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  1. #18831
    Player
    purgatori's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Purgatori Sakkara
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Duty finder has been killing me with the wait times for orbonne monastery (as a tank) since release. Queueing as a DPS gets you in right away but if you're trying to get tank gear then good luck. You'll be sitting around for 30+ minutes and only then get offered a party in progress, not even a fresh party.
    Since moving to the JP datacentre I haven't been able to get Orbonne to pop at all, regardless of whether I'm queueing with tank or DPS. I've pretty much given up on clearing this content as a result.
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  2. #18832
    Player
    Mansion's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Mansion Viscera
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Did an expert roulette yesterday, and after the second boss from Ghimlyt, the tank says "Lunch time bye" and leaves.
    So... ok.

    Anyway, I learnt you can do the last corridor to the last boss without a tank.
    (6)

  3. #18833
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    Palladiamors's Avatar
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    Character
    Ishimar Furial
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 93
    Just had the most mediocre scholar in a group. No one died but spent a lot of time low on health. His DPS was also very low and he rolled need on EVERY healing piece that dropped and didn't need any of them. It was just a combination of factors that kinda annoyed me.
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  4. #18834
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    MetalSnakeXI1's Avatar
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    Character
    Saleemius Arishiani
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Yesterday on Stone Vigil I had a..........weird run to put it nicely

    The Tank was new so I didn't mind them doing small pulls.

    But the WHM healer wasn't new to the place and they just stood there.....doing nothing and won't DPS with me and the DRG and only act if they see the tank's HP dip below half.

    I politely ask them to DPS every once in a while and they snarkingly reply with "And you shouldn't get hit by AOEs.....I can't DPS and heal at the same time"

    For the record,the only aoe I got hit by during that entire run was on the first boss since I was RDM and i moved a second late after my cast finished and that was entirely my fault I admit,but u can't take this one instance and apply it for the entire run especially when you weren't DPSing before or after that instance.

    I'm not a healer main myself so I won't claim that I know the ins and outs of WHM,AST or SCH,but at the same time DPSing mobs do help ease the tank's burden cuz thats one enemy you're helping us DPS faster which means less HP to be mowed out of the tank which also means u can save your mana AND Benediction CDs for more crucial parts of a run than an easy mobs pull.
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    Last edited by MetalSnakeXI1; 01-27-2019 at 09:50 PM.

  5. #18835
    Player
    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Feb 2016
    Location
    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
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    7,339
    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    3-manning Thordan Ex with my friends so my alt could get a birb. Gotta say, it’s kind of fun, even though her level 60 AST butt is getting hardcore carried. X3. Brings back memories of farming him in HW.
    (3)
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

  6. #18836
    Player
    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Character
    Mikeru Takeuchi
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    Yesterday on Stone Vigil I had a..........weird run to put it nicely

    The Tank was new so I didn't mind them doing small pulls.

    But the WHM healer wasn't new to the place and they just stood there.....doing nothing and won't DPS with me and the DRG and only act if they see the tank's HP dip below half.

    I politely ask them to DPS every once in a while and they snarkingly reply with "And you shouldn't get hit by AOEs.....I can't DPS and heal at the same time"

    For the record,the only aoe I got hit by during that entire run was on the first boss since I was RDM and i moved a second late after my cast finished and that was entirely my fault I admit,but u can't take this one instance and apply it for the entire run especially when you weren't DPSing before or after that instance.

    I'm not a healer main myself so I won't claim that I know the ins and outs of WHM,AST or SCH,but at the same time DPSing mobs do help ease the tank's burden cuz thats one enemy you're helping us DPS faster which means less HP to be mowed out of the tank which also means u can save your mana AND Benediction CDs for more crucial parts of a run than an easy mobs pull.
    If you're referring to the level 41 dungeon, the healer doesn't have Benediction as it is a level 50 ability (Stone Vigil is synced up to level 43).

    That being said, I agree with the gist of your post. I've seen too many healers who don't dps when it's safe to do so. Because I'm grouped with so many terrible and/or mediocre healers lately, I've been running roulettes as healer more often than I usually do.
    (4)
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    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

  7. #18837
    Player
    Khorchi's Avatar
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    Character
    The Scrub
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    This isn't a duty finder, this is more just a vent.

    My mentor cannot catch a break.
    He needs the final doggo in order to complete the set. But he's given up on getting it before 5.0.

    I cannot understand why people cannot do the mechanics for Wreath of Snakes (aka Snek Boi) properly. To me, as someone who has only been in the game for about 8 months, Snek Boi is the 2nd easiest Extreme fight of the current top content (behind Susano).
    After 72 clears of danger noodle he has been in farm party after farm party after farm party and gotten nowhere.
    He's started getting such bad luck that he's started keeping a tally.
    He's wiped to 1% enrage... 38 times.
    Wiped to the opening set of explodey dirt mounds... 16 times.
    Wiped to the ultimate... 18 times.
    Wiped to the first split stack.... 24 times. The second... 28 times.
    Either set of meteors... 27 times.
    Even when he does clear, roll on the doggo only to get beaten by someone else (ie come 2nd when roll for the doggo) ... 9 times.
    And finally, number of parties where it's been set to lootmaster. He's the next person in line to get the doggo if it drops and then party disbands... 5 times.

    After being in some of these groups with me as a WHM, I've almost come to the conclusion that if I, as a healer, have to LB3, the run is lost.
    We've been in parties where the SAM we were with was averaging almost 9.0k DPS and my mentor on MNK having almost 7.0k DPS and even they can't drag these people through it.

    My mentor used to really like the fight of Snek Boi, lately though he has become so burned out by parties who cannot finish the fight that he's almost completely given up on the community. All he wants is his 99 runs now. He doesn't care if he doesn't get the doggo at this stage. He's just going to get all the weapons and stop (I think he only has the WHM staff and DRG weapon to go).
    And I can't say that I blame him.

    The number of times that I've seen people in Snek Boi with Alpha Savage gear from head to toe and iLvl 40X and they end up tanking the floor to the same mechanic... EVERY... SINGLE... TIME.
    (2)

  8. #18838
    Player
    Aramina's Avatar
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    Character
    Ahnohla Mujuuk
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallistra View Post
    Selli
    Off topic but I saw Selli looking for a CL group in Anemos last night. I was laughing because she kept saying 18+ which I am positive meant the level but my joking side kept thinking "what adult things are they planning in that group?!"
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  9. #18839
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    Palladiamors's Avatar
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    Character
    Ishimar Furial
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 93
    Had a run in Sirensong Sea last night with a monk who just auto-attacked things and stood in every AoE. Our healer finally got a little irritated and goes "Man you're just getting hit by everything!" at which point he just guns it for a circle and dies. We didn't noticeably kill the boss any slower afterwards.
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  10. #18840
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    MetalSnakeXI1's Avatar
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    Character
    Saleemius Arishiani
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    If you're referring to the level 41 dungeon, the healer doesn't have Benediction as it is a level 50 ability (Stone Vigil is synced up to level 43).

    That being said, I agree with the gist of your post. I've seen too many healers who don't dps when it's safe to do so. Because I'm grouped with so many terrible and/or mediocre healers lately, I've been running roulettes as healer more often than I usually do.
    Like I said I don't main healing classes so my knowledge isn't good on it

    I'd love to go and be a healer but my problem is,from my first healing experience as AST at Brayflox Longstop,I panic really really badly when I see the tank at low health/dead

    Should I practice healing more or put it away ?The thing is,and my example isn't from an mmo,but I used to main healers in Overwatch which to be fair is completely different from here especially when scrolling down on a controller on Ps4 is nowhere near as convenient as clicking with a mouse and tapping on keyboard hotbars

    The reason I decided to level up RDM is so at least I can pick up some of the slack a mediocre healer might cause and help other good healers stay focused while I verraise and verrcure if necessary


    Quote Originally Posted by Khorchi View Post
    This isn't a duty finder, this is more just a vent.

    My mentor cannot catch a break.
    He needs the final doggo in order to complete the set. But he's given up on getting it before 5.0.

    I cannot understand why people cannot do the mechanics for Wreath of Snakes (aka Snek Boi) properly. To me, as someone who has only been in the game for about 8 months, Snek Boi is the 2nd easiest Extreme fight of the current top content (behind Susano).
    After 72 clears of danger noodle he has been in farm party after farm party after farm party and gotten nowhere.
    He's started getting such bad luck that he's started keeping a tally.
    He's wiped to 1% enrage... 38 times.
    Wiped to the opening set of explodey dirt mounds... 16 times.
    Wiped to the ultimate... 18 times.
    Wiped to the first split stack.... 24 times. The second... 28 times.
    Either set of meteors... 27 times.
    Even when he does clear, roll on the doggo only to get beaten by someone else (ie come 2nd when roll for the doggo) ... 9 times.
    And finally, number of parties where it's been set to lootmaster. He's the next person in line to get the doggo if it drops and then party disbands... 5 times.

    After being in some of these groups with me as a WHM, I've almost come to the conclusion that if I, as a healer, have to LB3, the run is lost.
    We've been in parties where the SAM we were with was averaging almost 9.0k DPS and my mentor on MNK having almost 7.0k DPS and even they can't drag these people through it.

    My mentor used to really like the fight of Snek Boi, lately though he has become so burned out by parties who cannot finish the fight that he's almost completely given up on the community. All he wants is his 99 runs now. He doesn't care if he doesn't get the doggo at this stage. He's just going to get all the weapons and stop (I think he only has the WHM staff and DRG weapon to go).
    And I can't say that I blame him.

    The number of times that I've seen people in Snek Boi with Alpha Savage gear from head to toe and iLvl 40X and they end up tanking the floor to the same mechanic... EVERY... SINGLE... TIME.
    Seiryu EX is quite easy but for whatever reason most tanks I met always.....ALWAYS wipe at Cursekeeper on the second phase

    Nowadays when I hear Snake boi scream "BIG NOT FOR MERCY" I ready myself for a potential wipe xD
    (2)
    Last edited by MetalSnakeXI1; 01-28-2019 at 12:32 PM.

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