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  1. #1
    Player
    MarniDawg's Avatar
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    Seefa Corgine
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    You ever have those runs where four random people get together and just meld together perfectly? I had one today in the burn and damn did it feel good.

    Tank asks healer if big pulls are okay, then the healer says sure. I say "woot!" Because as a summoner big pulls is my bread and butter. Red mage scatters away, I aoe like the mad summoner I am and the white mage smashes that holy button and the mobs and bosses just melt. Tank comments on how nice it is to have good dps and heals and we all agree.

    We get to the mist dragon and melt the adds, the dragon I getting low and casts deep fog and flies off. Everyone dodges the first round except one. No big deal. Round two comes along and I watch in horror as all 3 of my team gets hit. I quickly break out tank, healer, dps in that order, but the healer and dps die to the explosion right after.

    I think to myself "Not like this!" And swiftcast raise the healer and hardcast raise the dps. Manashift the healer who tetras me (at this point I was within an inch of my life) and we murder the crap out of the dragon!

    Such a fun run! I wish they all went this well <3
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    AxHell's Avatar
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    Axhell Anchorvi
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 100
    So O10N. I went MT on it with my war. 2 DPS died but no biggie, fight goes smoothly. Suddenly the Healer LB 3 comes out and of course everyone else is like : "BUT WHY ?"

    Then the two healers die and with no SMN or RDM in the party, it leads to a wipe.

    Abandon vote appears and apparently there was enough vote to abandon the duty. Maybe others didn't want to be paired with a healer who wastes a LB 3 for 2 dead people but still...
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    So O10N. I went MT on it with my war. 2 DPS died but no biggie, fight goes smoothly. Suddenly the Healer LB 3 comes out and of course everyone else is like : "BUT WHY ?"

    Then the two healers die and with no SMN or RDM in the party, it leads to a wipe.

    Abandon vote appears and apparently there was enough vote to abandon the duty. Maybe others didn't want to be paired with a healer who wastes a LB 3 for 2 dead people but still...
    Either i was with you in that party or i just had the same healers on my run....

    ---

    On another note, sry for the guys ending up in mhach with me this week, i wasnt afk i just was rly rly tired and almost falling asleep, im sry Q_Q

    ...still kicking me was rude, i carried worse ppl
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    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Autumn Stardust
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    Malboro
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    ...still kicking me was rude, i carried worse ppl
    Falling asleep and barely contributing isn’t rude? And so? Carrying bad people doesn’t earn you a freebie.
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I had a Red Mage in O8 last night who seemed new to the fight. That's fine. What was bad was that when they failed mechanics, they'd lose about half of their health, which is nuts because I didn't remember Kefka hitting THAT hard.

    So I check their gear and they had a 380 chest piece. Then I look at the rest of their gear, which was 320 - 350.

    And then there was the 282 weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    Then we won. It was epic. I got one of the comms, but the music--the reason I even went in--still did not drop.
    Omega Raid in a nutshell. Still looking for that Exdeath music.
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    Last edited by Berteaux_Braumegain; 10-26-2018 at 05:06 AM.

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    TalithaSolarien's Avatar
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I had a Red Mage in O8 last night who seemed new to the fight. That's fine. What was bad was that when they failed mechanics, they'd lose about half of their health, which is nuts because I didn't remember Kefka hitting THAT hard.

    So I check their gear and they had a 380 chest piece. Then I look at the rest of their gear, which was 320 - 350.

    And then there was the 282 weapon...



    Omega Raid in a nutshell. Still looking for that Exdeath music.
    That's perfectly valid gear for a player farming O8 for the Mendacity tomestone weapon. Stormblood is rather stingy with endgame weapon drops, but maybe he should have equipped his class gear weapon (which is 290 is I remember correctly).
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    ChaoticCrimson's Avatar
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    Crimson Law
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    That's perfectly valid gear for a player farming O8 for the Mendacity tomestone weapon. Stormblood is rather stingy with endgame weapon drops, but maybe he should have equipped his class gear weapon (which is 290 is I remember correctly).
    Even without crystalloids for tome weapon trades, you have a couple options of getting relatively decent weapons for Sigmascape normal. There's always Anemos and crafted weapons, even if they may not be the the most desirable methods. Barring that, the i330 weapons can be bought with hunt seals as well as using Poetics for the Rowena tokens at Idyllshire, which would simply require clearing O4N four times for the Crystalloids needed. Then it's just a matter of running Rabanastre for a coin to get the weapon upgrade item for i340. Again, tedious but certainly doable. There's little excuse to be running Sigma normal with a weapon that low aside from just trying to rush through at the expense of other players.
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  8. #8
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    That's perfectly valid gear for a player farming O8 for the Mendacity tomestone weapon. Stormblood is rather stingy with endgame weapon drops, but maybe he should have equipped his class gear weapon (which is 290 is I remember correctly).
    You can get a 330 weapon for doing a single B rank and 3 mob marks from your 3 star Clan Hunt bill.
    (1)

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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Character
    Halo Kitty
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Got booted out of a dungeon for the second time since starting this game. Dropped into Cutter's Cry with an FC friend to help them level and get a paladin and a machinist as our teammates. I'm on white mage, FC friend is on summoner. Out of the gate I feel something's weird. The first 2 rooms took forever to clear and I was basically spamming Cure/Cure 2 on the tank nonstop, they were losing health so quickly. Heading to the first boss, the tank decides to pull big and I'm at this point just spamming Cure 2 and nearly OOMing. All of a sudden, the MCH just up and dies and then immediately hits the Return. Almost at the same time, the tank eats dirt but I Swiftcast+Raise them up and by the time they had gotten to their feet, my SMN friend had downed the rest of the trash. That shouldn't have happened. So I take a look at the tank's gear:

    Lvl 28 weapon, lvl 30 headpiece, lvl 34 chest piece and hands, lvl 25 waist, lvl 35 pants (which covered boots), lvl 31 shield, lvl 20 earrings, lvl 35 necklace, and no rings.

    The conversation followed as such:

    Me: Tank.. uh.. your gear
    Me: you have no boots (note: before I noticed that the leg pieces cover boots) and no rings
    MCH: #robbed
    Tank: legs are boots too
    Me: oh yeah they are, but you're still missing rings and you have a lvl 28 weapon in a lvl 40 dungeon
    MCH: this is fine
    MCH: we goin?
    Me: I'm ooming trying to keep her alive
    MCH: this dungeon is not easy for healers
    MCH: i oomed as scholar in this
    MCH: which youd think is impossible but
    MCH: that was back in launch too
    Me: Do you have any other gear, tank? (she had a lvl WAR and lvl 70 DRK so I was hopeful)
    MCH: so you coming or we boot you? (I was standing just outside of the boss room, trying to rectify this. Based on the run to this point, there's no way we'd have cleared)
    MCH: dont wanna wait all night
    Tank: this is what i got.. you coming?
    Me: you're going to boot me?
    MCH: well are you gonna participate?
    Me: the tank is undergeared and making this very difficult but you're going to boot me? Okay then
    MCH: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    You have been dismissed from both the party and the duty

    All I did the entire run up to that point was Cure, Cure 2, Cure, Cure 2, and when I could, Regen, but the tank was dropping to 10% health in the span of one gcd. I couldn't even put Aero on anything. It took over 5 minutes to clear the first 2 rooms alone.

    Apparently, after I was kicked, the MCH told me (because, you know, attack the person who can't defend themselves) to "enjoy your dead server" and that they've "seen" me on their alt (I do not know them) and know me. After that, they apparently waited for a healer for a minute or two and then both the MCH and Tank (from different servers) left.

    Is it that unfair that people be at least somewhat geared for a dungeon? Is a 20+ lvl difference in weapon not that big of a deal and I'm making a mountain out of a molehill?
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    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakiko View Post
    Is it that unfair that people be at least somewhat geared for a dungeon? Is a 20+ lvl difference in weapon not that big of a deal and I'm making a mountain out of a molehill?
    Some back of the napkin math puts his ilvl at about 30(29 without you listing a bracelet level, so i rounded up). Cutters Cry is the level 38 dungeon. Id say thats fairly reasonable. The missing rings would account for at most 8 vitality. Not super significant(the base racial stats vary as much as 5 points up or down from each other). The change in stats from the worst level 28 weapon to the best level 38 weapon is 2 Str 3 Vit 11 Phys Dam 5 Mag Dam. That might be noticable, but you didnt mention hate jumping around - just slow kills and his health dropping like a rock. Im more likely to question if they were using an Oath, if they were using cooldowns, or if maybe some of their gear was broken. Slow kills isnt down to tank damage, thats on the MCH and SMN. My gut is always to question the guy with the itchy trigger on the /kick button, so the MCH might have been the problem there(being quick to insult and quick to kick wont win you many popularity contests). They certainly have their primary AoE tool by that level, though not having played the class i dont know if thats in a good place or not for them on their power curve.

    And of course, its always possible that the problem was either you or your friend. Not having been there, ill leave that for you to assess. So yeah, you might be over-reacting about his gear a little bit - the higher level stuff wouldnt have added that much to his stats. But clearly there was a problem(or possibly multiple problems) somewhere in that group. Its possible you dodged a bullet not having to try to drag those guys through to the finish line.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I had a Red Mage in O8 last night who seemed new to the fight. That's fine. What was bad was that when they failed mechanics, they'd lose about half of their health, which is nuts because I didn't remember Kefka hitting THAT hard.
    If they were failing consistently enough but the healers were keeping them standing then they were probly rocking a vulnerability stack in addition to eating all those attacks.
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    Last edited by Frizze; 10-27-2018 at 12:13 AM.

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