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  1. #18891
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    SannaR's Avatar
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    I've noticed this across many MMOs. There are some players that just seem to think marks are for goofing around. When in any MMO with a marking system, if I do something like mark a spot or mark a kill order or mark the tanks... I find marks start appearing on random people, getting swapped around, or moved, etc...

    Over it WoW it's a tradition to mark the tank (honestly surprised I don't see it here where the graphics can be a LOT more intense)... and sure enough, if you're in a PUG raid and somebody marks the tank, half the time somebody else will randomly apply all the other marks around the raid...
    I'm fine with marking places to bring things or markers on people for certain mechanics but not a out of the blue and probably used to harass/lay blame on markers on tanks or healers that don't need to be there. Like back when you couldn't unsync coil and you were doing T8 everyone got a marker so you'd know who'd had to go in and help share certain mechanics. Or if you're teaching someone how to do a fight so you mark a person as a hey follow this person.

    Also yes even the times I've left the damn marker on while tanking in Wod I'd still get the blame for the other two tank's not doing their jobs even if that was just picking up adds or helping inside Cerberus. And yes that's like the only place I tend to see the oh we gotta mark the tanks mentality normally brought on by someone who has to micro manage the run.
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  2. #18892
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    It's been a day of weird party members.

    Leveling roulette: Sastasha as healer. Someone is new and all three players have classes rather than jobs.

    The tank a bit shaky on picking up enemies, and is using a macro that automatically marks enemies with <1> and <2> tags. At the first boss fight with Madison, this marks him as 1 rather than marking both the minions that are actually meant to be fought first.

    Then we get to the captain's quarters and instead of fighting the pirate that has the key, we tiptoe around them and fight the door guards first. Of course the other guy and the guard wolf come in halfway through.

    Up to this point I've assumed maybe they're newish and not practised at tanking, but we get to the final boss and they do the weird pull over to the far corner that players occasionally do, so we can't stop the adds from coming.

    "Tank him in the middle please," I ask.

    "Just let the adds come to me."

    So, not new, and confident.

    (I don't know, maybe it saves a few seconds or something? But it just seems annoying and disruptive and "not how you're supposed to do it".)

    ---

    50/60 roulette: Amdapor Keep as tank.

    The party just seems slow. Things stay at low health without dying. The healer keeps regenning me between battles and the bard is pulling things ahead of me. At one point the two DPS run off ahead while I'm still waiting for the healer to come through a teleport.

    At the end, I intend to go back for chests so I wait for the party to leave, because it seems odd to be running back into the dungeon. The healer is apparently waiting for me to leave. We stand there awkwardly. They blow a kiss and 'dote'. ...um. Right then. I wave goodbye. They still aren't leaving. Maybe they want to get the chests too.

    I give up and sprint off. They follow partway along the corridor, then stop and return to the exit. They leave before I've gotten to any of the treasure.

    I don't understand what was going on.

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    Guildhest roulette: Lv10 "Under the Armour" as black mage.

    The healer completely fails to do their job. Doesn't cast Protect at the start, and halfway through (as the number of enemies increases) I realise the tank's HP is dropping like a stone. They actually die before the boss does. Sure, we finished without them, but still.

    Sadly they depart before I can use the /huh emote to give the "X fails to understand [target]" text message.
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  3. #18893
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post

    Guildhest roulette: Lv10 "Under the Armour" as black mage.

    The healer completely fails to do their job. Doesn't cast Protect at the start, and halfway through (as the number of enemies increases) I realise the tank's HP is dropping like a stone. They actually die before the boss does. Sure, we finished without them, but still.

    Sadly they depart before I can use the /huh emote to give the "X fails to understand [target]" text message.
    Protect is level 16 if the healer isn't 16 when unsync you can wait all you want for protect it won't happen.
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  4. #18894
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Not one specific incident but what's with people being trigger happy with vote abandon in alliance raids? I get it if we wipe several times without making progress, or if it's clear the instance won't be cleared in the time we have left, but when things are mostly going well and then we get a couple wipes, but wipes with progress, on Thunder God it's not unusual to see someone trying to vote abandon.
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  5. #18895
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Remember my previous post on buying jump potions and immediately going into roulette without setting skills and reading your tooltips? I have to reiterate again. PLEASE READ YOUR TOOLTIPS AND SET YOUR SKILLS!

    I had not one, but TWO people who jump potted their PLD and SCH in Gubal normal while trying to finish up SAM on an alt. The PLD thought Flash was a useless skill and would either spam Total Eclipse, Circle of Scorn or use the basic convoluted combo you get before 26(fast blade, savage blade, riot blade). Each time the MCH and I would rip hate, and we pleaded with him to use Flash. No response. We trudge through and get to the first boss.

    Mind you, the entire hallway up to the first boss, the sch was just spamming Physick. No Adlo, no Miasma I/II, no Bane, no Shadow Flare, and their fairy was never out. Not even a Broil either. I asked if they could summon Eos, and the sch replied 'Who's that?' After dying a little on the inside, I explain she's your fairy companion that helps you heal. 'Oh,' she says, 'I don't have her. All I have are these two doggies that are blue and yellow.'

    ...wat?

    Unfortunately I didn't get much more time to explain the differences as the pld went into the first boss room and slapped the book. Repel comes up and I realize only the mch and I run behind the book. As the boss starts casting, I realize the sch is heavied, and I suddenly have flashbacks. Disclosure finishes and both the pld and sch die. We wipe since it was too early in the boss fight.

    After both the MCH and I reminding them that they need to stay out of the gunk and Esuna that debuff if they're hit with it, they proceed to do it 4 more times. Four. More. Times. The PLD learned a bit and ran behind the book after the third attempt, but they still died because of not realizing he could use Clemency to save the party. At this point the MCH threw up a vote abandon and it passed.

    Someone please make the beatings stop. I don't think my brain can take much more of this.
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    Last edited by Cincierta; 02-01-2019 at 07:37 AM. Reason: I can't spell.

  6. #18896
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    DevonEllwood's Avatar
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    Devon Ellwood
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post

    50/60 roulette: Amdapor Keep as tank.

    The party just seems slow. Things stay at low health without dying. The healer keeps regenning me between battles and the bard is pulling things ahead of me. At one point the two DPS run off ahead while I'm still waiting for the healer to come through a teleport.

    At the end, I intend to go back for chests so I wait for the party to leave, because it seems odd to be running back into the dungeon. The healer is apparently waiting for me to leave. We stand there awkwardly. They blow a kiss and 'dote'. ...um. Right then. I wave goodbye. They still aren't leaving. Maybe they want to get the chests too.

    I give up and sprint off. They follow partway along the corridor, then stop and return to the exit. They leave before I've gotten to any of the treasure.

    I don't understand what was going on.
    I don't know why I find this funny, but it's probably because I've had this happen multiple times, both in Amdapor and the Mannor. You just want the loot and no one to follow you and the other person hangs around making sure they get a player commendation from you or something, making everything awkward
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  7. #18897
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Had an Orbonne run the other night where alliance B had 2 perma-DC'd players (they'd be dead for 3/4 of a fight with DC symbols, make it late to the next boss, then die again.) I commented in alliance chat that they should probably leave and/or the group should dismiss them, since there was no way they'd survive Cid like that (yes, that leaves 6 in their group, and the spare 4 from A and C could cover them, but Cid is still a DPS check for most groups even without deaths, and there are never not deaths. Besides, the other alliances shouldn't have to cover/carry them.)

    They did not leave/were not dismissed.

    Spoiler: B did not survive Cid. Even with the entire group turned over (minus the DCers, because of course), B could not survive Cid. (Why does everybody think that running your AOE marker to the other groups is the way to handle the add phase?)

    Look, I get it. Not everybody has amazing connections, and it sucks if you can't do stuff you want to do because of it. But do not queue for content if you're having connection issues, and if once you enter you find that you're having constant connection issues to the point that you're not actually alive/in game for any of the run, leave. Ask to be vote kicked. Unless you're in a PF group set up for that purpose, don't expect a carry. That's just rude as hell.
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    Last edited by InkstainedGwyn; 02-01-2019 at 07:56 AM.

  8. #18898
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    Aeducan's Avatar
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    Kaho Saionji
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I like the Ghimlyt Dark gears; been farming it for glams since last week. Last night, I got a party of WAR, WHM, RDM, and me as BLM. WAR said right off the bat that they're farming glams too and specifically looking for tank gloves and healer shoes. WHM nods to their request, RDM said they want DRG stuffs, and I said "sure" to both of their requests, as I was looking for other stuffs.

    First boss dropped healer shoes and WAR again asked the party to have it. Both WHM and I passed, but RDM ended up taking the shoes for some reason. We all went quiet afterwards, but this RDM now has my attention for being unsportsmanlike and I don't like this kind of person. Yet I said nothing because it was their right to roll after all. Second boss dropped DRG helmet and RDM immediately said to the party to let them have it. Honestly I rolled just out of spite (I don't even have a DRG), but decided to pass afterwards because it was the right thing to do.

    At the final boss, I got into DPS tunnel vision and ended up being meme BLM (not moving out of leyline in order to avoid damage). Unfortunately WHM didn't heal me fast enough so I died, but this death was 100% my fault for not doing proper mechanics. Of course, RDM just had to say things like "BLACK mages are only 13% of the population but commits 73% of all crimes. Why is that?". Not only this remark rubbed me off the wrong way for a reason I'd rather not talk about on the forum, but they made up stats out of thin air just to... I dunno what they were trying to achieve. Shame me? I already knew I screwed up so it was just a white noise to me. Funny thing is, they were busy typing and ended up dying themselves. I simply replied to their remark: "too busy typing I guess". They went on again but I ignored it as the fight was over and healer coat dropped so WAR and WHM were having their own conversation.

    I've done more than 3k runs in this game and the majority of them were uneventful, but this one stood out for leaving a bad taste in my mouth. At least now my caster and MCH glams are complete, I especially like the latter
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    Last edited by Aeducan; 02-01-2019 at 11:29 AM.

  9. #18899
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I have beaten the game. I have found the worst valentine's quest partner in the duty finder. Couldn't complete the quest because despite having hit every other button they left me in the maze because they wouldnt hit their button.

    Hello 30 minute penalty for a seasonal quest.
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  10. #18900
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    Protect is level 16 if the healer isn't 16 when unsync you can wait all you want for protect it won't happen.
    Should have mentioned - that was my first thought when we had an awkward delay at the start and I realised the tank was waiting for Protect. So I looked at the healer's class and they were a white mage, so definitely not just underleveled!

    And in any case does not excuse the complete failure to heal the tank.


    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    I don't know why I find this funny, but it's probably because I've had this happen multiple times, both in Amdapor and the Mannor. You just want the loot and no one to follow you and the other person hangs around making sure they get a player commendation from you or something, making everything awkward
    Oh, that would probably explain it!

    Joke's on them; I'd already given my commendation to the first-timer DPS who'd said thankyou at the end.
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