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  1. #18651
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    Keddera_StormMoon's Avatar
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    Tifka Stormmoon
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BanZambi View Post
    Not gonna lie this whole thread makes me super worried as a returning player who's never made it to max level that I'm going to be micromanaged every time I try to cast a spell or learn the game lol.
    Most people won't say anything actually. They'll just put up with it rather than start a fight.

    Hell, I used to spam Fire 3 all the time but nobody bothered to tell me I was doing it wrong. I had to find out reading here that it was incorrect. (I've since corrected that).

    Yes, you're going to get that guy that says "Hey healer, DPS more" or "screw you, I'm going to zoom tank this - you're bad if you can't keep up". But they are few and far between.
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  2. #18652
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    Berethos's Avatar
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Moments in 24 man raids that make me cry, though I'll be keeping it vague to avoid spoilers for these newest fights.

    "So if you get this aoe marker, go here or here."

    "Ok." Players proceed to go to places that are neither when marked.

    What really ground my gears on this last run was that one of the individuals who wasn't taking said AOE to the right place was referencing another fight that uses a very similar mechanic, so they clearly knew how it was supposed to work.
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  3. #18653
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Moments in 24 man raids that make me cry, though I'll be keeping it vague to avoid spoilers for these newest fights.

    "So if you get this aoe marker, go here or here."

    "Ok." Players proceed to go to places that are neither when marked.

    What really ground my gears on this last run was that one of the individuals who wasn't taking said AOE to the right place was referencing another fight that uses a very similar mechanic, so they clearly knew how it was supposed to work.
    Yeah its being really toxic all day as people trying to rush a clear.There's a lot of players just focusing on their own dps and wiping team mates in the process expectign them to do any mechanic for them instead of trying to figure it out or ask for help explaining.
    Ive been trying to help explain some mechanics to players to help them and was greeted by complete arrogance instead.I wasnt been rude when trying to explain in anyway.I was trying to help and then get accused of running away from a team who ran away from me when i had the usual stack for damage marker.(This wasnt one of the mechanics i was mentioning at the time btw)
    Then there is also a lot of alliances throwing the blame game at each other over who faield what mechanic..Nobody is expecting people to know the mechanics first day so i dont get why players are so desperatly trying to cover up making mistakes and throw the blame on other people.It's not like anybody should be angry about wiping on new fights.If anything its expected.
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  4. #18654
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I have not seen the first half of the new raid. I've only ran in twice, but both times dropped me at the third boss.

    Boss three mechanic talk
    There's a tether mechanic and as a tank, I ran up and grabbed it. That was a bad. Tanks aren't suppose to grab that. Even though in Omega 1 and 11, that's what we do. I took 68k damage. This one DPS ran to me and I was like, I can't let me have this. Popped Hallowed and ran away. That lasts just a bit longer than hollowed and followed by a buster. I popped. While I was on the ground they explained it. They have to pass it and tanks don't touch.

    And of course there's those people who don't grasp Back and left. Luckily bleeding isn't a wipe, but that's a lot of unneeded stress on the healers.


    We got to the fourth boss with very little time. And wiped during the transition. With like ten minutes left, we went in guns a blazing and cleared it. Second phase was completely blind for over half the people. It was awesome.

    Second round wasn't too bad. Again, dropped me at the third boss, but I was more aware of what I'm doing. Final boss went smoothish. We died to meteors. Learned that if you wipe during the third phase, you start there. So that's nice. And at some point the MT lost aggro and it was running around. So I grabbed it and tanked it. Got Agrias' coat for my troubles. I called it too. I knew I was either going to get it in the first few runs or I'd be running it all week. I got lucky.
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  5. #18655
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I got super lucky

    Got thrown into second boss. Almost everyone in raid new, figuring out as we go.

    We failed all the boss fights at least once but we cleared them on second attempt. On second attempts, people just explain what they notice and whatnot.

    Overall, an amazing fight and had a good time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  6. #18656
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Been in 3 raids now, all three have timed out due to wipes.

    Surprised they lasted that long, but if people are willing to continue, I think they should be allowed to.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  7. #18657
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BanZambi View Post
    Not gonna lie this whole thread makes me super worried as a returning player who's never made it to max level that I'm going to be micromanaged every time I try to cast a spell or learn the game lol.
    Heres another way to look at it. This thread is 1900 pages(and obviously showing no signs of stopping) of people indirectly giving you examples of what not to do interspersed with people giving each other advice and feedback. You also get a portion of people giving examples of really good runs and experiences they had that they wanted to share.
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  8. #18658
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Yeah its being really toxic all day as people trying to rush a clear.There's a lot of players just focusing on their own dps and wiping team mates in the process expectign them to do any mechanic for them instead of trying to figure it out or ask for help explaining.
    Ive been trying to help explain some mechanics to players to help them and was greeted by complete arrogance instead.I wasnt been rude when trying to explain in anyway.I was trying to help and then get accused of running away from a team who ran away from me when i had the usual stack for damage marker.(This wasnt one of the mechanics i was mentioning at the time btw)
    Then there is also a lot of alliances throwing the blame game at each other over who faield what mechanic..Nobody is expecting people to know the mechanics first day so i dont get why players are so desperatly trying to cover up making mistakes and throw the blame on other people.It's not like anybody should be angry about wiping on new fights.If anything its expected.
    I just got out of my first Orbonne run. Didn't clear, but everyone was able to learn and push through to the 3rd boss. We made some forward progress, but after a few attempts it began going in the opposite direction. With 30 minutes left and with no end in sight I decided to leave and pick it up again tomorrow. Hopefully more people will learn some mechanics by then. Everyone was pretty nice though in my run and there was a couple people explaining mechanics along the way as needed. So...could have been better, could have been worse. I was probably lucky on day 1. Will try again tomorrow.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-09-2019 at 03:19 PM.
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  9. #18659
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    CodingSession's Avatar
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    Yugiri's Girlfriend
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Shout out to everyone in the Orbonne raid earlier today. We managed to clear the raid with 4 minutes remaining. That was the closest I've got to breaking the time limit of any raid.

    First boss didn't give us too much trouble, we beat it with only 2 or 3 wipes. Things got interesting in the second boss, as we couldn't figure out the sword and shield mechanics for a long time. We probably spent 20-30 minutes there.
    The third boss was where everything went to hell. Get near-get away confusion, bleeding bubbles overlap, DPS check failure during the add phase, and overall chaos cost us WAY too much time against this boss.
    We arrived at the last boss with only 20~ minutes remaining. I honestly didn't think we can beat it within the time limit, so I went in only to learn the mechanics for next time. What a (pleasant) surprise, the last boss is actually easier than the third boss. After 3 wipes, we basically figured out all of its mechanics and proceed to kick its ass.

    24-man raid blind run is truly one of the most fun things in this game.
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    Last edited by CodingSession; 01-09-2019 at 04:10 PM.

  10. #18660
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    Is something wrong with me? I deleted my character out of rage cause I fucked up her look. I feel like that's not normal but I'm pissed I fucked it up. Oh well. Starting over.
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    Last edited by Insertcoins; 01-09-2019 at 05:09 PM.

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