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  1. #18821
    Player
    ChaseNetwork's Avatar
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    Garlemald
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    Character
    Rein Tenebres
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Expert as tank. This healer kept using rescue on me.
    They were pulling me away from mobs and ground effects placed by me and other party members.
    Kept rescuing me during bosses for some reason too, which made bosses face the party.
    I was dodging AoEs just fine but they kept pulling me to their safe spot every time.
    Didn't complain or say anything about it. At the end I got two commendations.

    I'll admit I had fun.
    I find Rescue can be nice when it's pre-arranged how you would use it. Eg, arranging with a melee DPS to allow them maybe 1 or 2 extra hits before Rescuing them to the safe spot away from the encounter for mechanics. I especially enjoy it when I play as Dragoon, since I like the fantasy of being able to constantly weave in and out of combat over long distances a couple times over. I hope we get more Dive Ready triggers and disengages in 5.0.
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    Greetings and salutations, adventurers.

  2. #18822
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    NanaWiloh's Avatar
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    Nana Wiloh
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Did Labyrinth of the ancients last night with a Gung ho tank. When I say Gung ho this tank was yelling NA world first in chat lol Running and pulling before everyone was present at every boss. When we got to the Allag bomb being group b we all gathered under the bomb and waited for the pull. Except our beloved Gung ho world first tank. He ran and pulled the demon with group A, our Monk tanked our demon while our GUNG HO TANK tried to tank group A's demon and died. He then proceed to say "WOW NO HEALS" in chat after three fellow party members had just pointed out to him that he was on the wrong mob. He got rezzed ran to us as the demons were dying, he grabbed the demon and just moments before they all die he suggests in chat pulling them all togather *facepalm* the demons die we kill the bomb and he calls the entire raid a bunch of PUSSIES!!

    I honestly thought this guy has to be trolling..well he had the icon of a returning player. Checked his profile his highest lvl class was 55, I had no doubt at that point that he was not trolling and just clueless beyond understanding. Lmao
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 01-26-2019 at 08:29 PM.

  3. #18823
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffWellington View Post
    What really makes this lame is, people doing this usually aren't newbies. The MSQ is set up really nicely to ensure new players leveling their first job have adequate gear all the way through. These horribly undergeared players are leveling a second or third-through-fifteenth job, and really should know better.
    While they probably should know better, there's a major flaw in the "recommended gear" button. Click it, accept the suggested equipment and it will tell you that you are now wearing the recommended gear for your class... except of course it isn't actually recommended, it's just the "best" of what you have on hand in your armoury chest. (Or what the program incorrectly perceives to be the best, especially for tanks.)

    It doesn't give any sort of warning that your "best" gear might still actually be terrible.
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  4. #18824
    Player
    Aosha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    So, I went into Snowcloak as a Warrior.
    Got a group consisting of a first-timer Scholar, and two rather rude DPS.

    Red Mage just runs off right away and pulls the first enemies. I let him have the one he Fleche'd, and grab the rest myself.
    Then after I pull the double set of wolves he starts cussing (albeit with shortened words) for "going too far and interrupting his casts". Sure, I went a bit further than necessary (I always remember the bear already being pullable as well at that point, but remembered it's not after a few steps), but the distance was about an Overpower's reach. I doubt that's really worth getting so worked up over. + adjusting his positioning definitely would have taken less time than typing in chat. I said I'd remembered that part of the layout wrong (as was the case, in regards to mob spawns), and Samurai piped up with "irrelevant".
    They then start pestering me over a typo in my chat messages...
    On boss one, both DPS completely ignored the bombs, RDM saying "he forgot the layout for that part", probably just to annoy me. "We're just joking" is what they say, but it really doesn't feel like that...
    On the way to boss 2 we wiped once (SCH got distracted by something, and I didn't notice them falling behind, it happens). RDM failed to take the shortcut running back.
    On boss 2 I take a moment to explain the mechanics to the Scholar, and things go unusually well, although the big adds die weirdly slow. This is where I notice the Samurai not having Shifu or Jinpu up most of the time, and the only slashing resistance debuff on the boss is from me. No idea what he was doing, he was still definitely using weaponskills.
    On boss 3, I give the Scholar a rundown of the mechanics. I initiate a countdown and... Red Mage throws in a Fleche 2 seconds in. /sigh here we go. RDM and SAM both eat at least one hit a piece from every round of Icicles that drops, and RDM decides that standing next to the tank on a boss that cleaves is a good idea. On of them bites it during the first Lunar Cry, think it was the RDM. New SCH gets hit by the second one (which hey, if you're still not used to the dungeon can easily get you by surprise), but survives, since they were not close enough to an exploding icicle to die to it.
    After the boss is done, the Samurai starts doing the "throw stuff at" emote at me...

    I probably would have bailed from that dungeon halfway through, but didn't want to leave the SCH with these two... Thankfully they directed their jerkassery at me, only causing minor annoyance, and not at the sprout Scholar.
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  5. #18825
    Player
    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    I had a funny dungeon yesterday with machinist, DRG, WHM and me as PLD on Tamtara hard.
    The first pull of 3 groups was a disaster and almost end up with wipe, not because the healer was bad, he was lvl 70 with good eq thats why i decided to run for 3 groups pull, i was sure he was good enough to make it with me, which i cannot say at all the same about those 2 dps i had. Killing it took all my CD's, WHM oom and almost wiped, i was curious what was going on so i decided to turn on the parser, and what i have found?
    A Dragoon doing same dps as WHM, Machnist dealing sometimes half or 75% of what i was doing ON PLD IN TANK STANCE.
    Idk were they trolling or what, so whatever i we continue with this run, havent speak a word about it, just ignored.
    We wiped 1 time at first boss, and it didnt helped that WHM gave a correct advices about the two marks mechanic, what happened you may ask? Those 2 guys was running around it with marks on them, and then came close to us, there were like 10 ads, AOE came and the ads blown up killing us all. The second try we only won because i was running like a chicken from them away with a boss, idk how long it took to kill it.
    The other stuff went really slow and i was on the edge of my patience, if it would not be for me lvling up my PLD i would just plug out the PC from the socket and go jogging, i dont even want to talk about what dps were doing, machinist was using one skill and none of his combos, and the lancer was buffing himself while staying on the side occasionally doing dmg as he pleased it looked like he played without a monitor screen or something.
    Then the last boss came, whm again explained the mechanics, just to kill all adds before they get to the centre. Then the ads phase come, I wasnt paying attention to the all area i assumed they killed them, i killed the adds in about 1/3 of the area, and then boom we wiped and had to do it again. It turned out the DRG was casting emotes on the side instead of doing anything, and the machinist was only dpsing the boss. We finished only because me and WHM were killing ads...
    The summary was
    about 146k damage done by me, 95% active time.
    105k by machinist with 80%
    DRG 74k with 60% and WHM 60k with the same 60% active dps time.
    It took us about 30 minutes to finish, cant really tell exact time.
    What a run...
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 01-27-2019 at 11:18 AM.

  6. #18826
    Player
    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Character
    Aster Enelysion
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I had a funny dungeon yesterday with machinist, lancer, WHM and me as PLD on Tamtara hard.
    The first pull of 3 groups was a disaster and almost end up with wipe, not because the healer was bad, he was lvl 70 with good eq thats why i decided to run for 3 groups pull, i was sure he was good enough to make it with me, which i cannot say at all the same about those 2 dps i had. Killing it took all my CD's, WHM oom and almost wiped, i was curious what was going on so i decided to turn on the parser, and what i have found?
    A lancer doign same dps as WHM, Machnist dealing sometimes half or 75% of what i was doing ON PLD IN TANK STANCE.
    Idk were they trolling or what, so whatever i we continue with this run, havent speak a word about it, just ignored.
    We wiped 1 time at first boss, and it didnt helped that WHM gave a correct advices about the two marks mechanic, what happened you may ask? Those 2 guys was running around it with marks on them, and then came close to us, there were like 10 ads, AOE came and the ads blown up killing us all. The second try we only won because i was running like a chicken from them away with a boss, idk how long it took to kill it.
    The other stuff went really slow and i was on the edge of my patience, if it would not be for me lvling up my PLD i would just plug out the PC from the socket and go jogging, i dont even want to talk about what dps were doing, machinist was using one skill and none of his combos, and the lancer was buffing himself while staying on the side occasionally doing dmg as he pleased it looked like he played without a monitor screen or something.
    Then the last boss came, whm again explained the mechanics, just to kill all adds before they get to the centre. Then the ads phase come, I wasnt paying attention to the all area i assumed they killed them, i killed the adds in about 1/3 of the area, and then boom we wiped and had to do it again. It turned out the lancer was casting emotes on the side instead of doing anything, and the machinist was only dpsing the boss. We finished only because me and WHM were killing ads...
    The summary was
    about 146k damage done by me, 95% active time.
    105k by machinist with 80%
    Lancer 74k with 60% and WHM 60k with the same 60% active dps time.
    It took us about 30 minutes to finish, cant really tell exact time.
    What a run...
    Wait, Lancer instead of Dragoon? Well RIP on a third or more of their abilities at lv50, as well as the stats provided by the Drg soulstone. <_<
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  7. #18827
    Player
    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    Wait, Lancer instead of Dragoon? Well RIP on a third or more of their abilities at lv50, as well as the stats provided by the Drg soulstone. <_<
    My apology, i mixed up the terms.
    Yes he was a dragoon, that spiky icon pointed down it is dragoon. :P
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  8. #18828
    Player
    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    My apology, i mixed up the terms.
    Yes he was a dragoon, that spiky icon pointed down it is dragoon. :P
    xD . . . Well OK then. In that case I can understand if their dps was bad for groups since lv50 Dragoons are currently shit at that level for aoe damage--abilities were gutted during StB, afterall--but there would have been no excuse during boss pulls. None whatsoever.
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  9. #18829
    Player
    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    xD . . . Well OK then. In that case I can understand if their dps was bad for groups since lv50 Dragoons are currently shit at that level for aoe damage--abilities were gutted during StB, afterall--but there would have been no excuse during boss pulls. None whatsoever.
    Idk, i always thought PLD is worst aoe class for trash pulls and overal dps in dungeons, and it was always the case. How low can someone get to be surpassed by a PLD in a tank stance? gg anyway, next time im going to leave the duty.
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  10. #18830
    Player
    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Idk, i always thought PLD is worst aoe class for trash pulls and overal dps in dungeons, and it was always the case. How low can someone get to be surpassed by a PLD in a tank stance? gg anyway, next time im going to leave the duty.
    PLD used to be bad for aoe, even using Circle of Scorn as much as possible. Then Total Eclipse was added in StB. Putting the two together actually makes PLD better at lv50 aoe than DRG at the same level.
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