Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[KisaiTenshi]

Something I’m finding as red mage is that there are situations with large groups of weak enemies where it’s very hard to get that first 2.5 second cast completed on any one target before it dies - but casting Cure gives me a more reliable target so I can then instant-cast an attack spell instead of feeling useless.

But yes, generally I’ve been wondering - at what point *is* curing allies considered helpful and not “stealing the healer’s job while neglecting DPS”? We’ve got the spell so we’re expected to use it, but when?

That's the problem in your assumption. The game design gives all DPS a self-heal otherwise they would never get through solo content without the chocobo. Healers get DPS magic otherwise they would have no way to do solo content what-so-ever. In a party environment you're expected to play your role (Tank, Healer, DPS) and trust that the other players will do theirs. If you are healing yourself or other players as DPS and the healer is clearly not in trouble, you're just lowering your DPS contribution. Trust that the healer will do their job, and they will trust you do yours. Your DPS heal will be far weaker than what the healer can do themselves.

That said, in 8-player/24-player content, a red mage or summoner can raise party members faster via vercure (on themselves)+verraise on the KO player targeted which is faster than the AST/SCH/WHM trying to raise without swiftcast.

[Mhaeric]

VerCure's expected use in a party can be boiled down to two things:

1. Giving yourself the dualcast proc during boss jumps, or if you know you're not going to get a count down from your tank to time when you would normally be able to time the hardcast of Verthunder or Veraero.

2. If the proverbial stuff hits the fan, and make sure it's actually hitting it. E.g. Use it if the healer dies and you need to top off the tank while their rezz animation lock completes. Don't use it if your Scholar let's the tank drop to 60%, since their excog and/or lustrate will be wasted.

[MoroMurasaki]

When I heal... I get annoyed when Paladins and Red Mages keep healing themselves when their health gets lowered to 70%. Stop wasting your GCDs and Dual Casts... I got this...

Funny this came up because I just played through Dun Scaith on RDM and Vercured my butt off. Healers let me die 3 times to unavoidable damage and so I just kept myself standing.

I'm sure they were insulted too but when both healers are up with significantly more than half mp and not doing anything... yeah, you're gonna see some Vercure/Clemency.

Got 2 comms as well. I guess people liked me healing them.

[Mesarthim]

Hmm... this wasn't a bad run by any means but it was more of an eyebrow raiser.

Hells lid with paladin (spammed my entire chatbox with please use auto translate after the first boss) and kept forgetting to put shield oath back on until they lost aggro after each boss, a BLM and a SMN (both of which used mana shfit on me <3).

No the thing that made me raise my eyebrow the most?

The summoner used physick like 3 times in a row during the final boss after Genbu's barrier went down. I mean performance-wise the party was very solid (other than SMN eating 2 dashes in a row during second boss and dying). Now forgive me if I'm mistaken but isn't physick on summoner kind of useless by every stretch of the imagination ;p?

[AxHell]

Not a bad run or anything like that but it started strange. So Qarn hard as tank, we say hello and I wait for the healer to cast Protect.

I wait but nothing. I ask "Protect please ?" and he says "I'm waiting for you to go to the first pack."

All I could say was "What ?" and he responded "That's how it usually goes."

We didn't argue or anything, and the run was pretty smooth, but we were each other finding the "method" of the other weird.

Usually we cast protect at the start of a dungeon....right ?

[Lammas]

All I could say was "What ?" and he responded "That's how it usually goes."
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Usually we cast protect at the start of a dungeon....right ?

Um, yeah. It lasts for 30 minutes so the few seconds from the start to first pack hardly matter and all he is doing is causing you to take more damage for a while. Doing big pulls will just be harder in later dungeons if you insist on doing it like that which is just silly.

That's how it usually goes FOR HIM if he only heals and always does it like that

[Shalan]

There's something about World of Darkness which brings out the worst of players it seems.

Just did another run of the place and we had multiple trolls/intentional wipers across alliances today. Tank from B continuously pulled early (I.e. ran straight to the platforms and pulled ASAP), positioned bosses poorly (often leading to cleaves), and even went so far as to jump onto another alliance's platform, provoke their Atmos, and then jump back to their own platform before even half the alliance was on their own platform. To top the platform section off, one of the groups wasn't activating jump pads for my alliance, so there were a few close calls there as well.

After all that, a healer from alliance A pulled the final boss early, and led some of the Feint Particle Beams into others as a sort of revenge trolling. The entire time, the original troll tank from B was constantly being a nuisance in the chat.

We ended up having multiple wipes before finally completing the raid, but I'm honestly shocked we even finished at all. Really thought a couple of the vote abandons would have gotten through.

[Tridus]

When I heal... I get annoyed when Paladins and Red Mages keep healing themselves when their health gets lowered to 70%. Stop wasting your GCDs and Dual Casts... I got this...

Does it make more sense for you to cast Cure 2 and me to cast Total Eclipse, or for me to cast Clemency and you to cast Holy?

If your goal is to do the run as fast as possible, it's the second one. There's times when those spells make sense to use and aren't meant to be insulting.

[Tamlen]

Got into a titan duty finder roulette on an alt to finish daily roulettes. Awesome, one of the easiest trials. Nope. Had a warrior who instantly pulled without tank stance, but okay I figure, honest mistake. Titan runs after other party members, so I switch to tank stance and pull it off. A minute or two later he switches to defiance and still can't pull it off, then I guess gets mad and types rude passive-aggressive messages in chat about not being allowed to main tank. Then pulls titan with taunt, so I drop stance and let him tank, then he shirks last minute to let me die while the healers happily oblige to let it happen. Then he leaves but not before leaving a childish insult message. Check afterward and him and healers are all from the same server. Go figure.
I know there are bound to be rude players in every game, but what a petty thing to be so absolutely vile about.

[Skyward]

Pool of Tribute normal.

Wiped at 1%.

Don't think I really need to say more, do I?