(That's right, I decided to level a job on my alt character just for glam reasons)

[Kallistra]

Wow, that is a lot of replies. Thank you guys so much. I'm very touched by the amount of support you all have for me. I was pretty upset about the run last night and most of today, but after getting it off my chest and seeing the replies coming from it, I feel a lot better now.

I've been tanking in this game since I started playing, so this hasn't turned me off from tanking...I just won't be tanking by myself for a little while. I really should have just left the run myself. I was pretty tempted to after the second boss, but I just wanted to get the roulette done so I could go to bed. If I had been there on a level 70 and wasn't trying to get EXP out of it, I probably would have.

I was pretty mad so I didn't report before I logged out, however the contact list did save the names of my healers so I was able to file one when I got home earlier this evening. In fact, thanks to the contact list, Selli and I did some digging and found that the MT and the healers in my party were not only from the same server, but the same FC as well. I think at least one or both of his healers were in the FC too, so it looked as if they queued my healers + some DPS and MT + a third/fourth healer. One of the DPS in my party was sub 70 so they might have been going through the 24 man quests to help them out and queued manually for Dun. This could also explain why the healers knew the MT was freaking out even if they weren't reading Alliance chat (which I felt like they weren't based off the brief conversations we had). Don't take this as fact, but this is just speculation and what makes the most sense to me.

I also neglected to mention in my story that there were a few occasions after the MT had been raised where I would rip aggro off him accidentally. I did not check his gear and this only really happened when he first got up and was going through his Halone combo after provoking, even though I was in Deliverance and building gauge. This happens sometimes when reestablishing aggro (especially since I couldn't Shirk him to help), so I didn't think anything of it, but it might have added fuel to this guy's fire.

[Aster_E]

BTW, Kal, if no one else is on and you need to run something like a raid or roulette, maybe hit me up? I can probably help, and back you up if you encounter more assholes like that, besides.

[DBriggs304]

This. I mean, I don't mind a bit of leeway if someone pops into Brayfox or Qarn without a job stone. But by the time you hit 40, or certainly 50, it ought to be a requirement.

I have to admit this mistake. Early last year after really deciding to get into the game, I think I was a 24 or 25 pugilist and was in a dungeon.

People at the end told me I should be a monk by now. I had no clue that the cutscene was when I got the stone.

Really the biggest bonehead move I have done so far, but at least they were cool with it.

[Barraind]

I'm not sure whats more sad - the DRK not knowing those pulls, or me still recalling them 5 years after the dungeon was relevant...),

I've done AK synced 1 time and unsynced a few hundred, so my answer to "optimal pulls" is "the entire floor?"

[MetalSnakeXI1]

This story is a month and a half old in December and I've been hesitant to tell as I wanted to move on from recounting my o8s pugging experience over and over again especially since I cleared it over 5 times on the previous week alone after my january clear but it's been nagging me like hell for a while and I need to know what you guys think about it.

It's about someone I blacklisted during the pugging process....a bard.

I met that bard for the first time on a o8s pf I joined back then since I didn't feel like opening a pf at the time,I enter in and find this bard in the middle of his static kicking him out for not getting his clear early enough as they had scheduled their UwU practice at that time.

The bard proceeds to rant almost endlessly and was contemplating the decision to quit the game because of that,I did feel a bit sorry for him so I decided to befriend him and help through a couple of instances and during the o8s pugging process too.

At first things went fine for a while until the day he came in and claimed he cleared o8s without me and he insisted on helping me.....this were things got sketchy and flatout suspicious

I befriended 6 other people through the pugging process too(and they've been wonderful people) but obviously not all of them can be online at the same time depending on timezone and schedule so sometimes some can join and some couldn't.

And then it happened,that bad day I did vent about back in december(for those who read my thread about my anxiety and panic issues during raids...btw thanks for the emotional support to everyone who commented on that thread when I was a complete wreck),it all began with the Bard inviting me to his new "static" during their farm party,by that time I made it to enrage so I've seen the whole fight,he tells them to invite me in and then he sends me a tell with "Please if u don't know the fight please bow out early,don't want my farm to be ruined"

That right there should've been my signal that something was wrong but because I was a moron,I just bit it in cuz I was desperate due to how bad my pugging process was during december so I bit it,got in and was asked to be a dragoon.Wipes happen on Forsaken 1 and his static started blaming me for almost all of them when I only caused like...1 of them.That skyrocketed my anxiety and I was in a constant panic state until I decided to just leave the party and go to another pf......things got worse as on that PF with 3 people from his static who made fun of me for asking the summoner to rez the healer with sarcastic remarks like "And SMN can learn Trick Attack too" cuz the summoner was too lazy to put Ressurection on his hotbar and refused to rez the healers when they were down,the pf of course failed and they disband but not before jabbing me one last time about asking the SMN for rezzing healers.

I opened a up around 3 pfs and that Bard "friend" I mentioned earlier joined every single one of them and then I began to notice,on almost ALL the wipes we had in God Kefka he's been inside Kefka's hitbox on every Wings of Destruction,on the first pf I didn't immediately realize it with how bad my mood throughout the day was,the second PF happens and I got the two troll tanks I mentioned back then and then on the 3rd and final pf of the day where my 6 pug friends joined in to help.And this was the last straw that made me furious at that bard and made me blacklist him.

Beside him causing wipes even on base Kefka where he was on the floor for most of it,he acted like a jacka*** and pretended he didn't know what Celestriad is in chat as we transition to God Kefka,he was acting incredibly rude towards all of my pugging friends and kept going on and on and on during discord chat AND in-game chat about how he's doing me a favor,how much I need him and the like and kept sending me tells about how my friends are s***heads when they literally said nothing rude to him and only called him out as politely as they can about his mistakes which he kept making constantly,to the point that his monk friend from his own static,who joined in to help,told him to chill out.

After the nightmarish process I just broke in a fit of depression and disbanded the party as I didn't want to waste my friends's time with this nonsense,I apologize to each one of them(and each one were incredibly nice and didn't even think it was my fault when I was apologizing like crazy and blaming myself for everything),I get fed up with that Bard so I ended up removing him from my friendlist,add him to my sadly growing blacklist,and spent the rest of the day crying(I won't blame you if u think I'm pathetic for this considering how old I'm)and ended up taking a week long break from the game.

Sorry for the long drivel about what's now an incredibly irrelevant story but I want to know from you,was I wrong for blacklisting that Bard?Did I overreact? It's still nagging me to this day and sometimes I feel a bit of guilt about it.

[Iscah]

I have to admit this mistake. Early last year after really deciding to get into the game, I think I was a 24 or 25 pugilist and was in a dungeon.

People at the end told me I should be a monk by now. I had no clue that the cutscene was when I got the stone.

Really the biggest bonehead move I have done so far, but at least they were cool with it.

If you actually were Lv24-25 and not misremembering that, it was the other players' error. You can't become a monk until Lv30.



A more general thought about the class and job quests - I know they can't really integrate with MSQ all that easily, but it would be good if they had thought to have something of a "story break" around that Lv30 point where the player feels like they can step away from following that plot without interrupting anything. (Not that the Lv30ish quests are that good, but it's still a constant flow from one plot point to the next.

Perhaps even a dialogue hint (if not an outright progress lock) as we lead directly up to the Titan trial that "you need to be at peak performance for this battle - have you been keeping up with your guild training?"

I guess it might have been a bit messier back when there were multiple class requirements to unlock jobs. Did people have the same expectations then about people having upgraded to their job by the time they're in any Lv30+ content? Or was there more leeway, at least in those lower levels?

[SaitoHikari]

-snip-

I'm not gonna lie, your story actually made quite a few people in the various discords I'm in really legit upset, to an incredible degree. I think in the interests of those people, they might want to know of this FC (or at least the healers and MT) through discord, just so we know what to expect should we run into them.

Too bad we can't pre-emptively blacklist people without physically seeing them first.

[Sigma-Astra]

People in this game suck story

If I were one of your DPS in that party, I would have spoke up for you. I would have told the tank "If you keep eating the floor, then you don't deserve to be MT, go back to Sastasha until you know how to mitigate damage properly. While you're at it, go see a counselor for your anger issues and God complex too."

I would have told the healers "It is YOUR job to HEAL, not play favorites, not think that you have some kind of authority over who lives or who dies in the raid group. If your tanks are low on health? You heal. DPS low on health? You heal. People dead. You raise. If you can't do ANY of the main components of your job, then drop healer as your main job and go play botanist because there are plenty of other healers out there who will. You're easily replaced. You're not rare."

And to the other DPS chiming in, "Your job is to do damage, not point fingers or blame that you have no business chiding in. I bet some of you got hit by AoE's and debuffs didn't you? You're not innocent either."

And then I probably would have gotten vote kicked with you because people in this game cannot stand when you tell them they suck in less than sugar-coated words. But, at least you would have had a buddy!