Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Maeka]

In this case, your "forgetting" was actually a good (or, at least, the normally-proper) thing as you're not supposed to have Grit on as OT (aside from adds, of course, or a couple other edge cases). That WAR, though ... I don't think I have words for that.

Well, if I'm OT, what I like to do, is have Grit on, and open with 2-3 Souleater combos and then switch to Power Slash.

If the other tank is good, I'll maintain about 75-80% threat and I'm not going to pull threat. If I see I'm getting up to 90% I'll go back to Souleaters until the other tank catches up.

That way, if the other tank dies, I'm next on the threat list and it's easy to swap and I don't have to fumble to reach for Grit if the other tank drops dead.

But yeah the other tank was just terrible in that run.

[Pyro2hell3]

so lvling blm the lately and the other day in doma a got a warrior tank who bad because of pure stupidity first thing the guy does as a masive wall to wall pull which doesn't end well and we wipe guy then kept doing it and it it would always go baldy and we wipe so we told him to cut it out still kept doing it and wiping us on trash this ended up with us getting to this on pull where starting yell blm lb! when the gauge wasn't full so you know I can't actully lb then the guy leaves we get new tank and the rest of the run goes fine
at least I have bad tank story now seriously all my stories about bad players are about healers I actully warn people about pfing healers with me in the party my luck is that bad

[Maeka]

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Hello fellow Lamian!

If you need roulettes and such and you want a decent healer, you can look me up sometime if I'm on. I wouldn't say I'm the best healer around, but I get frequent comms so I don't suck that bad lol. I can also tank too ('cept my tank is currently a bit under-geared, need to work on that sometime).

Just don't ask me to do raids or Savage, I don't do that kinda thing lol. Well I've been tempted to try Rabanastre or Lighthouse eventually maybe. Not sure on that yet. Maybe someday I'll try it.

[Mesarthim]

I did alliance roulette on MCH but this is going to be a really short story.

Syrcus Tower.

We wiped to Scylla :l (don't know if it was poor healing or the 50 lightning orbs exploding around ancient flare).

[SummonerSenah]

I did alliance roulette on MCH but this is going to be a really short story.

Syrcus Tower.

We wiped to Scylla :l (don't know if it was poor healing or the 50 lightning orbs exploding around ancient flare).

Your story reminded me of one run I did of Syrcus Tower where there was only one iceberg left for Amon's Curtain Call and it was right next to him, so half the raid was like "rip" expecting that we would all die to Curtain Call. But fortunately it was far enough away and we didn't die.

[Jijifli]

Well, if I'm OT, what I like to do, is have Grit on, and open with 2-3 Souleater combos and then switch to Power Slash.

If the other tank is good, I'll maintain about 75-80% threat and I'm not going to pull threat. If I see I'm getting up to 90% I'll go back to Souleaters until the other tank catches up.

That way, if the other tank dies, I'm next on the threat list and it's easy to swap and I don't have to fumble to reach for Grit if the other tank drops dead.

But yeah the other tank was just terrible in that run.

But as OT you really really don't need Grit. At all.

Grit lowers your damage output, and locks you out of Blood Weapon. You don't really gain anything either for having it on, because if you suddenly needed to have threat, you have Provoke for that.

[Spiroglyph]

Ridorana a few weeks back, there was this healer from another team that just would not stop dying to every single mechanic you could possibly take damage from. His/her death count at the end of that run was something like... 30, iirc, and we only wiped once, so it was a lot of deaths lmao. At some point me (RDM) and a bf (SCH) were kind of making a game of rezzing that WHM just to see how many more times it would die before the end of the run. It was amazing.

[Aster_E]

Ridorana a few weeks back, there was this healer from another team that just would not stop dying to every single mechanic you could possibly take damage from. His/her death count at the end of that run was something like... 30, iirc, and we only wiped once, so it was a lot of deaths lmao. At some point me (RDM) and a bf (SCH) were kind of making a game of rezzing that WHM just to see how many more times it would die before the end of the run. It was amazing.

Like a reverse "Pop the Weasel." In my experience, we healers usually end up doing this for Dragoons and Black Mages. For other healers? That's when you know something's wrong. xD

[HyoMinPark]

I open with two Souleater combos to make sure I don't pull threat and I look up at threat meter and I notice that the WHM Healer is pulling almost as much threat as I am! Then I look at the WAR's Stance, and he's got Defiance up. I look at my own and...... whoops. I forgot Grit. My bad. Turn Grit on, and the WHM pulls threat. I'm at 90% threat myself WITHOUT GRIT after doing two Syphon Strike->Souleater Combos. I'm like "whaaaaat!?"

He had about as much HP as me and he's losing threat to the healer WITH Tank stance on.

Well, it's obvious this guy can't tank a wet paper bag, so I Provoked Titan and switched to Power Slash, to MT it myself.

The whole fight, the WAR never got past 50% threat.

And he kept Tank stance up the whole fight.

If the WHM was that high on aggro, they were either massively overhealing, or the WAR was just autoattacking. Though, could be gear discrepancies. Either way, you shouldn’t be in your tank stance at the OT. And someone was doing something wrong in that instance—be it the WAR or the WHM. Or both.

Well, if I'm OT, what I like to do, is have Grit on, and open with 2-3 Souleater combos and then switch to Power Slash.

If the other tank is good, I'll maintain about 75-80% threat and I'm not going to pull threat. If I see I'm getting up to 90% I'll go back to Souleaters until the other tank catches up.

That way, if the other tank dies, I'm next on the threat list and it's easy to swap and I don't have to fumble to reach for Grit if the other tank drops dead.

But yeah the other tank was just terrible in that run.

If you just want to maintain second in enmity, Provoke+Shirk on cooldown (8-man content only since Shirk doesn’t work in 24-mans); that gives you second enmity automatically, and transfers 25% of your enmity to the MT, making their job even easier. You shouldn’t be in your tank stance ever as the off-tank. Because if the MT drops their tank stance for DPS stance, then you’re just ripping off of them for no reason. You should also just stick to DA+Souleater combos, because Power Slash is a DPS loss.

If the MT dies, then to gain aggro, just Provoke (if it’s up), or do a quick DA+Power Slash combo. You can even do Grit > DA+Dark Passenger for some super snap-enmity, since Dark Passenger’s enmity multiplier is ridiculous now.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Well, if I'm OT, what I like to do, is have Grit on, and open with 2-3 Souleater combos and then switch to Power Slash.

If the other tank is good, I'll maintain about 75-80% threat and I'm not going to pull threat. If I see I'm getting up to 90% I'll go back to Souleaters until the other tank catches up.

That way, if the other tank dies, I'm next on the threat list and it's easy to swap and I don't have to fumble to reach for Grit if the other tank drops dead.

But yeah the other tank was just terrible in that run.

This is why you have Provoke. A single Dark Arts + Power Slash even without Grit on will be enough to hold the boss since Provoke instantly gives you the other tank's entire aggo build plus one. All you're doing is gimping your own damage for no reason. You also never touch Power Slash as the OT unless required.