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    ChameleonMS's Avatar
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    Jordan O'niell
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by mahariel View Post
    There's no Bio or Miasma DOTs of any sort on the mobs... and as I look at the SMN, they're just spamming Ruin II. It was their first time in Shisui so I guess they were fairly new, but how do you get to level 63 without learning to apply your DOTs? They did start using them a bit more often after I told them that they wanted to keep them up as often as possible, but it was still really strange...
    Welcome to the joys of the Jump Potion life.
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    Welcome to the joys of the Jump Potion life.
    Not always the case, seen people with mulitply 70's and also played for years doing the same thing.
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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Jubii Io
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Got Castrum Abania in a leveling roulette today and it felt so slow. I was tanking. I had a Monk who kept pushing adds away from me, a White Mage who didn't want to wait for everyone to catch up so we could DPS the the containers holding the Hypertuned adds TOGETHER, and a Bard in lvl 60 gear.

    I rode it out and we finished with the timer somewhere in the 54:00 minute. I won't lie and say it was the worst run I ever had, but It's been a while since I had an annoying one.
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Wow, I did leveling roulette on tank and got one of the most stuck up healers you could ever get.

    So the barrier goes down in aery and the healer stands around for a solid 10+ seconds. I am still waiting for protect. Fairy still isn't out yet (SCH). So I ask: Protect? And a few seconds later: Fairy?. They respond saying "Their bar is messed up" to paraphrase it, profanity was used.

    Protect WAS used and we got underway but I did single pulls noticing something was wrong. They werent healing me, at all. This didnt kill me until the pulls after the first boss. I even used hallowed ground. They used physick so I know they can use it on me but they never did. Once I die they then use it on the dps monks. I say thusly:

    (Me) Some heals would be nice
    (Ultros SCH) why when you sassed me b****?
    (Me) Sassed? Expecting basic role functions is sassing?

    So let me get this straight... Asking for protect and for their fairy is basically giving them a hard time? Expecting a healer to heal is sassing? Are people honestly this stu... oh forget it the answer is yes otherwise it wouldn't happen. Fastest penalty I ever took.
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Wow, I did leveling roulette on tank and got one of the most stuck up healers you could ever get.

    So the barrier goes down in aery and the healer stands around for a solid 10+ seconds. I am still waiting for protect. Fairy still isn't out yet (SCH). So I ask: Protect? And a few seconds later: Fairy?. They respond saying "Their bar is messed up" to paraphrase it, profanity was used.

    Protect WAS used and we got underway but I didsingle pulls noticing something was wrong. They werent healing me, at all. This didnt kill me until the pulls after the first boss. I even used hallowed ground. They used physick so I know they can use it on me but they never did. Once I die they then use it on the dps monks. I say thusly:

    (Me) Some heals would be nice
    (Ultros SCH) why when you sassed me b****?
    (Me) Sassed? Expecting basic role functions is sassing?

    So let me get this straight... Asking for protect and for their fairy is basically giving them a hard time? Expecting a healer to heal is sassing? Are people honestly this stu... oh forget it the answer is yes otherwise it wouldn't happen. Fastest penalty I ever took.
    Why would you leave? vote kick people like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    On 3 mobs fire 4 is more potency than fire 2 . . .
    I am not sure, I was always told 3 + aoe rotation, regardless that was not the focus of the drama, as I explained the pull after you get the 4 walls they where doing the same thing, and there is around 7? It should also be noted it was very slow and no thunder was used in all 3 cases (first, wall, full pull before boss), 330-340 geared people go faster. Also the BLM did not say anything other then something completely not relating to the situation, so it was assumed trolling.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 04-20-2018 at 08:20 AM.

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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I am not sure, I was always told 3 + aoe rotation, regardless that was not the focus of the drama, as I explained the pull after you get the 4 walls they where doing the same thing, and there is around 7? It should also be noted it was very slow and no thunder was used in all 3 cases (first, wall, full pull before boss), 330-340 geared people go faster. Also the BLM did not say anything other then something completely not relating to the situation, so it was assumed trolling.
    The potency nerf to fire 2 messed with the perception of aoe for some BLMs, and did actually change the math a little. I would still tell anyone learning the class to aoe at 3 mobs, and st at 2(with exceptions possible in both cases). The correct aoe rotation(s) at 70 isnt just F2 spam. Actually, according to the math guys with just 3 targets you should be skipping F2s and only doing Flares. Something like B3 T4 B4 F3 Flare Flare(repeat from T4, add Fouls and procs where they wont mess up a timer). Youre taking advantage of the umbral heart mechanic to get 2 flares per mana bar with as few extra actions as possible and cycling through as quickly as possible(flare being roughly 1200 potency with 3 targets). They disagree(last i checked) on the exact number of mobs where adding in 2 F2s before the Flares is an advantage(its more then 3, less then 6 as i recall). Personally, i try to do the F2s anyway. Not because i think its the stone-cold best PPS i can manage. I do it for the psychology of the group. The others will feel better about big pulls seeing all those explosions. It also makes me look more active, as the short version has more waiting on mana tics.

    Advanced aoe thoughts aside, yeah this guy was either trolling or lazy enough as to being almost carried. Not a good look.
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Assuming it would go through. I tend to have bad luck with pugs a lot of the time and one of the monks was also on their server.
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Assuming it would go through. I tend to have bad luck with pugs a lot of the time and one of the monks was also on their server.
    Doesn't hurt to try. If it fails then you can just leave like you would have before, and nothing was lost.
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Doesn't hurt to try. If it fails then you can just leave like you would have before, and nothing was lost.
    Second this, don't be scared to speak up or attempt to take action.
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    Koh'a Ganajai
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Assuming it would go through. I tend to have bad luck with pugs a lot of the time and one of the monks was also on their server.
    Look at it this way, the vote kick fails you can still leave. You have nothing to lose by trying.
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