Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Vidu]

I've been bored enough for mentor roulettes again and would like to share two of my recent ones...

The first one - in progress AV. 18 minutes elapsed, first boss still alive, aswell as most of the mobs in the first room. Party consist of a new paladin and blm (both german) and a level 60+ dragoon.
My level 50 sprout-paladin hasnt figured out the magic that is "flash" yet, so the first pull is basically everyone tanking - I someone manage to keep myself, the tank and the dragoon alive and we only need to account for a dead blm, most likely because they were standing in the swamp (and I neither had the time, the ressource nor - to be honest - the will to heal through that).
I could go into details about every horrible minute of that 40 minute run, but I dont want to type a novel - so just the highlights:
- even after the third explantion the tank doesnt get the concept of flash. I finally explain in german, only to have to repeat myself 5 minutes later when a bunch of mobs comes over to eat my face off after I cast the first heal.
- the dragoon is trying to help the tank - by marking mobs. In a complete nonsense-order. And with a tank who doesnt even understand/follow those marks.
- dragoon also has little clue on how to play paladin and tells the tank to flash during the last bossfight - while the tank had a strong aggrolead and there were no adds present... I can appericiate the thought and the wish to help, but... if you dont actually know what you're talking about, dont talk about it, maybe?
- bossfights were hell. I ran out of mana several times, because no one was able to avoid AoEs at all, follow eating-orders (that were given in both english and german) or use cooldowns. Dps was pretty bad too, so it took them ages to die.

I get people being new and everything, but this tank was really pushing it... level 50 and not having figured out flash? Thats... bad.

My second story at least isnt as bad - its AK, inprogress aswell. From the conversation I gather that everyone of my teammates joined in progress and that non of the original members is left - whoever they were, they made it to the first boss, but not past it. Despite the DRK not knowing the optimal pulls for the dungeon (I'm not sure whats more sad - the DRK not knowing those pulls, or me still recalling them 5 years after the dungeon was relevant...), nothing intresting happens.
...until we kill the demon wall and proceed to find our way to the last boss totally mob-free. No succubi, no ahriman, no dulhans patrolling... nothing.
And I have no idea why. Did they nerf the dungeon again by removing not only the bees but also a third of the trash-mobs? Can anyone enlighten me?

[MetalSnakeXI1]

I've been bored enough for mentor roulettes again and would like to share two of my recent ones...

The first one - in progress AV. 18 minutes elapsed, first boss still alive, aswell as most of the mobs in the first room. Party consist of a new paladin and blm (both german) and a level 60+ dragoon.
My level 50 sprout-paladin hasnt figured out the magic that is "flash" yet, so the first pull is basically everyone tanking - I someone manage to keep myself, the tank and the dragoon alive and we only need to account for a dead blm, most likely because they were standing in the swamp (and I neither had the time, the ressource nor - to be honest - the will to heal through that).
I could go into details about every horrible minute of that 40 minute run, but I dont want to type a novel - so just the highlights:
- even after the third explantion the tank doesnt get the concept of flash. I finally explain in german, only to have to repeat myself 5 minutes later when a bunch of mobs comes over to eat my face off after I cast the first heal.
- the dragoon is trying to help the tank - by marking mobs. In a complete nonsense-order. And with a tank who doesnt even understand/follow those marks.
- dragoon also has little clue on how to play paladin and tells the tank to flash during the last bossfight - while the tank had a strong aggrolead and there were no adds present... I can appericiate the thought and the wish to help, but... if you dont actually know what you're talking about, dont talk about it, maybe?
- bossfights were hell. I ran out of mana several times, because no one was able to avoid AoEs at all, follow eating-orders (that were given in both english and german) or use cooldowns. Dps was pretty bad too, so it took them ages to die.

I get people being new and everything, but this tank was really pushing it... level 50 and not having figured out flash? Thats... bad.

My second story at least isnt as bad - its AK, inprogress aswell. From the conversation I gather that everyone of my teammates joined in progress and that non of the original members is left - whoever they were, they made it to the first boss, but not past it. Despite the DRK not knowing the optimal pulls for the dungeon (I'm not sure whats more sad - the DRK not knowing those pulls, or me still recalling them 5 years after the dungeon was relevant...), nothing intresting happens.
...until we kill the demon wall and proceed to find our way to the last boss totally mob-free. No succubi, no ahriman, no dulhans patrolling... nothing.
And I have no idea why. Did they nerf the dungeon again by removing not only the bees but also a third of the trash-mobs? Can anyone enlighten me?

I think those mobs are in AK(Hard) but im not sure

[Endeleon]

If you keep dying over and over to avoidable mechanics, you have literally no right to scream in chat for healers to use LB3. I'm so sick of seeing this. They'll use it when it's safe for them to use it. Maybe stop being such a bad player then they wouldn't have to. Shinryu NM, Rabanastre... why are entire parties still wiping to easy mechanics like the face away and trample stuff?

[KaivaC]

Only thing I can think of is they wanted everyone to run away so the debuff (Blight? Been awhile) falls off. If you get sucked into the tear with it on it'll get extended and likely last the whole phase.

Yeah, that's the only thing I can think of as well. From what I heard, it used to be a strat used a lot where you pop your buffs a few seconds before the Blight falls up so that you'll have those extended when you're inside the tear. Nowadays people don't do it - either because nobody told them about it, or because gear level doesn't make it necessary to do.

[Ceridwenae]

Daw that's adorable

Rarely do I ever see parents support their kids if they're hobby happened to be gaming....let alone actually playing with their kid through a game since 90% of parents I see thinks video games are made by the devil or some other stupid accusations.

Kudos to you for being an awesome parent ^_^

Heehee, thanks. Me and Hubby figured a long time ago our kid would be a gamer - it would be very hypocritical of us if we'd said she couldn't play stuff, considering we both met in a game a long while back, when pixels were even more... pixelly. That's not to say we haven't had to use judgement on what she's allowed to play, but it's a lot easier when she plays the same things as us.

[LolitaDecay]

Returner here - been back about a week and have noticed a huge dip in quality of players doing low level content, especially Qarn (which is bizarre).

I'm all for explaining and walking people through mechanics, especially if they show a willingness to learn, but finding the general attitude is pretty poor at the moment. Like this morning doing my levelling roulette - tank kept dying in Qarn because the bees weren't being targeted and he wanted to pull two groups of adds at once. Totally fine and explained that people needed to target the bees so tank doesn't die. Ended up leaving after people ignored this advice three times.

[Kleeya]

Returner here - been back about a week and have noticed a huge dip in quality of players doing low level content, especially Qarn (which is bizarre).

Some people i know have been complaining about that as well, like for example an increase of low level dps who dont have a clue that you have to let the tank pull things. Seems like it is tied to ARR being currently offered for free if you have twitch prime, which brings a lot of players who have never played a mmo before, and dont know what a trinity is. It will probably settle down when most of the 30 days tied subscriptions are over.

[LolitaDecay]

Ah yup, also heard about that and it does explain things. Such a shame because some people do genuinely want to learn (had one lovely tank who openly asked for advice at the beginning but the dps didn't want to wait around and aggro'd EVERYTHING while complaining about the tank).

[MetalSnakeXI1]

Some people i know have been complaining about that as well, like for example an increase of low level dps who dont have a clue that you have to let the tank pull things. Seems like it is tied to ARR being currently offered for free if you have twitch prime, which brings a lot of players who have never played a mmo before, and dont know what a trinity is. It will probably settle down when most of the 30 days tied subscriptions are over.

That and the so-called "WoW refugees" jumping over from the BFA expansion,some of which I see buy job/scenario boosts so u see them even in level 50/60 dungeons and even 70 sometimes who still has no idea how to play their job or worse keep low level gear into high level dungeon

I met a Dark Knight on The Burn that kept dying at full health from one tankbuster from Mist Dragon the whole time,no shadow wall,no Ramprant,no Dark Mind and worst of all no Blackest Knight,worse yet that DRK still carries some shire gear(somehow) during all of this.

[AxHell]

So today I was called a "little b*ch" because during the final boss of Orbonne Monastery, during the transition phase with the add and where healers have to heal, I dared to tell them, after our alliance's death, to pay attention to the obvious numbers that are decreasing at an alarming rate otherwise known as HP.
The excuse? "We were looking at her face and special effects, we're new don't be a little b*tch."
I can forgive them for dying to a mechanic or not understanding one but not healing HP because something is shiny? Not sure