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  1. #16261
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Hey, newsflash to those dunces in Alliance C that I ran with in Ridorana just now: Ridorana can still be very hard, especially if both healers in one party are actually new to the raid and nobody is given a chance to explain things to them beforehand. You certainly don't have any room to be calling for an entire party to be kicked if a freaking Bard in the 'bad alliance' was actually the top DPS in the previous fights before everything went to hell. Especially if said people calling for the kicks happen to be composed of the top DPS classes in the game, and should not be losing to a Bard by any means in the best of circumstances.

    I explained to you asshats that I cleared O8S for a reason: If you're somehow veering even further into the douche raider sterotype than me in a freaking 24-man raid, you're doing something very wrong. But yes, keep sarcastically pulling those one-liners like 'you don't pay my sub' or the latest meme from Reddit, instead of you know, actually trying to prove your case. There's a reason I refused to talk further after the actual battle began, but ya'll just kept going and going. Oh, and I still out-damaged you guys at the last boss even though I spent more time on the floor than you did, save for the one monk who lived through the whole fight and told ya'll to shut up anyway.
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 06-06-2018 at 05:09 PM.
    "Consider this old adage: When a Bard sings alone in a desert, and no one is around to hear him... Is he truly singing?"

  2. #16262
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    The very idea of doing Ridorana on a class other than healer or RDM is just plain scary to me. I haven't been in there yet with a full alliance of people I would call competent yet (meaning I have made damn good use of Verraise, mostly in my party but also outside of it) so not having that carry privilege is not a happy thought.

    One of my more recent runs was particularly funny - when we loaded in our party was a WAR, two WHMs, two BRDs and three RDMs. I don't need to be progging Ultimate to understand this is... not ideal. The other parties were much more balanced (see: had a melee, had jobs that were not literally the bottom dps) and it was even commented on in alliance chat that we were kinda a joke comp.

    The joke is on them though. We had 3 of the top 5 dps for the vast majority of the run with one of our BRDs and I trading back and forth for first through the whole run. Also with what seemed like an almost inappropriate amount of Refresh we had all the MP we could ever need so when one of the groups (with a SAM, SMN and BLM who had poked fun at our weak party comp in the beginning of the raid) failed to kill their Construct 7.1 add in time we basically healer Lb3'd for them by raising their entire alliance in a few seconds after their dead bodies fell back into the main room.

    So yeah - don't laugh at RDMs and BRDs! We might be the lowest personal DPS when people actually care to play their classes well but if you can't outdps us on "big kid jobs" (a thing that was said) I feel like that speaks more to your own incompetence than to our suboptimal class choice.
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  3. #16263
    Player
    Corue's Avatar
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    Sari Mogari
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 84
    I saw a RDM hardcast Verraise multiple times during a Ridorana run.

    That's all. Just wanted to tell somebody about it.
    (11)

  4. #16264
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    So yeah - don't laugh at RDMs and BRDs! We might be the lowest personal DPS when people actually care to play their classes well but if you can't outdps us on "big kid jobs" (a thing that was said) I feel like that speaks more to your own incompetence than to our suboptimal class choice.
    I think you were in the one run I ran as Bard. I was mourning my lack of raise ability the whole time as I laid there on the floor because my healers repeatedly died to mechanics and the one DPS with a raise in our party was... not the most aware person I've ever played with. I try to play jobs with raises because that place still needs them even a few weeks after release. This is not a bad thing in my opinion, though I think it says something about the player base. Especially the individuals who have cleared it and still die to everything. Most runs have been pretty chill though, which is nice.

    I've actually had worse Rabanastre runs lately... like repeated wipes to the first boss complete with troll pulls, vote abandons after 20 minutes of wiping before Hashmal, and "ebin memes" flooding the chat. With no newbie bonus either. Maybe I've just been unlucky.
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    Last edited by Hestzhyen; 06-07-2018 at 10:36 AM.

  5. #16265
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    Maeka's Avatar
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    Maeka Blazewing
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    This exchange during a Sirensong Sea:

    https://imgur.com/a/tC3NgvZ

    It started with me using Displacement about 2 seconds before the first boss decides to use Amorphous Applause (that attack that covers the entire arena in front of him). Obviously there's no way I'm getting out of that before he finishes casting it and I die.

    The healer (the other person talking in the pic) was a rather newbie WHM who could barely keep the group alive. She was spamming Cure 1 (yes, Cure 1) and only casted Cure2 if she got the Freecure proc. She threw maybe two Medicas the entire dungeon, and a few times I had to save the tank (barely!) with Vercure because she just wasn't healing enough.

    And she proceeds to tell me how to do my job. Hah.

    EDIT: Btw, I was the only RDM in the group, so that "yes you" was like "uh, obviously you're talking to me, I'm more wondering why you tell me to use 'scater' right after a boss fight" type deal.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 06-07-2018 at 12:31 PM.

  6. #16266
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    Alrin's Avatar
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    Alrin Kireen
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    I saw a RDM hardcast Verraise multiple times during a Ridorana run.

    That's all. Just wanted to tell somebody about it.
    Oh gosh thats scary....

    RDM are veird. I dont even count how many RDM i saw who refused to AOE even during double and triplepulls
    (1)

  7. #16267
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Had a rather disastrous run of Cutter's Cry last night. I was tanking as paladin, and got an astrologian, bard and ninja as my team. Two of them were Lv39 when the dungeon synchs to Lv40. All of them are Japanese so I can't easily communicate.

    Things were slow up to the second boss (the sandworm), where the healer died rather quickly, and the rest of us followed. Checking people's equipment as I hiked back to the boss room, I realised that the healer was mostly equipped with crafter gear. Everyone was waiting for me at that point, so I decided to just go for the boss and hope for the best. It wasn't the best.

    Making our way back to the sandworm again, I manage to find enough auto-correct phrases to ask the healer about their gear. I'm glad (somewhat) to see them now wearing Lv31 mage gear instead of Lv35 crafting gear.

    I'm not sure if we wiped once more in the middle of that, or beat it on that next try, but in any case we absolutely scrape through - both DPSes dead halfway through, healer died with the boss at 10%, and I only just managed to kill it before it killed me.

    Onwards to the chimera. Apparently nobody knows how to handle the lightning AoE and we wipe again. (I desperately wish I'd brought warrior instead of paladin.)

    Now for an awkward interlude - as I'm making my way back to the party, I decide that I'll really need to have potions available, so I'm auto-running along while I add it to my hotbar.... all good until I take the wrong turn and blunder into a pack of enemies on the last sidepath before the boss room. The bard is close enough to come to my rescue but it's not enough. I die, and the bard runs off towards the rest of the party with all three monsters in pursuit. Oops.

    We make our way back. Again. Except for the ninja who for some reason decided to remain dead on the floor at the entrance to the boss room and has to be revived.

    Anyway, once I finally get back there, someone has set up waymarks for some reason? A in the centre, B-C-D around the edges. The healer and bard have decided that standing out at C will keep them safe from the lightning attack. It doesn't.

    The ninja is dead again. The healer lasts until about 50%. No amount of typing "A" before the lightning attack will get people to come to waypoint A. I die but the bard is still surviving.

    I warp back to start the hike again so I miss what happens next, but the bard actually manages to solo the rest of it! I've done that myself before, but was not expecting it after the rest of the run.

    Anyway, that was not a fun way to spend an hour.
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  8. 06-07-2018 03:29 PM

  9. #16268
    Player
    MetatronPrime's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aergwyb Ghotbreanawyn
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kidala View Post
    Doing Sohm Al just now I ran into a SMN who would not use Ruin, Bio, Bio II or Miasma. The only spells he ever cast were Shadowflare, Painflare, and occasionally Ruin II or Ruin III. When asked if there was any particular reason he wasn't casting these spells he listed the spells he was casting and said the others were "level locked". He meant Tri-disaster was locked due to level sync. Even after being told he could still cast his DoTs normally and being requested to multiple times, he refused to. I don't even understand..
    Did you report them? I'm sure that's an offense you can report given the criteria for such things is so vague.
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    Nemo me impune lacessit

  10. #16269
    Player ShadowHunterrX's Avatar
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    Mivau Lawantal
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    We had a lovely Red mage Au ra with crown in our 24 man raid. Who died alot and was blaming the healers for not healing him after he got up. That happen sometimes with al the chaos. But he died 4 times in a row at the first boss and didnt stop whining about it. At the same time the healers were pretty good and were keeping everyone alive with ease, even raising another groups.

    So now the second boss we are watching him. He dies pretty fast again and the healers swiftcast raise. At the same time boss is charging AOE attack, normally you wait after the attack to accept the raise. Nope, this red mage pressed the button right away, gets up and the AOE flashes in his face and with no time to heal he dies. Ofcourse starts blaming the healers again for not healing. It was pretty sad too see after a while, even we explain what he did wrong, still refused to except it. We vote him out afterwards.
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    Last edited by ShadowHunterrX; 06-07-2018 at 03:45 PM.

  11. #16270
    Player
    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    ... the same players that criticize players on a parse & insist on maximizing dps on a TANKING JOB...
    And maybe they are the ones with abysmal DPS in their dps job.
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