Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ilenya]

I think SMN's Ifrit has something like that too?

Just as a note, that skill has TERRIBLE scaling, or something else going on, because I had it reflecting 80-ish damage on a crit.

[Xx-ReiN-xX]

The required DPS is the max DPS you need to reach to down the encounter to 0% within the given time. If you have seconds to spare after killing it, it means that your DPS was higher than the minium requirement.

I gauge for sigmascape normal and got 40 sec to spare and got 5491.91 DPS. So yeah... that tank was just full of it.
Thank you.

[Khiinroye]

So yesterday I went into Dun Scaith on rdm. It was a pretty uneventful run, except for something I saw on the first boss. I didn't want to run all over for the knockbacks and drawins, so I was making use of our good buddy Surecast. And then, on knockback after the second Blizzard 4, while I'm standing well away from the ice block, I pop Surecast again and see floating by on the screen...

Rescue
Missed

I actually didn't know that Surecast blocks Rescue as well.

[Nestama]

Yeah, it kind of does, but it doesn't bounce your flare back in your face. Although, we can also say that Vengeance from WAR is kind of a damage reflect skill. I think SMN's Ifrit has something like that too?

Maybe not the animation (it should), but I'm pretty sure it does throw the exact damage back at you.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

i'll give it go. thanks

Edit:so i've picked byakko ex, went to website stated above and got 5277.73 DPS. good?
Edit 2: tried a second time and noticed the Required dps ( in this case Byakko Ex 4691.32 ) still got the same result. guess im over thinking it. :/

5277 is pretty decent, considering that you're also not benefitting from extra chakra stacks from party members during brotherhood & raid buffs like Trick attack/AST cards/Chain strategem on a dummy, don't feel too worried about what the tank said, he just fails to take into account how powerful diversion is and why gauging dps based on their enmity rarely works nowadays.

and trust me; tanks who love to do dps and stance dance will thank you for using diversion

[Alaray]

got out from o6n as mnk for last day loot (thank god i won), but apparently my dps is terrible and didn't deserved the loot. that tank kept sniping me for having low enmity despite my higher ilvl than the rest of the group. (iwas ilvl 353 and 4th and 5th using diversion on cd). i kept quiet and keep doing what im doing. at the end one member of the group point out diversion and the tank respond with how it's useless because he would never lose aggro. another point out because he's a "sub par shield oath" tank. got some "LOL" as respond from others. now i'm a little concerned tho. maybe he's right about my dps. i picked mnk as main starting 4.1 and never bothered reading a guide. my only dps gauge is SSS dummy. im not a raider but what's you guys do to gauge/improve dps without parser?

To be honest, after everything after this, you're in the right.

If a tank is claiming "You can do anything and I'll hold aggro" they're a bad tank and are shooting themselves in the foot because, odds are, they're camping tank stance the entire time and using enmity combos like they're going out of style. Which means, they're doing piddly crap for damage contribution and extending the duration of the encounter as a result. (They are, likely, losing around 1k damage per second. That's a LOT). It took me a bit of time to actually realize this, but if someone is going to harp on your damage when they're likely pulling closer to 1000 damage... they can really just stick it where the sun don't shine.

To put it into context, I use one enmity combo in an encounter and I fully expect DPS players to make use of diversion, lucid and the off tank present to provoke and shirk. If there's a Ninja, I expect shadewalker. (I keep my eye on enmity regardless and if I know none are using their enmity dumps, one or two more enmity combos over the course of the encounter tends to be more than plenty not to lose the boss at any point -- and this is without dipping back into a tank stance unless things are hitting the fan and I need to let the healers try to recover things -- I will say it sucks to do enmity combos as a DRK and PLD, it's a big hit to the damage output especially on a Dark Knight, which is why enmity is overall a team concern so that the rDPS can be higher to get through the encounter faster).

The flip side is, as a DPS who pulls less damage than you do, I forget Diversion and I'll get killed for it (but that's my fault, not anyone else's lol).

As an unrelated and on-topic note, I'm not salty or anything about this Kefka (Normal) run I did, but boy, it did feel quite good to be in second damage on the team as a Dark Knight.

[jellopy]

Decided to dust off my PLD and do a levelling roulette and got Sirensong (lv 61 dungeon).

Got an AST, SMN, and RDM.

Within two pulls I noticed things were dying very slowly. After the first boss I just couldn’t stand it and said nicely, “Maybe you guys should check your tooltips and rotations.” At this point the RDM seemed slightly offended so I keep quiet and go on to 2nd boss where the SMN repeatedly gets 4-5 stacks of vuln from the shadows. I must’ve saved him like 5 times with Intervention.

I do the big pull after that boss and literally ran outta TP so I say something about the dps to which the RDM says, “I know my rotation just fine thank you. Besides I was 2nd on enmity list and my aggro bar was 2/3 full just now.”

To which I respond, “Cuz I was in dps stance to speed things up...”

I honestly tried to help...Hope you guys get better.

[VanilleFang]

“I know my rotation just fine thank you."

RDM AoE rotation is basically just Scatter spam so...

[jellopy]

This is lv 61+.... if you’re just spamming scatter for aoe, you might need to go check your tooltips and rotation as well.

[NephthysVasudan]

This is lv 61+.... if you’re just spamming scatter for aoe, you might need to go check your tooltips and rotation as well.

Actually..she's right... Scatter for mobs.....jolt/impact + spell for single targets. Mix in some the melee ranged spells as well.
Otherwise you run the risk of peeling aggro.
Check your own facts.